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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 06 2015 19:51 GMT
#401
My apologies for the inactivity. I give no excuse other than the fact that my life is busy.

After reading the thread my current reads for the game are as follows:

The Shining: Town

The Shining has not posted all that much but the quality of posting changed drastically as soon as the game started. The Shining asks questions where they need to be asked and maintains a cordial aloofness towards everyone who is playing. No person is accused of anything without evidence.

Half the Sky: Town

HTS acts like a true townie. Says what she wants, when she wants to, to whomever she wants. At least, that's what she wants us to believe, but I don't have anything better at this time.

rsoultin: Suspicious

The accusation-train keeps on rolling whenever rsoultin is around. I find the similarities in play style to her previous games an indicator of deceit rather than openness. Rsoultin rolled Town in every other game she played like this, so why shouldn't she be Town now? I can't think of a better cover than this. Strangely, even though rsoultin admits that it's her "bias" to ignore inactives, she votes for me. This is strange for several reasons: I was inactive at the time she started my lynch wagon; she had previously agreed with my post on HTS; and there was no progression of thought as to why I was scum.


jarjarbinks: Light Town

Jarjarbinks' behavior sets off no alarm bells in my mind even though he lurks more than he posts. The posts he does make are normally short and succinct, and while many of his posts appear misleading at first, they work in the context. I think the only reason he is voting for me is because other people started the wagon.

Trfel: Unknown

As Trfel has posted effectively nothing indicating any affiliation, I must refrain from passing judgment on the hangman.

Gumdrop: Town

Gumdrop hasn't said much but from what was said I glean bits of Town. The reasons given for not posting more are adequate, and the type of posts implies a desire for something to happen, something the Mafia does not want. The posts that were made are logical and forward-thinking. A more Mafia-oriented lurker would post more misleading information.

Silverarte: Possible Mafia

The ease of which Silverarte hops aboard the bandwagon train is startling. Silverarte was leaning towards ExO_ and Gumdrop being scum, for the reasons of aggressive accusations and "posting and offering nothing" respectively. Somehow, both of these are forgotten as soon as she jumped on my vote bandwagon. For someone who admits she's new and even goes as far to use that as defense for gumdrop her voting for me makes no sense based on her previous actions. The previous existing relationship between Silverarte and rsoultin gives cause for the sudden change of thought, but even so...

ExO_: Light Town

My thoughts on ExO_ have flipped back and forth for some time now. Initially I thought he was town for being the only one willing to aggressively step and take affirmative action. After that, I thought he was scum for simply spreading accusations thin and putting a cloud of doubt over everyone, which is scum-like behavior. Though his disappearance is suspicious, it does not seem implicative.

-Celestial-: Town

-Celestial- maintains a consistent level of posts and explains his thoughts in a logical progression. I see no suspicious behavior, only a desire to understand and unearth new information.

LightningStrike: Suspicious/Unknown

I have my own reasons for being suspicious of LS, mainly due to the constant attempts to shift attention whenever the focus is on him.

Tubesock: Mafia

After looking at all of Tubesock's posts, I strongly believe that he is Mafia. His posts, while numerous, are short and always seem to detract from the conversation rather than add. Very few of the accusations presented by Tubesock are his; most are other people's regurgitated ideas. I think Tubesock's passive beginning was only due to the low amount of traffic it received, and that his "coming out of his shell" was him realizing that he could take advantage of it. Several times he has posted about the inactivity of the thread, which seems redundant when your very post makes it active. Tubesock only did this to make it look like he cares. A Mafia player wants there to be confusion, chaos, and distrust in the thread. Do Tubesock's actions create clear, organized discussion? I don't think so.

Currently, Tubesock has my vote. I'd like to hear other people's opinions as well.
Friends will help you move. Best friends will help you move the bodies.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 06 2015 19:52 GMT
#402
On January 07 2015 04:49 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 04:31 ExO_ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Okay finished reading. some quick thoughts:

People seem to have the impression I was scum flipping. But I'm going to constantly be updating my thoughts as more information goes in. At the time I first questioned shining (I didn't even accuse him of being scum) there were not that many people in the thread. Since then however, shining has based his scum reads off OMGUS and even townread HTS right after scumreading her. So I think Shining has been scummy. JarJar finally posted a substantial post, which was my biggest problem with him to begin with: the fact that he was clearly reading the thread but posting complete garbage. However I don't really like his reads and then calling out 5 people as scum? It makes no sense....but not in a scummish way. JarJar gets a pass from me for today, for what I think is just bad/newbish town play. As a side note, I wanted the vigi shot on him at the time because he was relatively inactive, but unlike the other inactives he was clearly reading.

