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On January 22 2015 08:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote:On January 22 2015 07:39 Breshke wrote: Already am LS!
Hahaha true, still that wasnt entirely your fault we shouldn't have lynched you.
LS have you looked much at trfels filter our insight would be fairly useful as you are basically confirmed. He "Scumread" LoneMeow and GlowingBear had his vote on them until the WarWaffle wagon happened at Day 1. I think it could of been a potential bus on to LoneMeow by him to get some town cred and tried to bus him at today before we lynched him. We know that GlowingBear was Town by his flip so he wasn't busing a scum there but ironically GlowingBear called him out at Day 1 after he had reread Tfrel's filter. He said to lynch LoneMEow after lynching me which could be him trying to bus LoneMeow again. I think we should look into LoneMeow being our best suspect for our Day 3 lynch of scum. If you like this line of thinking then go find reasons for Alan being mafia. I will as soon as I get back home from playing Pokemon/Smash with some friends I will put together why I think LoneMeow might be scum (9:15 pm CST is when I get back home).
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And the wicked old witch at last is dead! lol
Nice job, LS.
Seriously, though, I'm always happier to see players playing poorly flip scum. Would've been sad to lynch Trfel if he really was town trying to change his play-style.
Geript, Alan is lonemeow? <- The newbies will have no clue who you're talking about if you refer to people by name.
I'll be in-thread for questions or if anyone has any ideas they want to bounce around.
(Can already say that there are at least 4-5 posts of geript's that I'll need clarification on. Not sure why, geript, but sometimes I can't follow your train of thought when you post. Something to do with the writing style.)
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God I hate days like yesterday
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Yah, they're pretty awful all around.
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On January 22 2015 07:32 Breshke wrote:So its true that i havn't properly analysed the shining but not from lack of trying. I actually find his filter hard to read and i don't actually know why. I do think his interaction with GB was townie though wanting his question answered as pushing it because it shows to me he wanted information. So i actually have him as a town lean. This leads me to think my PoE was shiter than i thought it was. Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. LM could you explain the bolded to me?
I know you said you don't know exactly why his filter/posts are hard to read, but could you try to put it into words for me, Bresh? I ask because for whatever reason he keeps...slipping my notice. If that makes any sense. Usually something stands out to me, and I'll engage with that person, but by and large Shining has not engendered that response.
Maybe if you can articulate it I can figure out why that keeps happening lol.
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On January 22 2015 09:54 DarthPunk wrote: God I hate days like yesterday
Eh, I was lazy :/ I'll admit. Have you had a chance to go back through the game, bring anything new to the table?
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On January 22 2015 10:05 geript wrote: Yah, they're pretty awful all around.
Mind walking me through your thought process EoD Day 1?
You said you didn't see GB/JJB/LM as a scum team, then dropped all of them and pursued WW. I'm curious what in particular brought him to mind. You seemed pretty sold on it at the time.
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I've literally covered that. I started not liking a GB lynch so I was looking for who the prefered lynch was. So I read a bunch of filters to see who I thought could be town or not. WW stuck out to me as odd and likely mafia.
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On January 22 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 07:32 Breshke wrote:So its true that i havn't properly analysed the shining but not from lack of trying. I actually find his filter hard to read and i don't actually know why. I do think his interaction with GB was townie though wanting his question answered as pushing it because it shows to me he wanted information. So i actually have him as a town lean. This leads me to think my PoE was shiter than i thought it was. On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. LM could you explain the bolded to me? I know you said you don't know exactly why his filter/posts are hard to read, but could you try to put it into words for me, Bresh? I ask because for whatever reason he keeps...slipping my notice. If that makes any sense. Usually something stands out to me, and I'll engage with that person, but by and large Shining has not engendered that response. Maybe if you can articulate it I can figure out why that keeps happening lol.
ehh, the posts feel kind of robotic too me but thats not alignment indicative. I also think more words are used than are encessary if that makes sense like I believe he could be more to the point as well. I also find that he says a lot of "good" things but nothing really controversial (this is the hardest bit for me to explain.) Like i dont think he has been trying to work out allighments. LM has been one of his top scums and he really hasn't pushed or suspected anyone else except for GB at some point. He even admits he hasn't really looked through LM's filter. I don't know if this is scummy or lazy town though because i did really like his interaction with GB.
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On January 22 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:Eh, I was lazy :/ I'll admit. Have you had a chance to go back through the game, bring anything new to the table?
