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Okay. Parking my vote on the waffle or now. It took prodding to get him to post in the first place...after boldly proclaiming he was getting a ton out of people's wording without any follow-through as ExO pointed out...and then his post was on just one of HTS'. Since then (and that was early in the day) he's done diddly.
I'll be at work most of the rest of the day, but will check back in closer to the lynch and move my vote if Waffle suddenly starts oozing town or one of my other lynchables is one of the main wagons.
Want to give Shining a chance to explain himself.
Gumdrop, I'd also like to see more reads from you as the day progresses, but you've satisfied me enough not to be my lynch. For now. Normally I don't put much stock in reads on demand, but I saw some original thoughts in there, it's Day 1 and you're new.
##WarWaffle <- Just so everyone's clear what they'll find in the voting thread.
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Ok, yet another big assessment post. I've put them in order of type of read, townie through neutral to scum:
ExO_ still posting good analysis. Even though jumping from person to person the analysis is solid and seems to wait for an actual reason to post on someone else before doing it. I said town at the start and I'm still saying it now.
Half the Sky I'd say is probably town at this point. Posted some nice discussion and I really like her last post. Not posting masses but its hard to criticise that when the thread is moving so slowly.
Trfel has very little to go on but I'd probably say null leaning town. The little bit posted so far implies to me town but its a tiny, tiny amount to go off.
Gumdrop null slightly leaning town. Even less to go on than Trfel but the single analysis post so far was ok and was some decent effort, even if I drastically disagree with the analysis of ExO_ who I'm pretty much certain is town right now. The comments about not being sure what to post I somewhat sympathise with (although I'm evidently far more gabby X-D ).
Silverarte I just can't get a good reading on. Null. Only just started making any posts of real substance. I'd hesitate to call a D1 lynch here when there are better potential targets but one to keep an eye on.
Tubesock explicitly asked me for my read of him past couple of posts. Hi. *waves* Not reading as strongly scum anymore so I'm not sure what to do with him. Back to null I guess. Last couple of posts were good. I still severely dislike his opening but has been getting involved recently and although not posting masses the motivation I'm getting is somewhat townie, but playing his cards quite close to his chest. I like that he's trying to force people to say more so we have more to go on.
rsoultin I distrust somewhat but am more or less back to null now. Her early activity was very suspicious in my eyes which pushed torwards town but the more recent stuff like the assessment of The Shining was very convincing. A little more scummy activity would push me back towards scum though.
TheWarWaffle hasn't changed since my last assessment. Leaning scum very strongly for me now. I didn't like his last post, as I stated last time, and literally nothing posted since then. So the grand total of contribution here is accusing HtS on the basis of her opening...which was exactly the same as she opened in a previous game when she was town...and then disappearing. Really, really not looking good in my eyes.
The Shining started off null leaning town for me just because of limited amounts of information and the fact Shine was one of the few who posted some analysis, I didn't read too much into it until rsoultin pointed it out to be honest since it was just one post. Since rsoultin assessed that post I'm now leaning scum. The worst part for me is the whole "they read me as scum so I read THEM as scum" thing. It looks like just trying to deflect people's attention onto other people. Is also laying it on ExO_ who has been, all along, my strongest town read. Could definitely be convinced for a D2 lynch here.
jarjarbinks I've got a very strong feeling is scum based off the posts made. First couple were a bunch of nothing. Then comes in and posts what I assessed the other page as incredibly scummy to me. Next up is a piggyback read that just reinforces someone else's view. Only real thing of substance has been that most recent post to ask what people think about me and has made no real attempt to answer my analysis of the earlier post or indeed change approach at all. Isn't making an attempt to scumhunt, isn't really contributing beyond echoing other people. If jarjar is town its the scummiest acting townie I've seen in any of the games I've looked at.
LightningStrike is still my number one D1 lynch. Sorry.  I still feel bad about it because <3 LS. But still...ExO_'s analysis there was pretty damning in my eyes and the last few pages, although they've been increasingly implicating The Shining as well, hasn't really convinced me that LS is town. The early stuff was scummy, saying nothing and dancing around a "be nice to everyone and forget about me" thing. When called out on it posted a big analysis post that said very little of substance and lacked firmness. Contributing analysis for the sake of contributing analysis whilst trying to keep most of the other players happy and looking in another direction. Making excuses about "my scum hunting is bad day 1" (doesn't mean you shouldn't try, even if its difficult) and is now starting towards the Shining bandwagon that rsoultin is starting on. Not that I think its wrong but frankly its very easy to put in a "maybe you're right" to set up to bus The Shining if it looks like that actually gets started. Scum. Still <3 though.
There we go. So...I guess for now...
##Vote: LightningStrike
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EBWOP:
##Vote: LightningStrike
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On January 06 2015 23:19 rsoultin wrote:
Okay. Parking my vote on the waffle or now. It took prodding to get him to post in the first place...after boldly proclaiming he was getting a ton out of people's wording without any follow-through as ExO pointed out...and then his post was on just one of HTS'. Since then (and that was early in the day) he's done diddly.
I tend to agree with this assessment to be honest. I had WW down as leaning scum right from his early attempt at analysis but its just gotten drastically worse since then.
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Good morning guys I just woke up. After reading the game that JarJar linked me Shining is just as lurky this game as in that game but that game in general was inactive so hard to say if it's meta or not.
@Silverarte if you were Chaotic Neutral I would of had to policy lynch you but you aren't Chaotic Neutral.
Also I finding it funny you guys were going for one of my possible lynches for today in Gumdrop.
Also TheWarWaffle haven't done stuff since his two or 3 posts after proclaiming he found something in the Mafia XXX Guide on how to improve but one of his post gave his read on HTS although his breaking down on the opost by HTS was a little bit over analyzed and it seems odd for scum to do but he not posted at all after that.
