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On January 07 2015 01:44 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
-Celestial- I noticed you ninja'd voting for JarJar can you explain why you voting for him? I just wondering that's all. I changed my vote as I was writing that last post so I wouldn't forget to change it. Please read. 
EBWOP:
Er...by that I mean "Please read above for my reasoning" not "Please learn to read, fool".
Sorry, I didn't realise it could be interpreted that way until I looked just now. X-D
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On January 07 2015 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
HTS What you think of ExO's and -Celestial- case on me?
Also what you think of me and Rsoultin pushing TheWarWaffle?
LS, grabbing some food, but will answer this question when I return.
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OK apologies for taking so long. This post is super unedited so feel free to ask me questions about me thougts, I have also missed that last page or so writing this.
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Singular posts that are suspicious to me (Ignore my lack of knowledge on the English language if you can!)-
Shining- Based off 1 past game, I could see Shining’s posts on here being similar to when she was mafia last game. Really weak case though, as I’ve only played with Shining once. I could see her defending her way out of my suspicion, since it is a weak case and Shining has prodded several different people as well as defended herself in the past.
Tubesock- If I was a mafia, I would be playing like tubesock. First posts are shallowish, then stepped it up when told to. I haven’t thought his recent posts have been that great, they mostly follow up other’s ideas. It would be posts I could see myself posting if I wanted to post more. Plus he is off Celestial’s scum-list, which does worry me that he will be off other’s as well. A solid defense against my suspicion would be that tubesock is new and is now more confident in posting than he was at the beginning. He has also made analysis, just not at the level as others in my opinion. I don’t think Tubesock would be a smart day 1 lynch because I think we could figure him out later because of the amount of posts he has been posting.
Silverarte- If I had to choose someone who was playing similar to LS that wasn’t LS it would be Silverarte. Silverarte has no relative suspicion in comparison to LS which makes me suspicious!
Gumdrop- Lack of posts. Most people have given him a pass which isn’t good in my opinion. He has gotten some votes though, despite me seeing myself as an easier target than gumdrop. A good defense against my suspicion would be his last post, which I thought was pretty good.
LS- I would file LS as suspicious but someone I would want to not lynch day 1. He has the attention of people, and he posts a lot. I think it should be easier to determine him mafia later on IF he is mafia. I think it would be easier to get backing from others as well based on what I have read on here so far.
Suspicions on collaboration (I think it would be stupid to collaborate as mafia day 1, but what do I know):
Celestial-Exo: Small hints of collaboration. If I was mafia, I think the best person to estabilish my credibility as town would be Celestial. Have generally agreed with all of their posts. Both went after LS.
Rsoultin-Silverarte-LS-me if you would like: Rsoultin generally makes good logical arguments from what I have seen from her and from personal experience. It is very easy to bandwagon her points. Silverarte, LS, and I have all done that already. Silverarte has been on her side since the beginning. You can attribute that to them being friends. LS did bandwagon on Rsoultins ideas, but you could attribute that to LS’s defense. Still worth noting for now.
People I’m generally scared of:
Celestial- Established great credibility day 1. Your writing style is very similar to a very established economist professor’s. If I was good at this game and was mafia, establishing credibility would be a top priority.
Rsoultin- Very good at prodding and generating very logical arguments against people. Which means, if mafia, would be very good at it. Can prod and generate arguments about fallacies in people’s posts remarkably well. If she is mafia, I will have a difficult time reading it and a difficult time trying to convince others of it.
People I think are least scummy:
HTS-Good analysis and limited posts make it hard for me to be suspicious.
Exo- great prodder early day and seems to be flinging scum everywhere. I would try to do this as scum (I think I’d have a better shot at this over establishing credibility lol). I also like that he tried to generate others to talk more (I’m such a hypocrite). Plus, people have been suspicious of him. That makes me a little more at ease about not being suspicious of him just in case he truly is mafia.
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I didn't mention trfel, I have no opinions
He is gone, and will likely try to lynch whoever he feels is contributing the least when he gets back. I have a sinking feeling... lol
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On January 07 2015 01:56 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 01:51 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok I've taken the time myself to read over the evidence that LS presented and...actually its pretty convincing. Although I think meta reads, especially based on just one game, can easily be manipulated he IS playing this very similar to the way he has in the past and it IS from three separate games so...yeah well done there.
