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Real talk: we need to stop nerfing everything

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MrIronGolem27
Profile Joined July 2020
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-31 21:56:11
October 31 2024 21:48 GMT
#1
Over the last few years, we have seen nerfs to a lot of units:

- Liberators
- DTs
- Void Rays
- Queens
- Lurkers
- Brood Lords
- Ghosts
- Disruptors
- Widow Mines
- etc.

We decided at one point that they were broken, and we did away with them. We've nerfed all the OP shit and we're running out of stuff to nerf. Instead of creating counterplay for broken builds, we just got rid of them outright.

Nothing is fun. There's nothing to convince people to stick around for a patch that is gonna play the exact same as a year or two ago but now everybody has worse tools.

SC2 is still imbalanced.

What are we going to do about this?
HyperONE - StarCraft Evolution League organizer, SC: Evo Complete developer, mapmaker (author of Magannatha, TLMC19 2nd place, TLMC17 3rd+5th place), Liquipedia editor
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
November 01 2024 05:27 GMT
#2
Literally none of those units are fun lol
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation398 Posts
November 01 2024 05:40 GMT
#3
It may be fun steamrolling with OP units, but it's frustrating being on the other side.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15995 Posts
November 01 2024 19:15 GMT
#4
I mean, I get where you're coming from as since the balance council took over the default response to a perceived problem is to simply nerf it, whereas actual interesting changes or new solutions have become much rarer. On the other hand, if one unit is nerfed it's technically a buff to every unit that is interacting with it so other units are are still 'buffed' in that sense.
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Yasir5588
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November 04 2024 07:23 GMT
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1806 Posts
August 11 2025 09:47 GMT
#8
what an ironic post a bot bumped, but I actually agree with this, and it echoes the sentiment PiG was expressing with bringing back each races "fun toys."
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1296 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 10:41:48
August 11 2025 10:40 GMT
#9
On August 11 2025 18:47 CicadaSC wrote:
what an ironic post a bot bumped, but I actually agree with this, and it echoes the sentiment PiG was expressing with bringing back each races "fun toys."

I was going to respond, but then I realised that Tempest already wrote a perfect response 10 months ago:

On November 01 2024 14:27 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Literally none of those units are fun lol
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
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