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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 04:10 GMT
#301
Rsoultin, any change to your thoughts on LS?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 06 2015 04:10 GMT
#302
lol what do you guys think about celestial? I think definitely think ExO is good despite him wanting me to be modkilled. I can't get a read on celestial though.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 06 2015 04:14 GMT
#303
Regarding LS, I'm still okay enough with him not to support an LS lynch Day 1. He's been asking questions and trying to get people to give reads.

Regarding celeste...probably not a Day 1 lynch. Seems to be putting in a lot of work if he's scum. I expect him to put in similar amounts of work as the days progress. If he drops off the face of the planet...cause it's hard to sustain analysis like that for long as scum...then I think a lynch may be in order.

Regarding gumdrop...I'm actually getting more okay with a gumdrop lynch. Kinda convenient when he decided to drop in with basically just another excuse not to post. We'll see.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 04:16 GMT
#304
ExO wanted you modkilled? Or you mean vig killed?

I'm leaning town on Celestial so far. His/her posts seem well thought out and investigative. I didn't necessarily agree with the first couple posts but they seemed towny. That could likely be that I think the first half of the day everyone just has their fishing poles out trying to catch something. I did like Celestial's last post. I was hoping he'd come back though and talk more.
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
January 06 2015 04:17 GMT
#305
Alright! Sorry about that everyone. I am here now though. (Eat dinner with the family and all that )

So..time for the nitty gritty (and tracking down the questions I missed). I admit, this is hard because I prefer to make a basis in anything I state. So I'm analyzing things pretty hard. So..here's me giving up on analyzing and tossing up what I have.

I was asked to clarify my suspicions, so here goes.

@HTS - You are right that a lot of us are so new we're shiny and dripping with the paint. As for what I think of what the others posted so far, it's a lot of saying the same thing but in different ways. Perhaps a better answer to you question is going to be in the addresses below. (Why read the same thing over and over in the same post? ) If I don't answer it though, please say so, so I can. Also, I currently am thinking you are town. There have been numerous examples, but your mentions of what you think of everyone's roles lead me to believe positively in that direction so far!
@Rsoultin To be honest? At the risk of losing cool points here, I entirely forget what I was trying to get at. I can backtrack and guess, but I really don't want to lie about anything. Rules and all. That said, for the analysis portion on you? I'm not entirely sure yet. You haven't convinced me either way.
@Jarjar- Sorry you're sick man! That said, the blatant 'I am town', while funny, makes me want to eye you. The ones who are most blatant often seem to me to be the ones to suspect first. Your sarcasm is fantastic, but I agree with HTS. I don't feel like you want to Scum hunt.
@Exo_ : Reading all of your accusations makes you sound pretty angry in general at first, but afterwards you are really strong in clarifying your points. However, you voted so quickly and you implicate almost as much so. What bothers me is that while you do this, you flip around quickly from person to person based sometimes on good solid reasoning, and other times based on 'I don't like this post'. What exactly is it that made you suspicious of LS and JarJar?
@Warwaffle- Thanks for pointing me at the guide, though I admit, the 'suspicious' intro had me blink a few times. So far though, your analysis has me thinking you as town but I do agree with Celestial. You didn't give us anything of substance.
@Trfel I totally agree wih finding a 'how to find scum' guides. That would help put all of us on the right track. Thank you for the analysis on the Mafia XXX thread by the way. I was reading through it. That said....free townie points?

@LS My alignment is Lawful Neutral, clearly. (Ahahaha...haha...ha...D&D references....ok, beat me now). To be honest, I'm leaning towards town for you. I agree with Jarjar's assessment that I felt more that you were trying to include everyone, rather than specifying a side. That said, I did not see any 'scum' reads myself. You've been pretty straight forward that I can see.
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
January 06 2015 04:17 GMT
#306
oh...I missed some of what others said. Backtracking time!
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 04:22 GMT
#307
Thank you Silverarte!! You say this is to clarify your suspiciouns, so does that mean these are your scum reads? Some seem null but wanting more?

Who would you vote right now?
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
January 06 2015 04:27 GMT
#308
So far I like Celestial. He's been constantly in there, thinking what he's saying through and it's pretty straight forward.

@Tubeshock Personally? I'm leaning towards Exo and Gumdrop. Exo is as I said above. Quick to vote, quick to accuse. And Gumdrop hasn't really been 'trying' to contribute and it bothers me a little. As for above? Most are null with slight leans one way or another. D1 is definitely a challenge.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 04:37 GMT
#309
I'd vote Gumdrop too, but I'm hoping he drops some knowledge on us real soon.

I'm starting to have more of an issue with people who scum some people for inactivity, or talking about future inactivity but not the ones who are actually inactive.

I'm not willing to vote ExO yet (sorry about misspelling your name 1000 times earlier) because even while I disagree with his tactics and whatnot, I think his motivation is town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 04:41 GMT
#310
Oh, I do REALLY dislike the bit about ExO telling our Vig what to do. I don't care so much about him thinking/saying there is one, it just really rubs me wrong bossing them around.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 04:52 GMT
#311
-Celestial- you still there?

Am I still your strongest scumread?
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
January 06 2015 05:01 GMT
#312
He has a good motivation ExO does, however, many of the accusations felt angry. That said, posting and offering nothing as Gumdrop is doing...I'm hoping to see more posts. This day one business is really hard to try to scope out anything. I'm looking forward to seeing more in the morning.