I can't in good faith vote LS anymore. His playstyle is just too consistent between townie games there and it has severely shaken my confidence on it. I don't really know playstyles very well of course but those links were fairly convincing. Of course LS could be deliberately selecting evidence but it doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a genuine attempt at convincing. Not a D1 lynch for me anymore.
I'm going to take a chance and remove my vote from there and put it on someone else. Its between WW, Shining and jarjar for me, as per my reads earlier. I agree with Tube, WW isn't the best candidate. His opening post was weak and he's said nothing since then but that isn't enough for me to lynch him at this early stage. I'd like to see more from Shining before I could put a vote down there. So I guess I'm going with jarjar for now since I have to vote for SOMEONE and frankly I really don't like his posting at all, it looks really scummy; was also the second highest read on my list so...
##Unvote
##Vote: jarjarbinks
On January 07 2015 01:18 Tubesock wrote:
-Celestial-
Why is Rsoultin more scummy than Gumdrops, Trfel, Silver, and me? I get why you town ExO so hard, and HTS but not the next 3 on your list? I think I'm still somewhat tainted by rsoultin's original impression on me. I really, really didn't like what appeared to be bluehunting (the reasoning for which I posted a little while back, I can quote it if you like). Though she has improved somewhat since that I'm still wary. Gumdrops I've just flat out not seen enough from to make much of a judgement call. Same with Trfel. But both of them posted something that appeared to be reasonably thought out so slight leanings towards town. Trfel also stated in advance he wouldn't be around for a bit and Gumdrops just seems awkward about posting. I can't condemn either of them to scum for that. Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. You didn't start great which is why I leaned you towards scum, but I didn't find your opening to be as scummy as rsoultins was and you've both improved in my eyes to the point where you're both back to neutral. But since rsoultin started off with slightly more damning posts you're slightly more in the townie direction than she is. Ah, I see our differences. I tend to disregard to some extent a person's first few posts. You appear to keep an even weighting on all of them. I do want to point out that you had 3-4 posts that were just about rsoultin's gender, or SC2 mafia or whatever. If I said them I think you would have scummed me even worse. Yet, I really only had the 1 post you didn't like, and it still pertained to the current game. But anyway, I do think you're town even if we don't agree on your town reads so much although we do agree on the scums. You make a fair point; but in defence of my reads I'm trying to disregard anything that doesn't actually pertain to the game itself (so off topic stuff I don't really look at unless its ALL there is). In your case I posted earlier why I didn't like your opening post and then you disappeared kinda so I didn't have a lot to go on and at that very early point it was very suspicious to me. Since then, of course, you've posted a lot more on-topic stuff which has helped a lot.
This is another area where we differ. I think the off topic stuff is scummy.
On January 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. I don't understand a couple of her reads, her progression on Waffle from a substantive part (the lurking is obvious), and I don't understand why she's scumreading Rasputin or why she isn't answering Rasputin's question, not from what I can tell anyhow. I don't know if it's because she's new or if she has something to hide.
I'm curious how she is going to vote and what reasons she cites (assuming she doesn't ninja).
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jarJar is your list scummiest to least? Also, do you really think my vote on Gumdrops is a policy lynch?
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On January 07 2015 02:04 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 01:56 -Celestial- wrote:On January 07 2015 01:51 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok I've taken the time myself to read over the evidence that LS presented and...actually its pretty convincing. Although I think meta reads, especially based on just one game, can easily be manipulated he IS playing this very similar to the way he has in the past and it IS from three separate games so...yeah well done there.
I can't in good faith vote LS anymore. His playstyle is just too consistent between townie games there and it has severely shaken my confidence on it. I don't really know playstyles very well of course but those links were fairly convincing. Of course LS could be deliberately selecting evidence but it doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a genuine attempt at convincing. Not a D1 lynch for me anymore.
