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On January 06 2015 12:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:Lol @ Tube. You were lynched because I was a dumbass. It really was that simple. I wasn't even scumreading you xP just convinced that Templar was a mislynch. Okay, so while I get why people are scumreading LS, I don't think that him giving reads on demand that are mostly town/null is all that scummy. By itself maybe... But I really like this post of his, that features him asking others for reads and making a point on Trfel's "free" townie points that doesn't feel scum-motivated to me: + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2015 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:I just woke up and Trfel I making one but it might take a few days for approval  I do agree that finding scum in a newbie game is looking at game play alone unless there is players that had played a game or two before this one. Then we can make meta cases but right now I not getting anything on peoples alignment I played with before (HTS, Tfrel, Rsoultin, Tubesock) I don't know why people were nitpicking HTS pronouns though because I think she was just referring to me, Rsoultin and her since we were the only ones at the thread at the time of her post. @Exo can you tell us what you thinking right now and why? @Tfrel you don't give free town cred it's just not good logic there. @Gumdrop Hi welcome to the thread it's a little hard on finding Scum Day 1 but it will get easier. Also can you give us your reads so far on who is town and who is not with explanations please? He also has one of the longer filters. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 02:21 ExO_ wrote:On January 06 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:On January 06 2015 01:37 ExO_ wrote:On January 05 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.
On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role? Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia. Care to enlighten us? Rsoultin needs to post more, but I agree with this exchange in particular. Though I think her initial scum hunting was unlikely to produce anything, its better than not doing anything in the end. Shining looks like scummy with his post and right now looks like a good vig target to me (assuming we have a vig). However her activity has severly dropped off after this exchange. Id really like to see more posts from her. leaning town for now Rsoultin is a guy lol..... Also -Celestial- I did play the SC2 Mafia on Arcade mode too and I also play Town of Salem! Unfortunately TL Mafia and Fourm Mafia in general is quite different then Town of Salem and SC2 Mafia where it's not reliant on role claiming so early and also much faster Days and Nights. Im afraid this isn't true, as I've played video mafia with her just a few days ago. As far I know Rsoultin is a guy but until Rsoultin say he is a guy or girl my view wont change.Also I know we got at least 2 girls playing this game. Also what your thoughts on me? Based on meta (which I know y'all don't like, but others can verify/dispute who have played with him) I don't see LS asking others' for their opinion on him out of the blue as scum. He's not that confident a player. He also has an almost ridiculous tendency to use meta arguments almost exclusively as town, which I see him doing again with his reads on Trfel, HTS and myself. Though at least he's confining it to players he's actually played with this game. Scum or town, I <3 you LS. No offense intended lol. I ,3 you too rsoultin also what is your thought my rather large post earlier?
The one with your explanation of your reads? Mostly just that you don't seem sure about anyone yet and are generally reading those who post a lot as town and those who post little as null. 
I'd like to see more from you. So you don't find any behavior/posts scummy, just inactivity? Gumdrop would be a lurker lynch, I think you'd agree. Unless you're seeing something I'm not?
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On January 06 2015 12:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 12:12 LightningStrike wrote:On January 06 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:Lol @ Tube. You were lynched because I was a dumbass. It really was that simple. I wasn't even scumreading you xP just convinced that Templar was a mislynch. Okay, so while I get why people are scumreading LS, I don't think that him giving reads on demand that are mostly town/null is all that scummy. By itself maybe... But I really like this post of his, that features him asking others for reads and making a point on Trfel's "free" townie points that doesn't feel scum-motivated to me: + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2015 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:I just woke up and Trfel I making one but it might take a few days for approval I do agree that finding scum in a newbie game is looking at game play alone unless there is players that had played a game or two before this one. Then we can make meta cases but right now I not getting anything on peoples alignment I played with before (HTS, Tfrel, Rsoultin, Tubesock) I don't know why people were nitpicking HTS pronouns though because I think she was just referring to me, Rsoultin and her since we were the only ones at the thread at the time of her post. @Exo can you tell us what you thinking right now and why? @Tfrel you don't give free town cred it's just not good logic there. @Gumdrop Hi welcome to the thread it's a little hard on finding Scum Day 1 but it will get easier. Also can you give us your reads so far on who is town and who is not with explanations please? He also has one of the longer filters. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 02:21 ExO_ wrote:On January 06 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:On January 06 2015 01:37 ExO_ wrote:On January 05 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.