Nah. I am playing league with some mafia people right now Probably after that.
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On January 22 2015 10:35 geript wrote: I've literally covered that. I started not liking a GB lynch so I was looking for who the prefered lynch was. So I read a bunch of filters to see who I thought could be town or not. WW stuck out to me as odd and likely mafia.
Half-covered it, to be honest.
Who else did you read? Like, it's obvious you got cold feet on GB and you didn't think the remaining were a scum team...just not sure how you got from that to WW specifically. The static reads thing makes sense, but his reads weren't amazing last game, either. The curse of the newbie ^^
Did it have something to do with Trfel's post on WW that had you reading Trfel as possibly town?
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Like my bottom 5 or so, reread GB to be sure, skimmed LM, Shining thought he was kinda town, Breshke to be sure, WW. Maybe 1-2 more. I forget. Felt like I read 6 filters I think.
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On January 22 2015 10:36 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:On January 22 2015 07:32 Breshke wrote:So its true that i havn't properly analysed the shining but not from lack of trying. I actually find his filter hard to read and i don't actually know why. I do think his interaction with GB was townie though wanting his question answered as pushing it because it shows to me he wanted information. So i actually have him as a town lean. This leads me to think my PoE was shiter than i thought it was. On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. LM could you explain the bolded to me? I know you said you don't know exactly why his filter/posts are hard to read, but could you try to put it into words for me, Bresh? I ask because for whatever reason he keeps...slipping my notice. If that makes any sense. Usually something stands out to me, and I'll engage with that person, but by and large Shining has not engendered that response. Maybe if you can articulate it I can figure out why that keeps happening lol. ehh, the posts feel kind of robotic too me but thats not alignment indicative. I also think more words are used than are encessary if that makes sense like I believe he could be more to the point as well. I also find that he says a lot of "good" things but nothing really controversial (this is the hardest bit for me to explain.) Like i dont think he has been trying to work out allighments. LM has been one of his top scums and he really hasn't pushed or suspected anyone else except for GB at some point. He even admits he hasn't really looked through LM's filter. I don't know if this is scummy or lazy town though because i did really like his interaction with GB.
Hm. Thanks. The nothing really controversial bit makes sense...though I have to take another look to see if I agree with that or not.
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On January 22 2015 11:03 geript wrote: Like my bottom 5 or so, reread GB to be sure, skimmed LM, Shining thought he was kinda town, Breshke to be sure, WW. Maybe 1-2 more. I forget. Felt like I read 6 filters I think.
Okay, fair enough. Damdred you weren't liking earlier. Can you tell me where you stand now?
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In day one I really didn't care if I got lynched or not, at that point I thought GB was town. And at that point it was either gb or me and GB had been playing better due to putting in work than me obviously.
I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch.
Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out.
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On January 22 2015 11:15 Damdred wrote: In day one I really didn't care if I got lynched or not, at that point I thought GB was town. And at that point it was either gb or me and GB had been playing better due to putting in work than me obviously.
I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch.
Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out.
Lol, Damdy, you were a bit quick on that one, weren'tcha? I wasn't asking you why geript didn't like you...or what you had to say for yourself xP
And...what did you figure out? No offense, but I don't think an LM read is particularly earth-shattering then or now.
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On January 22 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 11:15 Damdred wrote: In day one I really didn't care if I got lynched or not, at that point I thought GB was town. And at that point it was either gb or me and GB had been playing better due to putting in work than me obviously.
I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch.
Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out. Lol, Damdy, you were a bit quick on that one, weren'tcha? I wasn't asking you why geript didn't like you...or what you had to say for yourself xP And...what did you figure out? No offense, but I don't think an LM read is particularly earth-shattering then or now.
Geript asked me a page ago what I was doing in day one.
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On January 22 2015 11:15 Damdred wrote: In day one I really didn't care if I got lynched or not, at that point I thought GB was town. And at that point it was either gb or me and GB had been playing better due to putting in work than me obviously.
I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch.
Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out.
Okie doke (you're right, sorry, I'm doing three things at once right now)...so...I guess I don't get how you can go from at least partially scumreading him for being "boring" enough to be okay with a Day 1 lynch to saying he's putting in enough more work than you that you'd rather yourself be lynched over him? You were that certain he was town at that point?
I do remember you arguing a lot that he was, but it seems like a very sudden shift.
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Just how GB pushed and formatted his case made him town
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