I'm going to take a chance and remove my vote from there and put it on someone else. Its between WW, Shining and jarjar for me, as per my reads earlier. I agree with Tube, WW isn't the best candidate. His opening post was weak and he's said nothing since then but that isn't enough for me to lynch him at this early stage. I'd like to see more from Shining before I could put a vote down there. So I guess I'm going with jarjar for now since I have to vote for SOMEONE and frankly I really don't like his posting at all, it looks really scummy; was also the second highest read on my list so...
##Unvote
##Vote: jarjarbinks
On January 07 2015 01:18 Tubesock wrote:
-Celestial-
Why is Rsoultin more scummy than Gumdrops, Trfel, Silver, and me? I get why you town ExO so hard, and HTS but not the next 3 on your list? I think I'm still somewhat tainted by rsoultin's original impression on me. I really, really didn't like what appeared to be bluehunting (the reasoning for which I posted a little while back, I can quote it if you like). Though she has improved somewhat since that I'm still wary. Gumdrops I've just flat out not seen enough from to make much of a judgement call. Same with Trfel. But both of them posted something that appeared to be reasonably thought out so slight leanings towards town. Trfel also stated in advance he wouldn't be around for a bit and Gumdrops just seems awkward about posting. I can't condemn either of them to scum for that. Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. You didn't start great which is why I leaned you towards scum, but I didn't find your opening to be as scummy as rsoultins was and you've both improved in my eyes to the point where you're both back to neutral. But since rsoultin started off with slightly more damning posts you're slightly more in the townie direction than she is. Ah, I see our differences. I tend to disregard to some extent a person's first few posts. You appear to keep an even weighting on all of them. I do want to point out that you had 3-4 posts that were just about rsoultin's gender, or SC2 mafia or whatever. If I said them I think you would have scummed me even worse. Yet, I really only had the 1 post you didn't like, and it still pertained to the current game. But anyway, I do think you're town even if we don't agree on your town reads so much although we do agree on the scums. You make a fair point; but in defence of my reads I'm trying to disregard anything that doesn't actually pertain to the game itself (so off topic stuff I don't really look at unless its ALL there is). In your case I posted earlier why I didn't like your opening post and then you disappeared kinda so I didn't have a lot to go on and at that very early point it was very suspicious to me. Since then, of course, you've posted a lot more on-topic stuff which has helped a lot. This is another area where we differ. I think the off topic stuff is scummy. Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. I don't understand a couple of her reads, her progression on Waffle from a substantive part (the lurking is obvious), and I don't understand why she's scumreading Rasputin or why she isn't answering Rasputin's question, not from what I can tell anyhow. I don't know if it's because she's new or if she has something to hide. I'm curious how she is going to vote and what reasons she cites (assuming she doesn't ninja).
She didn't ninja vote she posted why she voting for WarWaffle earlier on Page 17 I think the page number was you could look through her filter by clicking a link to her filter at the OP.
Also to be fair about -Celestial-'s off topic stuff someone said he looked like he played a lot of mafia so he responded that he played SC2 Mafia and I kind of brought it off topic to him so my fault there.
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List of Scum:
#1: Shining
#2: Tube
#3: Silver
#4: Waffle
#5: LS
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On January 07 2015 02:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 02:04 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:56 -Celestial- wrote:On January 07 2015 01:51 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok I've taken the time myself to read over the evidence that LS presented and...actually its pretty convincing. Although I think meta reads, especially based on just one game, can easily be manipulated he IS playing this very similar to the way he has in the past and it IS from three separate games so...yeah well done there.
I can't in good faith vote LS anymore. His playstyle is just too consistent between townie games there and it has severely shaken my confidence on it. I don't really know playstyles very well of course but those links were fairly convincing. Of course LS could be deliberately selecting evidence but it doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a genuine attempt at convincing. Not a D1 lynch for me anymore.
I'm going to take a chance and remove my vote from there and put it on someone else. Its between WW, Shining and jarjar for me, as per my reads earlier. I agree with Tube, WW isn't the best candidate. His opening post was weak and he's said nothing since then but that isn't enough for me to lynch him at this early stage. I'd like to see more from Shining before I could put a vote down there. So I guess I'm going with jarjar for now since I have to vote for SOMEONE and frankly I really don't like his posting at all, it looks really scummy; was also the second highest read on my list so...