On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role? Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia. Care to enlighten us? Rsoultin needs to post more, but I agree with this exchange in particular. Though I think her initial scum hunting was unlikely to produce anything, its better than not doing anything in the end. Shining looks like scummy with his post and right now looks like a good vig target to me (assuming we have a vig). However her activity has severly dropped off after this exchange. Id really like to see more posts from her. leaning town for now Rsoultin is a guy lol..... Also -Celestial- I did play the SC2 Mafia on Arcade mode too and I also play Town of Salem! Unfortunately TL Mafia and Fourm Mafia in general is quite different then Town of Salem and SC2 Mafia where it's not reliant on role claiming so early and also much faster Days and Nights. Im afraid this isn't true, as I've played video mafia with her just a few days ago. As far I know Rsoultin is a guy but until Rsoultin say he is a guy or girl my view wont change.Also I know we got at least 2 girls playing this game. Also what your thoughts on me? Based on meta (which I know y'all don't like, but others can verify/dispute who have played with him) I don't see LS asking others' for their opinion on him out of the blue as scum. He's not that confident a player. He also has an almost ridiculous tendency to use meta arguments almost exclusively as town, which I see him doing again with his reads on Trfel, HTS and myself. Though at least he's confining it to players he's actually played with this game. Scum or town, I <3 you LS. No offense intended lol. I ,3 you too rsoultin also what is your thought my rather large post earlier? The one with your explanation of your reads? Mostly just that you don't seem sure about anyone yet and are generally reading those who post a lot as town and those who post little as null. I'd like to see more from you. So you don't find any behavior/posts scummy, just inactivity? Gumdrop would be a lurker lynch, I think you'd agree. Unless you're seeing something I'm not?
It's a lurker lynch yes but so were most of my null reads. The ones I read as town they were mainly asking some questions and and doing some pressuring but like half of the players here are inactive so it's hard to tell for me atm
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So, just to clarify, you find none of the active players null or null leaning scum?
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On January 06 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
So, just to clarify, you find none of the active players null or null leaning scum?
Correct. I'm sorry I'm bad this game on my scum hunting hunting on Day 1 but half of the players are inactive it kind of hard to find scum unless they are active :|
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Why not ask questions or discuss someone, Rsoultin posted a case on Shining. What do you think about that?
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On January 06 2015 12:29 Tubesock wrote:
Why not ask questions or discuss someone, Rsoultin posted a case on Shining. What do you think about that?
It's mostly a meta case as far I can read but doesn't help that there was formatting problems in the post so it hard to read but neverless it's a meta case on Shining and I never played with with him before so I don't know if it's normal behavior or not for him.
@Rsoultin can you link me a game he played as scum to reinforce your case on Shining so I can see it please? I think it might help me understand your case on Shining.
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Okay. It annoys me when people are inactive as well. My bias is to ignore inactives, especially if we might have a vig to take care of them, but if I did that in our first game together town would have lost...so...
You mentioned Shining being null, LS. I've already said why I think he's the most likely scum out of the bunch. Do you disagree? See a point that I made that you think is wrong or weak?
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It's actually not meta, LS. It's that there are a lot of words with little content, and Shining's read on ExO seems to misrepresent ExO by claiming that ExO is just jumping from scumread to scumread with no logical line of thought. The only change I saw was switching off JarJar before he returned. Everything else was explained to my satisfaction, at least.
JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you.
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This inactive stuff is pretty annoying.
Silverarte, you said you were here, which was about an hour or so ago...Come chat.
It's amazing some people have 1 page filters. And "big" posters only have 3 and that all counts the pregame.
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On January 06 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
So, just to clarify, you find none of the active players null or null leaning scum? Correct. I'm sorry I'm bad this game on my scum hunting hunting on Day 1 but half of the players are inactive it kind of hard to find scum unless they are active :|
As a player who has been inactive up to this point, I think the inactivity is mostly due to the fact that its hard to make reads right now.
There is no solid information on anything presently. That makes life difficult.
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Well, Gumdrop, that's the nature of Day 1. We're all just spewing at each other to see what we can get out of each other's posts, and most of it probably won't be very strong. But since we have to lynch someone tomorrow...
The best thing you can do to help improve those reads as town is talk and get others to talk to you.