Moving on to LS however: I think my original reasoning on him still holds. He's still playing this "oh I can't accuse anybody game, I'm unsure about every scum read" game. He asks questions, but I don't think he's getting valuable information out of people. He's polite and friendly sure. The kinda guy you want to like. But mafia isn't about being liked. It's not about lynching the rude people. It's about finding and lynching the scum. I don't think LS cares about that, he cares about slipping by. I think he's going to try a fake blue-claim if he gets a lot of pressure on him.

There's my initial thoughts. There's a lot of stuff I need to look at more in depth, but after my catch-up read through I still think LS is our best lynch. Just talking a lot is not a good reason to let somebody slip by, and I highly disagree with the meta-(this is how he played town in his other game)-reads. We need to focus on this game here.


If people think there is a better case than LS, please present it to me again. Or if theres a reason I should not be voting him today that I've missed. Because so far I don't see it.

Totally unrelated to the game: Could somebody also please clarify who I should be calling "she". I've gotten confused in the thread, and it would bug me slightly if I'm getting it wrong.


I don't know the proper way to deal with claims. To me, LS's "I'll claim if I have to" is a fucking claim. And it really irritates me, along with the meta stuff. The only towny thing I get from him is that he appears to be unafraid to post, and answer questions (aside from the little bit of heat to make him claim threaten). So, we vote him, he's going to claim. Now we will all panic and shenany on some shitty target that isn't vetted much. That's a lot to go wrong.

I'd rather vote The Shining or jarjar.

JarJar isn't following through really. He show's up, and leaves while I'm still here waiting on a question I've asked 4 times. I'm his #2 scum and his ideal scum play so why isn't he attacking me? I'm here to dance. I'll even wear a dress and you can call me pretty, but he just leaves.

Warwaffle is the leading wagon at the moment I think. While it is for sure a pressure/policy vote we have to lynch him if he doesn't show up right?


Honestly I really don't like the WW lynch. It just seems...well kinda silly honestly.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 19:56 GMT
#403
On January 07 2015 04:52 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 04:49 Tubesock wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:31 ExO_ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Okay finished reading. some quick thoughts:

People seem to have the impression I was scum flipping. But I'm going to constantly be updating my thoughts as more information goes in. At the time I first questioned shining (I didn't even accuse him of being scum) there were not that many people in the thread. Since then however, shining has based his scum reads off OMGUS and even townread HTS right after scumreading her. So I think Shining has been scummy. JarJar finally posted a substantial post, which was my biggest problem with him to begin with: the fact that he was clearly reading the thread but posting complete garbage. However I don't really like his reads and then calling out 5 people as scum? It makes no sense....but not in a scummish way. JarJar gets a pass from me for today, for what I think is just bad/newbish town play. As a side note, I wanted the vigi shot on him at the time because he was relatively inactive, but unlike the other inactives he was clearly reading.

Moving on to LS however: I think my original reasoning on him still holds. He's still playing this "oh I can't accuse anybody game, I'm unsure about every scum read" game. He asks questions, but I don't think he's getting valuable information out of people. He's polite and friendly sure. The kinda guy you want to like. But mafia isn't about being liked. It's not about lynching the rude people. It's about finding and lynching the scum. I don't think LS cares about that, he cares about slipping by. I think he's going to try a fake blue-claim if he gets a lot of pressure on him.

There's my initial thoughts. There's a lot of stuff I need to look at more in depth, but after my catch-up read through I still think LS is our best lynch. Just talking a lot is not a good reason to let somebody slip by, and I highly disagree with the meta-(this is how he played town in his other game)-reads. We need to focus on this game here.


If people think there is a better case than LS, please present it to me again. Or if theres a reason I should not be voting him today that I've missed. Because so far I don't see it.

Totally unrelated to the game: Could somebody also please clarify who I should be calling "she". I've gotten confused in the thread, and it would bug me slightly if I'm getting it wrong.


I don't know the proper way to deal with claims. To me, LS's "I'll claim if I have to" is a fucking claim. And it really irritates me, along with the meta stuff. The only towny thing I get from him is that he appears to be unafraid to post, and answer questions (aside from the little bit of heat to make him claim threaten). So, we vote him, he's going to claim. Now we will all panic and shenany on some shitty target that isn't vetted much. That's a lot to go wrong.