##Unvote
##Vote: jarjarbinks
On January 07 2015 01:18 Tubesock wrote:
-Celestial-
Why is Rsoultin more scummy than Gumdrops, Trfel, Silver, and me? I get why you town ExO so hard, and HTS but not the next 3 on your list? I think I'm still somewhat tainted by rsoultin's original impression on me. I really, really didn't like what appeared to be bluehunting (the reasoning for which I posted a little while back, I can quote it if you like). Though she has improved somewhat since that I'm still wary. Gumdrops I've just flat out not seen enough from to make much of a judgement call. Same with Trfel. But both of them posted something that appeared to be reasonably thought out so slight leanings towards town. Trfel also stated in advance he wouldn't be around for a bit and Gumdrops just seems awkward about posting. I can't condemn either of them to scum for that. Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. You didn't start great which is why I leaned you towards scum, but I didn't find your opening to be as scummy as rsoultins was and you've both improved in my eyes to the point where you're both back to neutral. But since rsoultin started off with slightly more damning posts you're slightly more in the townie direction than she is. Ah, I see our differences. I tend to disregard to some extent a person's first few posts. You appear to keep an even weighting on all of them. I do want to point out that you had 3-4 posts that were just about rsoultin's gender, or SC2 mafia or whatever. If I said them I think you would have scummed me even worse. Yet, I really only had the 1 post you didn't like, and it still pertained to the current game. But anyway, I do think you're town even if we don't agree on your town reads so much although we do agree on the scums. You make a fair point; but in defence of my reads I'm trying to disregard anything that doesn't actually pertain to the game itself (so off topic stuff I don't really look at unless its ALL there is). In your case I posted earlier why I didn't like your opening post and then you disappeared kinda so I didn't have a lot to go on and at that very early point it was very suspicious to me. Since then, of course, you've posted a lot more on-topic stuff which has helped a lot. This is another area where we differ. I think the off topic stuff is scummy. On January 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. I don't understand a couple of her reads, her progression on Waffle from a substantive part (the lurking is obvious), and I don't understand why she's scumreading Rasputin or why she isn't answering Rasputin's question, not from what I can tell anyhow. I don't know if it's because she's new or if she has something to hide. I'm curious how she is going to vote and what reasons she cites (assuming she doesn't ninja). She didn't ninja vote she posted why she voting for WarWaffle earlier on Page 17 I think the page number was you could look through her filter by clicking a link to her filter at the OP. Also to be fair about -Celestial-'s off topic stuff someone said he looked like he played a lot of mafia so he responded that he played SC2 Mafia and I kind of brought it off topic to him so my fault there.
I said, I want to know what she is GOING to vote.
My point about -Celestial- is I think it's hypocritical to scum me for 1 post where I talk about policy or whatever and then he has 3 or 4 which have nothing to do with the game. I refuse to believe I wouldn't be scummed for that shit, but it's ok for him and the ones he was talking to. I already said I town read him so far, so clearly that means I'm not placing much weight on it in my read of him.
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On January 07 2015 02:14 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 02:12 LightningStrike wrote:On January 07 2015 02:04 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:56 -Celestial- wrote:On January 07 2015 01:51 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok I've taken the time myself to read over the evidence that LS presented and...actually its pretty convincing. Although I think meta reads, especially based on just one game, can easily be manipulated he IS playing this very similar to the way he has in the past and it IS from three separate games so...yeah well done there.
I can't in good faith vote LS anymore. His playstyle is just too consistent between townie games there and it has severely shaken my confidence on it. I don't really know playstyles very well of course but those links were fairly convincing. Of course LS could be deliberately selecting evidence but it doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a genuine attempt at convincing. Not a D1 lynch for me anymore.
I'm going to take a chance and remove my vote from there and put it on someone else. Its between WW, Shining and jarjar for me, as per my reads earlier. I agree with Tube, WW isn't the best candidate. His opening post was weak and he's said nothing since then but that isn't enough for me to lynch him at this early stage. I'd like to see more from Shining before I could put a vote down there. So I guess I'm going with jarjar for now since I have to vote for SOMEONE and frankly I really don't like his posting at all, it looks really scummy; was also the second highest read on my list so...