For now...to bed with me! I'll duck in before I head to work tomorrow.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 05:05 GMT
#313
On January 06 2015 14:01 Silverarte wrote:
He has a good motivation ExO does, however, many of the accusations felt angry. That said, posting and offering nothing as Gumdrop is doing...I'm hoping to see more posts. This day one business is really hard to try to scope out anything. I'm looking forward to seeing more in the morning.

For now...to bed with me! I'll duck in before I head to work tomorrow.


Agreed.

G'night.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 05:17 GMT
#314
Gumdrop, unless you step up I'm not removing my vote.

##Vote: Gumdrop
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 06 2015 07:33 GMT
#315
On my way to bed and I'm in the process of catching up with everything, I'll elaborate on more first thing in the morning but I had to clarify this. I wasn't sheeping ExO, just shifting my focus from HTS to ExO. I feel that I'm right in my reasoning against him and I was pointing out the possible banding together between him and HTS by him offering a free town read, something he himself said mafia likes to do.

On January 06 2015 12:56 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Thank you for clearing that up for me, HTS. The main reason I thought you were suspicious was it felt you overlooked it and were more concerned with focusing me. However, ExO saying you're definitely not a Day 1 lynch is something I'll keep in mind going forward...



I need to work on my reading. Do you guys read the bolded as as sheep, or maybe future evidence?

Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 08:04 GMT
#316
On January 06 2015 16:33 The Shining wrote:
On my way to bed and I'm in the process of catching up with everything, I'll elaborate on more first thing in the morning but I had to clarify this. I wasn't sheeping ExO, just shifting my focus from HTS to ExO. I feel that I'm right in my reasoning against him and I was pointing out the possible banding together between him and HTS by him offering a free town read, something he himself said mafia likes to do.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:56 Tubesock wrote:
On January 06 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Thank you for clearing that up for me, HTS. The main reason I thought you were suspicious was it felt you overlooked it and were more concerned with focusing me. However, ExO saying you're definitely not a Day 1 lynch is something I'll keep in mind going forward...



I need to work on my reading. Do you guys read the bolded as as sheep, or maybe future evidence?



Please elaborate more in the morning. So, are you towning or scumming HTS?
Gumdrop
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States35 Posts
January 06 2015 08:25 GMT
#317
On January 06 2015 14:17 Tubesock wrote:
Gumdrop, unless you step up I'm not removing my vote.

##Vote: Gumdrop


I understand entirely. In your spot, it seems like the only rational option.

TheShining. I concur with her belief that there's something off with Exo. Refer to post 246 for his reasoning.

While I do agree with him, I can't simply give him a town pass because he built a case that is moderately secure. My verdict on TheShining is that he is probably town, but I don't want to lock him into town right now.

JarJarBlinks. He is the person that I would be the second most likely to bet on right now as far as scum goes. He has posted a moderate amount, but the sum total of his posts doesn't contribute very much. Check out his posts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx?user=jarjarbinks

All of his posts but 2 are fluff posts.

The first non-fluff post spent most of the time supporting a read on TheShining as being scum, probably. The rest of the time was devoted to... adding length? Of course at the top of the same post, he claimed that his reads were bad.

The other post that wasn't fluff was merely crowdsourcing to get a general consensus on Celestial.

TheWarWaffle. Your first reads impressed me, if for no other reason then you were able to drive to the heart of a matter based on only some slips. Thats solid.

I look forward to new posts from you.

Tube. You asked me which player I would lynch. I would lynch Exo_. I don't even care about the vig call, I care more about the fact that TheShining and Exo were on at very similar times when she made her daming post and he didn't respond to her. The post is now buried on the 12th page.

I am signing off for the night.
"Once more unto the breech dear friends, once more!"- Hamlet's King Henry
Gumdrop
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States35 Posts
January 06 2015 08:27 GMT
#318
EBWOP: Her! I wrote that whole thing over the space of an hour or so and completely forgot about getting the gender stuffs right.
"Once more unto the breech dear friends, once more!"- Hamlet's King Henry
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 06 2015 13:29 GMT
#319
On January 06 2015 16:33 The Shining wrote:
On my way to bed and I'm in the process of catching up with everything, I'll elaborate on more first thing in the morning but I had to clarify this. I wasn't sheeping ExO, just shifting my focus from HTS to ExO. I feel that I'm right in my reasoning against him and I was pointing out the possible banding together between him and HTS by him offering a free town read, something he himself said mafia likes to do.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:56 Tubesock wrote:
On January 06 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Thank you for clearing that up for me, HTS. The main reason I thought you were suspicious was it felt you overlooked it and were more concerned with focusing me. However, ExO saying you're definitely not a Day 1 lynch is something I'll keep in mind going forward...



I need to work on my reading. Do you guys read the bolded as as sheep, or maybe future evidence?



So...I know I'm being particular about your wording here, but I can't tell if you're suggesting that ExO is pocketing a town!HTS by giving her a "free town read", or making a pre-flip association between the two, talking about them "banding together"? While I was just prodding and asking people questions, this seems like a major reasoning jump, as there is a big difference in my mind between saying you won't lynch a particular player Day 1 and definitively town-reading them.

Other parts of your case bother me, too. Are you saying that ExO questioning people and changing his votes is scummy? Would it be less scummy if he was only focusing on one person?

Do you have any reads on anyone else? For instance, I probably will not support an ExO lynch today, while I am still very tempted to vote you. Who else would you be willing to lynch?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 06 2015 13:38 GMT
#320
On January 06 2015 13:16 Tubesock wrote:
I did like Celestial's last post. I was hoping he'd come back though and talk more.


Sorry, I had to sleep it was like 3am. Let me read the last couple of pages and I'll post my updated reads.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
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