I'd rather vote The Shining or jarjar.

JarJar isn't following through really. He show's up, and leaves while I'm still here waiting on a question I've asked 4 times. I'm his #2 scum and his ideal scum play so why isn't he attacking me? I'm here to dance. I'll even wear a dress and you can call me pretty, but he just leaves.

Warwaffle is the leading wagon at the moment I think. While it is for sure a pressure/policy vote we have to lynch him if he doesn't show up right?


Honestly I really don't like the WW lynch. It just seems...well kinda silly honestly.


It's a pressure vote. At least he finally has appeared.

So, Warwaffle, I'm your strongest read. What's my scum motivation for having one of the largest filters? Why would I bother trying to get people to talk? Who really pushed to get information from Silver, JarJar, and Gumdrops who universally appear to be deemed lurkers?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 06 2015 19:59 GMT
#404
Wait, the voting deadline is tonight? I thought it was tomorrow night....

BTW I am here and am doing a careful rereading of the thread. I will post my thoughts and my vote when I am done, with explanations of course.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 06 2015 20:01 GMT
#405
On January 07 2015 04:28 Tubesock wrote:
Do you have lynch targets outside of Shining, JarJar, and Warwaffle?


Shining and JarJar at this point in time. Re-examining LS, WW (having just posted his reads), Gumdrop. Silverarte needs to answer my questions, but I want to see her responses.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 06 2015 20:02 GMT
#406
On January 07 2015 04:59 Trfel wrote:
Wait, the voting deadline is tonight? I thought it was tomorrow night....


EoD is 4h from now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 06 2015 20:03 GMT
#407
On January 07 2015 04:59 Trfel wrote:
Wait, the voting deadline is tonight? I thought it was tomorrow night....

BTW I am here and am doing a careful rereading of the thread. I will post my thoughts and my vote when I am done, with explanations of course.


Its in about four hours so we're running out of time a bit to settle on a first lynch. It'd be really nice to pick off a mafia right away but at the moment all we really have is a pressure wagon on WW.

I guess its not the most terrible thing in the world (I've been suspicious of him for a while after all) but it still comes across as suboptimal. Not quite a "lynching for information" but pretty close.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 20:03 GMT
#408
On January 07 2015 04:59 Trfel wrote:
Wait, the voting deadline is tonight? I thought it was tomorrow night....

BTW I am here and am doing a careful rereading of the thread. I will post my thoughts and my vote when I am done, with explanations of course.


Not a current Vote count but the latest with the timing to lynch.

On January 06 2015 23:35 The_Templar wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

jarjarbinks (0): ExO_
LightningStrike (2): ExO_, -Celestial-
Gumdrop (1): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (1): rsoultin

Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. until deadline.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 06 2015 20:07 GMT
#409
On January 07 2015 04:50 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 04:28 Tubesock wrote:
HTS, I know you're waiting on some responses to your questions from others, but do you have a D1 lynch list?

I'm starting to get worried that with such little activity, and so many who still need to vote, that people are going to be doing bullshit shenanies at EoD.

Do you have lynch targets outside of Shining, JarJar, and Warwaffle?


I don't think so. I think that's basically the list at this point. Personally I think its a pretty reasonable list for the stage we're at too.


@ExO_: What are your thoughts on LS (and others) pointing out he's played exactly the same way when he's been town on several previous occasions? I've been somewhat persuaded by that enough to conclude that for now I don't think he's the best D1 lynch. I mean I'm still not won over to make him town, but ideally we're looking for a D1 mafia lynch and I don't think he's the one to guarantee it.


Correct me if I'm wrong but is there any example of his mafia play? If there isn't any evidence to show that he'd act differently as scum, then I think the town-meta-read on him is garbage. And even if there is, his play here in this game seems scummish to me. It doesn't matter if in a previous game similar play from him was town. It might if I was on the fence with him, but I'm not.

Which is why I think he IS the day 1 mafia lynch. I think he's trying to be active enough so that we have to say "He's a bad day 1 lynch." Compared to the other candidates (Shining/JarJar/WW) I think he's the best bet. I believe it strongly enough that I'm not willing to concede the vote for now, subsequently voting for one of the others.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 06 2015 20:10 GMT
#410
Fair enough, just wanted your thoughts.