##Unvote
##Vote: jarjarbinks
On January 07 2015 01:18 Tubesock wrote:
-Celestial-
Why is Rsoultin more scummy than Gumdrops, Trfel, Silver, and me? I get why you town ExO so hard, and HTS but not the next 3 on your list? I think I'm still somewhat tainted by rsoultin's original impression on me. I really, really didn't like what appeared to be bluehunting (the reasoning for which I posted a little while back, I can quote it if you like). Though she has improved somewhat since that I'm still wary. Gumdrops I've just flat out not seen enough from to make much of a judgement call. Same with Trfel. But both of them posted something that appeared to be reasonably thought out so slight leanings towards town. Trfel also stated in advance he wouldn't be around for a bit and Gumdrops just seems awkward about posting. I can't condemn either of them to scum for that. Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. You didn't start great which is why I leaned you towards scum, but I didn't find your opening to be as scummy as rsoultins was and you've both improved in my eyes to the point where you're both back to neutral. But since rsoultin started off with slightly more damning posts you're slightly more in the townie direction than she is. Ah, I see our differences. I tend to disregard to some extent a person's first few posts. You appear to keep an even weighting on all of them. I do want to point out that you had 3-4 posts that were just about rsoultin's gender, or SC2 mafia or whatever. If I said them I think you would have scummed me even worse. Yet, I really only had the 1 post you didn't like, and it still pertained to the current game. But anyway, I do think you're town even if we don't agree on your town reads so much although we do agree on the scums. You make a fair point; but in defence of my reads I'm trying to disregard anything that doesn't actually pertain to the game itself (so off topic stuff I don't really look at unless its ALL there is). In your case I posted earlier why I didn't like your opening post and then you disappeared kinda so I didn't have a lot to go on and at that very early point it was very suspicious to me. Since then, of course, you've posted a lot more on-topic stuff which has helped a lot. This is another area where we differ. I think the off topic stuff is scummy. On January 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. I don't understand a couple of her reads, her progression on Waffle from a substantive part (the lurking is obvious), and I don't understand why she's scumreading Rasputin or why she isn't answering Rasputin's question, not from what I can tell anyhow. I don't know if it's because she's new or if she has something to hide. I'm curious how she is going to vote and what reasons she cites (assuming she doesn't ninja). She didn't ninja vote she posted why she voting for WarWaffle earlier on Page 17 I think the page number was you could look through her filter by clicking a link to her filter at the OP. Also to be fair about -Celestial-'s off topic stuff someone said he looked like he played a lot of mafia so he responded that he played SC2 Mafia and I kind of brought it off topic to him so my fault there. I said, I want to know what she is GOING to vote. My point about -Celestial- is I think it's hypocritical to scum me for 1 post where I talk about policy or whatever and then he has 3 or 4 which have nothing to do with the game. I refuse to believe I wouldn't be scummed for that shit, but it's ok for him and the ones he was talking to. I already said I town read him so far, so clearly that means I'm not placing much weight on it in my read of him.
She voting for TheWarWaffle atm as seen here
On January 06 2015 23:52 Silverarte wrote:
Alright! So no real chance to be able to vote after I head to work....so...here goes. (I'll throw questions at everyone after work)
@LS My personal personality alignment just isn't Chaotic enough!
ExO, I'm still curious on but I'm aware I'm in here too early to get the responses to my questions. I'm not voting you because you've had some great posts so far and I look forward to more.
Rereading everything so far (in what I missed and what's been said), Gumdrop did step up to give an explanation of his (or her!) thoughts at this point. I'm still suspicious because of how long it took, but honestly, you're as new as me so I totally get it. (Til next round. >D)
As far as my vote, rereading (and being convinced by several other player points), my vote is going to Waffle. I doublechecked the posts to validate what was being said, and it's true that there is a lot of lurking going on with only substance in the beginning given after prodding.
##Vote: TheWarWaffle
What you make of her reasoning for voting TheWarWaffle?