@-Celestial- may I suggest you look at my past games as town because my is pretty the same way I play town I will give you links to my past town games if you want to look into my past town games.
Also since ExO and -Celestial- still think I'm scum but I think their inexperience with playing with me seems to show here but I will claim if I have to.
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Oh, also I'd appreciate anyone's assessments of Silverarte. I really just cannot place her at all.
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your Country52796 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count
jarjarbinks (0): ExO_
LightningStrike (2): ExO_, -Celestial-
Gumdrop (1): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (1): rsoultin
Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. until deadline.
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But for now I will vote foir TheWarWaffle since he looks the worst out of all of the lurkers in this game due to my last post.
##Vote: TheWarWaffle
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If you want to provide some defence evidence then please do. I'm just really not liking the posting here to be honest.
Also the quality of metareads is something of an unknown quantity anyway. But I'm willing to take a look a little later I guess (busy right now, that last post took ages).
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Alright! So no real chance to be able to vote after I head to work....so...here goes. (I'll throw questions at everyone after work)
@LS My personal personality alignment just isn't Chaotic enough!
ExO, I'm still curious on but I'm aware I'm in here too early to get the responses to my questions. I'm not voting you because you've had some great posts so far and I look forward to more.
Rereading everything so far (in what I missed and what's been said), Gumdrop did step up to give an explanation of his (or her!) thoughts at this point. I'm still suspicious because of how long it took, but honestly, you're as new as me so I totally get it. (Til next round. >D)
As far as my vote, rereading (and being convinced by several other player points), my vote is going to Waffle. I doublechecked the posts to validate what was being said, and it's true that there is a lot of lurking going on with only substance in the beginning given after prodding.
##Vote: TheWarWaffle
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On January 06 2015 13:37 Tubesock wrote:
I'd vote Gumdrop too, but I'm hoping he drops some knowledge on us real soon.
I'm starting to have more of an issue with people who scum some people for inactivity, or talking about future inactivity but not the ones who are actually inactive.
I'm not willing to vote ExO yet (sorry about misspelling your name 1000 times earlier) because even while I disagree with his tactics and whatnot, I think his motivation is town.
Maybe you don't have too much of an issue of scumming inactives after all since you voted gumdrop before he made a real post?
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ok, to work with me I go. Back in hopefully ten hours.
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On January 06 2015 23:53 Silverarte wrote:
ok, to work with me I go. Back in hopefully ten hours.
Stupid time zones. I had a few questions for you regarding your reads, but I'll just leave them for you for when you return.
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Good afternoon everyone! (or morning for those of you who are Stateside)
Caught up on the thread from last night, being 6-8h ahead of most of you, I had to go to bed prematurely.
Shining, one thing I'm not satisfied on and I'd appreciate if you can fill in is the questions you haven't clarified since early D1. This is one of the things I had trouble on with you in addition to the post I had cited, and I don't believe you've answered for that either, from what I can tell. (Operative words in bold.)
On January 05 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.
On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role? Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia. Care to enlighten us?
On January 05 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Shining, I read through Rasputin's filter and I don't see where he's trying to ferret out roles. What bothers me about your post is that you mention "questioning every one of us in the hope of a slip"...and that's what town should be doing. If questioning people gets them to reveal alignment-indicative information, then all the better. Why does this seem to be an issue?
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JarJar, do you have any reads on anyone else? I can tell how you feel about Tubesock given your post on him, but anyone else?
I'm aware your strong suit is analysing the votes, but this occurs (or will occur, in this game) once every 72 hours. And to be honest, we need you helping town more often than once every 72 hours.
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Also I've taken note of the time elapsed since Waffle's last post. Surprised he didn't post at all last night, assuming similar time zones to the US players that were on last night. It appears as if he is trying to cruise through.
Only two posts, the first is not alignment indicative, and the second which I townread him for, was all fine and dandy but as cited by others, jack all since.
Waffle, when you return, can you please provide some reads on others from the content that has transpired?
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Silverarte, I'd like you to clarify something:
On January 06 2015 13:17 Silverarte wrote:
@Warwaffle- Thanks for pointing me at the guide, though I admit, the 'suspicious' intro had me blink a few times. So far though, your analysis has me thinking you as town but I do agree with Celestial. You didn't give us anything of substance.
I want to know why you read Waffle as town when you also agree he didn't give anything of substance? What of the analysis? Or did you change your mind?
On January 06 2015 23:52 Silverarte wrote:
As far as my vote, rereading (and being convinced by several other player points), my vote is going to Waffle. I doublechecked the posts to validate what was being said, and it's true that there is a lot of lurking going on with only substance in the beginning given after prodding.
##Vote: TheWarWaffle
I don't disagree that Waffle is lurking.
But then you said before you didn't give anything of substance and now you are saying substance was given? Can you please elaborate on your thought progression regarding the substance part of your argument?
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HTS What you think of ExO's and -Celestial- case on me?
Also what you think of me and Rsoultin pushing TheWarWaffle?
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On January 06 2015 23:52 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 13:37 Tubesock wrote:
I'd vote Gumdrop too, but I'm hoping he drops some knowledge on us real soon.
I'm starting to have more of an issue with people who scum some people for inactivity, or talking about future inactivity but not the ones who are actually inactive.
I'm not willing to vote ExO yet (sorry about misspelling your name 1000 times earlier) because even while I disagree with his tactics and whatnot, I think his motivation is town. Maybe you don't have too much of an issue of scumming inactives after all since you voted gumdrop before he made a real post?
I'm guessing you think Gumdrop is a policy lynch vote for me? You can't see the difference between his situation and say Trfel or WarWaffles? The answer is on page 15.
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