I'm away for a while now anyway, got stuff to do and got to have dinner. I'll be back a little before the deadline to see where we stand.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 20:11 GMT
#411
On January 07 2015 05:07 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 04:50 -Celestial- wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:28 Tubesock wrote:
HTS, I know you're waiting on some responses to your questions from others, but do you have a D1 lynch list?

I'm starting to get worried that with such little activity, and so many who still need to vote, that people are going to be doing bullshit shenanies at EoD.

Do you have lynch targets outside of Shining, JarJar, and Warwaffle?


I don't think so. I think that's basically the list at this point. Personally I think its a pretty reasonable list for the stage we're at too.


@ExO_: What are your thoughts on LS (and others) pointing out he's played exactly the same way when he's been town on several previous occasions? I've been somewhat persuaded by that enough to conclude that for now I don't think he's the best D1 lynch. I mean I'm still not won over to make him town, but ideally we're looking for a D1 mafia lynch and I don't think he's the one to guarantee it.


Correct me if I'm wrong but is there any example of his mafia play? If there isn't any evidence to show that he'd act differently as scum, then I think the town-meta-read on him is garbage. And even if there is, his play here in this game seems scummish to me. It doesn't matter if in a previous game similar play from him was town. It might if I was on the fence with him, but I'm not.

Which is why I think he IS the day 1 mafia lynch. I think he's trying to be active enough so that we have to say "He's a bad day 1 lynch." Compared to the other candidates (Shining/JarJar/WW) I think he's the best bet. I believe it strongly enough that I'm not willing to concede the vote for now, subsequently voting for one of the others.


If he hardclaims, are you going to ignore it?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 20:12 GMT
#412
I'm Vanilla Town this game I wish I was a Cop to redeem myself from Campus Mafia
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 06 2015 20:13 GMT
#413
On January 07 2015 05:07 ExO_ wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but is there any example of his mafia play? If there isn't any evidence to show that he'd act differently as scum, then I think the town-meta-read on him is garbage.


ExO, there is. In Student Mafia IV (my own first game), he was a mafia goon. And he showed in his posts that he had more to hide in that game. At least in comparison I think.

Game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome

LS filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 20:17 GMT
#414
On January 07 2015 04:51 TheWarWaffle wrote:
My apologies for the inactivity. I give no excuse other than the fact that my life is busy.
+ Show Spoiler +

After reading the thread my current reads for the game are as follows:

The Shining: Town

The Shining has not posted all that much but the quality of posting changed drastically as soon as the game started. The Shining asks questions where they need to be asked and maintains a cordial aloofness towards everyone who is playing. No person is accused of anything without evidence.

Half the Sky: Town

HTS acts like a true townie. Says what she wants, when she wants to, to whomever she wants. At least, that's what she wants us to believe, but I don't have anything better at this time.

rsoultin: Suspicious

The accusation-train keeps on rolling whenever rsoultin is around. I find the similarities in play style to her previous games an indicator of deceit rather than openness. Rsoultin rolled Town in every other game she played like this, so why shouldn't she be Town now? I can't think of a better cover than this. Strangely, even though rsoultin admits that it's her "bias" to ignore inactives, she votes for me. This is strange for several reasons: I was inactive at the time she started my lynch wagon; she had previously agreed with my post on HTS; and there was no progression of thought as to why I was scum.


jarjarbinks: Light Town

Jarjarbinks' behavior sets off no alarm bells in my mind even though he lurks more than he posts. The posts he does make are normally short and succinct, and while many of his posts appear misleading at first, they work in the context. I think the only reason he is voting for me is because other people started the wagon.

Trfel: Unknown

As Trfel has posted effectively nothing indicating any affiliation, I must refrain from passing judgment on the hangman.

Gumdrop: Town

Gumdrop hasn't said much but from what was said I glean bits of Town. The reasons given for not posting more are adequate, and the type of posts implies a desire for something to happen, something the Mafia does not want. The posts that were made are logical and forward-thinking. A more Mafia-oriented lurker would post more misleading information.

Silverarte: Possible Mafia

The ease of which Silverarte hops aboard the bandwagon train is startling. Silverarte was leaning towards ExO_ and Gumdrop being scum, for the reasons of aggressive accusations and "posting and offering nothing" respectively. Somehow, both of these are forgotten as soon as she jumped on my vote bandwagon. For someone who admits she's new and even goes as far to use that as defense for gumdrop her voting for me makes no sense based on her previous actions. The previous existing relationship between Silverarte and rsoultin gives cause for the sudden change of thought, but even so...