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On January 07 2015 02:14 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 02:12 LightningStrike wrote:On January 07 2015 02:04 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:56 -Celestial- wrote:On January 07 2015 01:51 Tubesock wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok I've taken the time myself to read over the evidence that LS presented and...actually its pretty convincing. Although I think meta reads, especially based on just one game, can easily be manipulated he IS playing this very similar to the way he has in the past and it IS from three separate games so...yeah well done there.
I can't in good faith vote LS anymore. His playstyle is just too consistent between townie games there and it has severely shaken my confidence on it. I don't really know playstyles very well of course but those links were fairly convincing. Of course LS could be deliberately selecting evidence but it doesn't feel like that, it feels more like a genuine attempt at convincing. Not a D1 lynch for me anymore.
I'm going to take a chance and remove my vote from there and put it on someone else. Its between WW, Shining and jarjar for me, as per my reads earlier. I agree with Tube, WW isn't the best candidate. His opening post was weak and he's said nothing since then but that isn't enough for me to lynch him at this early stage. I'd like to see more from Shining before I could put a vote down there. So I guess I'm going with jarjar for now since I have to vote for SOMEONE and frankly I really don't like his posting at all, it looks really scummy; was also the second highest read on my list so...
##Unvote
##Vote: jarjarbinks
On January 07 2015 01:18 Tubesock wrote:
-Celestial-
Why is Rsoultin more scummy than Gumdrops, Trfel, Silver, and me? I get why you town ExO so hard, and HTS but not the next 3 on your list? I think I'm still somewhat tainted by rsoultin's original impression on me. I really, really didn't like what appeared to be bluehunting (the reasoning for which I posted a little while back, I can quote it if you like). Though she has improved somewhat since that I'm still wary. Gumdrops I've just flat out not seen enough from to make much of a judgement call. Same with Trfel. But both of them posted something that appeared to be reasonably thought out so slight leanings towards town. Trfel also stated in advance he wouldn't be around for a bit and Gumdrops just seems awkward about posting. I can't condemn either of them to scum for that. Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. You didn't start great which is why I leaned you towards scum, but I didn't find your opening to be as scummy as rsoultins was and you've both improved in my eyes to the point where you're both back to neutral. But since rsoultin started off with slightly more damning posts you're slightly more in the townie direction than she is. Ah, I see our differences. I tend to disregard to some extent a person's first few posts. You appear to keep an even weighting on all of them. I do want to point out that you had 3-4 posts that were just about rsoultin's gender, or SC2 mafia or whatever. If I said them I think you would have scummed me even worse. Yet, I really only had the 1 post you didn't like, and it still pertained to the current game. But anyway, I do think you're town even if we don't agree on your town reads so much although we do agree on the scums. You make a fair point; but in defence of my reads I'm trying to disregard anything that doesn't actually pertain to the game itself (so off topic stuff I don't really look at unless its ALL there is). In your case I posted earlier why I didn't like your opening post and then you disappeared kinda so I didn't have a lot to go on and at that very early point it was very suspicious to me. Since then, of course, you've posted a lot more on-topic stuff which has helped a lot. This is another area where we differ. I think the off topic stuff is scummy. On January 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:On January 07 2015 01:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Silver I have literally no idea about, as I posted. I'd appreciate anyone else's thoughts because to me it just appears to be a mix. I don't understand a couple of her reads, her progression on Waffle from a substantive part (the lurking is obvious), and I don't understand why she's scumreading Rasputin or why she isn't answering Rasputin's question, not from what I can tell anyhow. I don't know if it's because she's new or if she has something to hide. I'm curious how she is going to vote and what reasons she cites (assuming she doesn't ninja). She didn't ninja vote she posted why she voting for WarWaffle earlier on Page 17 I think the page number was you could look through her filter by clicking a link to her filter at the OP. Also to be fair about -Celestial-'s off topic stuff someone said he looked like he played a lot of mafia so he responded that he played SC2 Mafia and I kind of brought it off topic to him so my fault there. I said, I want to know what she is GOING to vote. My point about -Celestial- is I think it's hypocritical to scum me for 1 post where I talk about policy or whatever and then he has 3 or 4 which have nothing to do with the game. I refuse to believe I wouldn't be scummed for that shit, but it's ok for him and the ones he was talking to. I already said I town read him so far, so clearly that means I'm not placing much weight on it in my read of him.