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On January 06 2015 12:38 Gumdrop wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote:On January 06 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
So, just to clarify, you find none of the active players null or null leaning scum? Correct. I'm sorry I'm bad this game on my scum hunting hunting on Day 1 but half of the players are inactive it kind of hard to find scum unless they are active :| As a player who has been inactive up to this point, I think the inactivity is mostly due to the fact that its hard to make reads right now. There is no solid information on anything presently. That makes life difficult.
It certainly does. Let's talk about it.
If you had to lynch someone, who would it be? Also, why?
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After reading your post again on Shining I think Shining might be our best lynch for right now it's seems a little questionable on borrowing other peoples reads but I done that as town myself. Yes it seems like his post on the interaction of you and HTS seems to contradict itself but that alone can't make him be scum which why you brought up his borrowing reads from other people it could be scum behavior or just new player behavior.
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On January 06 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:
It's actually not meta, LS. It's that there are a lot of words with little content, and Shining's read on ExO seems to misrepresent ExO by claiming that ExO is just jumping from scumread to scumread with no logical line of thought. The only change I saw was switching off JarJar before he returned. Everything else was explained to my satisfaction, at least.
JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you.
Okay I thought it was a meta case since JarJar explained it was a meta case from you my bad.
@JarJar can you link me a game where Shining was Mafia please?
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On January 06 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:
It's actually not meta, LS. It's that there are a lot of words with little content, and Shining's read on ExO seems to misrepresent ExO by claiming that ExO is just jumping from scumread to scumread with no logical line of thought. The only change I saw was switching off JarJar before he returned. Everything else was explained to my satisfaction, at least.
JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you.
Here's the link. Much more inactive game than this one I think the total is 17 pages.
I died halfway through the game. I think me rsoultin and shining were in it among others. Very embarrassing ending so it seems lol
https://www.starkingdoms.com/community/discussion/3840/finished-the-werewabbits-rise-again-village-lost-but-shining-and-kenshin-lost-the-mostest-/p16
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I'm having trouble getting over the fact that Shining sheeped ExO and in the next paragraph scumread ExO.
I know I'm a newbie, but I don't think that I would sheep any of my scumreads. A scumread could agree with a read of mine, but uh what world would anyone sheep them?
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On January 06 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Thank you for clearing that up for me, HTS. The main reason I thought you were suspicious was it felt you overlooked it and were more concerned with focusing me. However, ExO saying you're definitely not a Day 1 lynch is something I'll keep in mind going forward...
I need to work on my reading. Do you guys read the bolded as as sheep, or maybe future evidence?
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On January 06 2015 12:50 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:
It's actually not meta, LS. It's that there are a lot of words with little content, and Shining's read on ExO seems to misrepresent ExO by claiming that ExO is just jumping from scumread to scumread with no logical line of thought. The only change I saw was switching off JarJar before he returned. Everything else was explained to my satisfaction, at least.
JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you. Here's the link. Much more inactive game than this one I think the total is 17 pages. I died halfway through the game. I think me rsoultin and shining were in it among others. Very embarrassing ending so it seems lol https://www.starkingdoms.com/community/discussion/3840/finished-the-werewabbits-rise-again-village-lost-but-shining-and-kenshin-lost-the-mostest-/p16
I'll take a look through it and see if the behavior Shining is showing here is similar to his behavior on that game.
I going to bed for now guys and when I wake up I will read the game JarJar linked and also check the thread and see if anything new came up during overnight and tell you my thoughts on them!
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Shh no one will trust me JarJar if they know I habitually screw the game in LYLO as town lol >< Course they already know my reads aren't godly. (This is why I encourage y'all to look at the reasoning and evaluate for yourselves.)
Yes, I lost that game for town woot!
And yes, Tubesock, in that context I would say that Shining appears to be sheeping ExO's read. Maybe we should ask him what he meant.
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On January 06 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:
Shh no one will trust me JarJar if they know I habitually screw the game in LYLO as town lol >< Course they already know my reads aren't godly. (This is why I encourage y'all to look at the reasoning and evaluate for yourselves.)
Yes, I lost that game for town woot!
And yes, Tubesock, in that context I would say that Shining appears to be sheeping ExO's read. Maybe we should ask him what he meant.
That's hilarious. It's also why I was stoked to be lynched Day 3 or whatever it was in Carol.
Are we really the only ones here?
Silverarte...Gumdrop...you guys posted we know you're "here", I promise I won't bite if you come talk and play.
BUELLER?
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