ExO_: Light Town

My thoughts on ExO_ have flipped back and forth for some time now. Initially I thought he was town for being the only one willing to aggressively step and take affirmative action. After that, I thought he was scum for simply spreading accusations thin and putting a cloud of doubt over everyone, which is scum-like behavior. Though his disappearance is suspicious, it does not seem implicative.

-Celestial-: Town

-Celestial- maintains a consistent level of posts and explains his thoughts in a logical progression. I see no suspicious behavior, only a desire to understand and unearth new information.

LightningStrike: Suspicious/Unknown

I have my own reasons for being suspicious of LS, mainly due to the constant attempts to shift attention whenever the focus is on him.

Tubesock: Mafia

After looking at all of Tubesock's posts, I strongly believe that he is Mafia. His posts, while numerous, are short and always seem to detract from the conversation rather than add. Very few of the accusations presented by Tubesock are his; most are other people's regurgitated ideas. I think Tubesock's passive beginning was only due to the low amount of traffic it received, and that his "coming out of his shell" was him realizing that he could take advantage of it. Several times he has posted about the inactivity of the thread, which seems redundant when your very post makes it active. Tubesock only did this to make it look like he cares. A Mafia player wants there to be confusion, chaos, and distrust in the thread. Do Tubesock's actions create clear, organized discussion? I don't think so.


Currently, Tubesock has my vote. I'd like to hear other people's opinions as well.


I'll ask again.

So, Warwaffle, I'm your strongest read. What's my scum motivation for having one of the largest filters? Why would I bother trying to get people to talk? Who really pushed to get information from Silver, JarJar, and Gumdrops who universally appear to be deemed lurkers?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 06 2015 20:20 GMT
#415
On January 07 2015 05:11 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 05:07 ExO_ wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:50 -Celestial- wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:28 Tubesock wrote:
HTS, I know you're waiting on some responses to your questions from others, but do you have a D1 lynch list?

I'm starting to get worried that with such little activity, and so many who still need to vote, that people are going to be doing bullshit shenanies at EoD.

Do you have lynch targets outside of Shining, JarJar, and Warwaffle?


I don't think so. I think that's basically the list at this point. Personally I think its a pretty reasonable list for the stage we're at too.


@ExO_: What are your thoughts on LS (and others) pointing out he's played exactly the same way when he's been town on several previous occasions? I've been somewhat persuaded by that enough to conclude that for now I don't think he's the best D1 lynch. I mean I'm still not won over to make him town, but ideally we're looking for a D1 mafia lynch and I don't think he's the one to guarantee it.


Correct me if I'm wrong but is there any example of his mafia play? If there isn't any evidence to show that he'd act differently as scum, then I think the town-meta-read on him is garbage. And even if there is, his play here in this game seems scummish to me. It doesn't matter if in a previous game similar play from him was town. It might if I was on the fence with him, but I'm not.

Which is why I think he IS the day 1 mafia lynch. I think he's trying to be active enough so that we have to say "He's a bad day 1 lynch." Compared to the other candidates (Shining/JarJar/WW) I think he's the best bet. I believe it strongly enough that I'm not willing to concede the vote for now, subsequently voting for one of the others.


If he hardclaims, are you going to ignore it?


It gets a lot harder then. If he is mafia (as I suspect) then he'll have nothing to lose by claiming a blue role.

It'll depend on if he claims blue, and what specific blue role he claims. I won't ignore it, but will make a decision when I see what he says.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 06 2015 20:21 GMT
#416
On January 07 2015 05:12 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm Vanilla Town this game I wish I was a Cop to redeem myself from Campus Mafia

Why are you claiming? Don't make it easier for the mafia to kill power roles. You should know better than that.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 20:23 GMT
#417
On January 07 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:
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On January 07 2015 05:12 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm Vanilla Town this game I wish I was a Cop to redeem myself from Campus Mafia

Why are you claiming? Don't make it easier for the mafia to kill power roles. You should know better than that.

Because ExO and Tube pretty much asked me to claim.
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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 06 2015 20:24 GMT
#418
On January 07 2015 05:13 Half the Sky wrote:
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On January 07 2015 05:07 ExO_ wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but is there any example of his mafia play? If there isn't any evidence to show that he'd act differently as scum, then I think the town-meta-read on him is garbage.


