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On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on. On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense. The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered. The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?
What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.
At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.
On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice? I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated. I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion. I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol. Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why. I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh. Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today. Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons. I need to reread Damdred and geript.
On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM? Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?
Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?
On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.
Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript
Town lean
The shining
Null
Damdred
DP
Scum
LM
Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 19 2015 06:38 Damdred wrote:
All a sudden GB realizes the truth. On January 19 2015 06:40 Damdred wrote:
You guys should trust in ny read that GB is town On January 19 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote:
GB get me out instead save yourself here. On January 19 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
This is great shining says damdred and lm are lynched. Votes GB. Pure Scum On January 19 2015 06:45 Damdred wrote:
There's probably two Scum on GB wagon at this point
In the spoiler is a part of the thread where i started reading damdred really town. Like it was fairly obvious GB was town there and these reactions seem so towny to me. In retrospect after realizing damdred wasn't in that much danger of being lynched I remember the vibe i was getting in the thread was that it WAS going to be one of GB or damdred. Basically damdred is in my null now because even if at the time i thought he was going to be lynched it wasn't actually true so it isn't enough anymore.
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Because as town it never makes sense to allow yourself to be lynched over someone who you read as town. Especially when, as I recall, you were reasonably blase about finding a better alternate lynch.
I remember rereading GB yesterday and him having a good point. I don't remember who it was against though.
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Nope nevermind, I remember why I didn't post about it. GB was just not reading/thinking as usual.
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Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow
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Blocked again.
What are the chances that mafia busses LM? I would think they would think they would be pretty high lol
DP have your reads changed at all? Can you pull a LeBron and find our 3rd mafia member for us?
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hmm I can't write. I would think THAT they would be pretty high.
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I think I was in real danger of getting lynched, before GB went towards the don't kill damdred zone, jarjar was going to vote me I believe and rs was thinking about it. Sojust because votes end one way doesn't make it so.
I gotta think But lm should be lynched then IDK gotta decide
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On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea.
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On January 23 2015 08:31 Damdred wrote:
I think I was in real danger of getting lynched, before GB went towards the don't kill damdred zone, jarjar was going to vote me I believe and rs was thinking about it. Sojust because votes end one way doesn't make it so.
I gotta think But lm should be lynched then IDK gotta decide
Yeah i agree with what you are saying but I don't think i should rely on that so much for a town read. What do you think of DP?
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On January 23 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea.
Not really. It's a really good point against LM. It's actually the first point that anyone else has made that I actually like. The real irony of course would be that there were a bunch of terrible reasons that people were suspecting Trfel for and he flipped scum and there's good reasons for lynching LM and he'll of course flip town. It really would be the final "fuck you" playing this game has been so far.
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On January 23 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea.
Why?
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Geript why is what beshke saying so good when it's almost the exact thing that me and rsoultin were saying night 1? Besides the New info
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On January 23 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote:On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea. Why?
I'd rather if people read and make their own opinions and if they end up agreeing with me that's fine.
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On January 17 2015 10:45 Trfel wrote:
There is no voting thread XD someone is really prepared for this game haha
LightningStrike, you played in Carol of the Bells. So did LoneMeow. Any thoughts on him?
Hmm this is the first time Trfel questioned LM. Very early in the game. IF LM is mafia, which I think he is, then Trfel definitely PLANNED to bus LM all along. If you follow his filter, you notice that he loved to townread me too.
I think they were both smart strategies. He busses LM who obviously doesn't have a lot of time to play this game this round and unfortunately drew mafia, and he defends me who obviously was going to get a lot of suspicion in the game (he knew that from our last game). I think they were both smart plays, but he got cop read and he probably could have executed a little better.
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On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.
##vote Lonemeow
lol thinking about it? gb and i were both pushing you bby xP now jjb said he would and shining said he was scumming you, gb and lm...have you bothered to evaluate the vote?
jjb...knowledge nuggets plsthnx
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On January 17 2015 12:00 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 11:50 Trfel wrote:
Ok, I will respond to jarjar's request for a no lynch. No, we will definitely lynch.
No lynch on Day 1 is bad because it usually leaves you in an almost equally uninformed position on Day 2. Eventually you have to make that first lynch. Yes, town is often lynched on Day 1, but you can still lynch scum on Day 1 with effective play (and a bit of luck).
I will keep my vote on geript until I feel that it is better for me to move it. It is really silly to ask me for rules for what I will do with my vote, since it's my own judgement and there is absolutely no reason for me to try and set rules for every possible scenario. Mhm. The question was not what your rules are. The question was do you intend to scumhunt at all? Why is it so difficult for you to answer a simple question? Will you or will you not adhere to policy voting over scumread voting? Since you can't possibly be scumreading geript off of no posting (and have admitted to such) I feel that it's a valid question. I don't understand where you are coming from. Of course I intend to scumhunt. Why do you ask a question which has only one answer?
I remember him getting a lot of towncred for this statement. I still didn't get why. I knew GB was one of the guys who towncredded him. Was the other geript? I don't see how town and mafia could respond differently to this.
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This is about Trfel voting Geript at the beginning.
Do you guys think that Trfel would try to bus BOTH of his mafia bro's? I would definitely hope not. Especially right out of the gate. I could see him bussing one and maybe joining a lynchtrain on the other, but trying to kill off both your buddies seems messed up to me.
If geript turns mafia, PLEASE don't let me be mafia with Trfel lol
But anyways, what are your thoughts on this rsoultin? Think that possibly gives any towncred to geript if LM does turn scum? Definitely an if statement lol
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On January 18 2015 06:35 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Trfel, that's a whole lot of words for saying you have a couple of town reads rest null reads but you don't seem to have any scum reads? unless I overlooked it.
Are you scum with no scum reads and not knowing how to go about it? Sorry, you're right, that wasn't clear enough. I try to play with really high standards for scumreading someone. I stated this in my last game if you need me to dig up that quote. I am most suspicious of LoneMeow and a bit suspicious of DarthPunk. At the moment, my lynch list would probably be LoneMeow, then The Shining, then Breshke, then DarthPunk. However, I'm not going to worry about (potentially) policy lynching until the deadline is much closer.
Is it strange that he puts The Shining and Breshke before DarthPunk on his list? His first sentence makes you think he's scumming DarthPunk, then he puts the shining and breske inbetween. Probably nothing, but strange in my mind.
Not the obvious fixation on LoneMeow in his filter.
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On January 23 2015 08:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
This is about Trfel voting Geript at the beginning.
Do you guys think that Trfel would try to bus BOTH of his mafia bro's? I would definitely hope not. Especially right out of the gate. I could see him bussing one and maybe joining a lynchtrain on the other, but trying to kill off both your buddies seems messed up to me.
If geript turns mafia, PLEASE don't let me be mafia with Trfel lol
But anyways, what are your thoughts on this rsoultin? Think that possibly gives any towncred to geript if LM does turn scum? Definitely an if statement lol
Scum is told the setup so they would have known there was two investigative roles so i think it is possible if not likely that scum busses both partners (maybe not the roelblocker) because you would want to distance from your team.
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