Ah, now I see where the thing is coming from. I wasn't scumming you for just the policy comment. I was scumming you for that AND this:
Looks like everyone is already gone asleep.
I like that rsoultin is already building cases.
I think JarJar is pretty funny. Maybe case building also runs in the family?
To me at that point rsoultin looked to me like she was bluehunting. And jarjar had solely posted a post saying "I AM TOWN" several times, with some excuses about why he wasn't going to be about.
In short, you'd posted positive comments on two people I had already developed a negative view over. Then you'd made an empty comment about how we need to lynch but it shouldn't be a policy lynch. And then you disappeared entirely. It was very early in the game by that point though, so I just had to go with what I had to work with but you hadn't left me with a good first impression.
Since then you've done a lot better. Hence my change in read.
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I'm not sure. The WarWaffle wagon started from what I think is a pressure vote. I'm undecided if she's just piling on the most popular wagon early or not. She did say she would come back before the lynch, and I inferred she would reevaluate and go from there.
warwaffle is a really safe vote for her if she's scum.
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On January 07 2015 02:24 Tubesock wrote:
I'm not sure. The WarWaffle wagon started from what I think is a pressure vote. I'm undecided if she's just piling on the most popular wagon early or not. She did say she would come back before the lynch, and I inferred she would reevaluate and go from there.
warwaffle is a really safe vote for her if she's scum.
Pretty sure it was a pressure vote by rsoultin wasn't it? Because of WW's claim that he had loads of stuff and then just going silent?
Everyone seems to be running away with it for some reason and I just don't know why to be honest. I don't think WW is in the clear but I really don't think its our best lynch either.
I agree with the assessment that its a safe vote if she's scum. But in and of itself I don't think it says she's scum.
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On January 05 2015 15:01 Tubesock wrote:
Looks like everyone is already gone asleep.
I like that rsoultin is already building cases.
I think JarJar is pretty funny. Maybe case building also runs in the family?
Ah, I just noticed that there wasn't much if any activity in the thread when I was able to finally show up. If you look up before I /in'd this game I mentioned I couldn't really play till Tuesday. I went to a friends cabin in the woods and knew I wouldn't spend much time reading/posting. Until Tuesday that is.
I didn't think rsoultin was blue hunting. I thought it was ExO that was doing it. I'll reread to double check. I think rsoultin came right out and was case building. Which I like from her.
I thought Jarjar was making fun of rsoultin who attacked HTS for a post she made. Rsoultin said something like "you may as well said "I AM TOWN I AM TOWN". Which later Jarjar actually did. Which I thought it was teasing. So I read Jar as "funny". I then said wondered if he could build cases too. Which I would think someone would take as a null read since at that point I didn't have anything to show me he can.
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On January 07 2015 02:31 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 02:24 Tubesock wrote:
I'm not sure. The WarWaffle wagon started from what I think is a pressure vote. I'm undecided if she's just piling on the most popular wagon early or not. She did say she would come back before the lynch, and I inferred she would reevaluate and go from there.
warwaffle is a really safe vote for her if she's scum. Pretty sure it was a pressure vote by rsoultin wasn't it? Because of WW's claim that he had loads of stuff and then just going silent? Everyone seems to be running away with it for some reason and I just don't know why to be honest. I don't think WW is in the clear but I really don't think its our best lynch either. I agree with the assessment that its a safe vote if she's scum. But in and of itself I don't think it says she's scum.
The WarWaffle vote from rsoultin is most definitely a pressure vote. The first sentence where I say "I'm not sure" is in response to I'm not sure what to think of Silver just yet.
I agree there are better lynches, but I also think the warwaffle votes shouldn't move until he steps up. If he dies for it, I'll certainly let him. But he is a policy vote for now. We still need like what 6 people to vote?
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Yeah its fair enough. I just wanted to clarify it wasn't entirely because of off topic leading, it was that combined with my impressions of other people you mentioned.
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JarJar....you haven't answered my question...I think others had questions too...
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For anyone out there, I think the D1 wagons are:
warwaffle (obvious since in the lead)
JarJar
The Shining
Anyone disagree?
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