ExO, there is. In Student Mafia IV (my own first game), he was a mafia goon. And he showed in his posts that he had more to hide in that game. At least in comparison I think.

Game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome

LS filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike


I'll admit he had more initial scum reads at first. But then, there's this his first big "read" post:

On November 28 2014 12:56 LightningStrike wrote:
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Okay since now that my cousin and his wife and son have left I can finally give you guys my current reads for the time being.
Breshke: Town since he displaying the same kind of approach for today as he did in my last game when he was town.

Batsnacks: Null leaning town since he is acting close to the same way he did last game with me when he was a doctor but he been dodging questions from Oatsmaster and Half the Sky.

Damndred: Null leaning town since he was one of the major pushers for the lynching of DSIM without much of a good reason and been defending Batsnacks actions but at the same time he been giving losts of questions although DSIM didn't respond well to the questions.

Half the Sky: Town since he been giving good reasonings for his reads throughout the game although I don't like his case for Batsnacks being scum based on my own experience playing with Batsnacks in my last game.

sicklucker: Town because his posting style had pretty much stayed the same from the last game I played with him although he did looked very scummy in that game but he was just a Vanilla town and since our power roles had been lynched/killed I having a safe bet that sicklucker is town.

meatpudding: Null leaning town he had some decent questions after being gone for a while and now he claiming to have no power at his house it could be a scum move because one of the scums in my last game tried to pull that move but failed so perhaps meatpudding could scum.

alakaslam: null leaning scum since he not posted much of his reads but he also admitted to notread much of the thread during the time of us lynching DSIM but I need to see more posts of his though since he said he had to go earlier in the thread to confirm my suspicions.

Oatsmasters: Town since he been asking lots of questions to everyone and been trying to lead the discussion when he can which isn't a trait a scum member would do.

kushm4sta: Null leaning scum since he not been contributing a lot like his last scum game which was my last although he did give a couple questions to people he also didn't post much so I need to wait for him to post more so I can get a better read on him

rsoultin: Null leaning town since he trying to ask some questions and responding to questions he been asked by others although he did convence me to lynch DSIM that is haunting me because of my last game experience :|


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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#419
On January 07 2015 05:20 ExO_ wrote:
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On January 07 2015 05:11 Tubesock wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:07 ExO_ wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:50 -Celestial- wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:28 Tubesock wrote:
HTS, I know you're waiting on some responses to your questions from others, but do you have a D1 lynch list?

I'm starting to get worried that with such little activity, and so many who still need to vote, that people are going to be doing bullshit shenanies at EoD.

Do you have lynch targets outside of Shining, JarJar, and Warwaffle?


I don't think so. I think that's basically the list at this point. Personally I think its a pretty reasonable list for the stage we're at too.


@ExO_: What are your thoughts on LS (and others) pointing out he's played exactly the same way when he's been town on several previous occasions? I've been somewhat persuaded by that enough to conclude that for now I don't think he's the best D1 lynch. I mean I'm still not won over to make him town, but ideally we're looking for a D1 mafia lynch and I don't think he's the one to guarantee it.


Correct me if I'm wrong but is there any example of his mafia play? If there isn't any evidence to show that he'd act differently as scum, then I think the town-meta-read on him is garbage. And even if there is, his play here in this game seems scummish to me. It doesn't matter if in a previous game similar play from him was town. It might if I was on the fence with him, but I'm not.

Which is why I think he IS the day 1 mafia lynch. I think he's trying to be active enough so that we have to say "He's a bad day 1 lynch." Compared to the other candidates (Shining/JarJar/WW) I think he's the best bet. I believe it strongly enough that I'm not willing to concede the vote for now, subsequently voting for one of the others.


If he hardclaims, are you going to ignore it?


It gets a lot harder then. If he is mafia (as I suspect) then he'll have nothing to lose by claiming a blue role.

It'll depend on if he claims blue, and what specific blue role he claims. I won't ignore it, but will make a decision when I see what he says.


It's moot now. He claimed VT so we lynch him now at worst we lynch a vt. I think he's 4th on my list though. I really really want WarWaffle to come back.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 06 2015 20:27 GMT
#420
On January 07 2015 05:12 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm Vanilla Town this game I wish I was a Cop to redeem myself from Campus Mafia


Nope I don't believe it.

I think LS is mafia and believe we can nab him right now.
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