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On September 21 2014 08:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 08:34 Holyflare wrote:On September 21 2014 08:33 Lord Tolkien wrote:On September 21 2014 08:32 Holyflare wrote:On September 21 2014 08:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: Also HF, I think that's a 4.6% chance of you visiting JAT N1 so it's a pretty damning catch... what on earth are you talking about, who cares who i visited on n1 if they didn't die and he was one of the top town?? It would be pretty coincidental if you visited a blue role town N1 and they got shot N2. it would be pretty coincidental if jat was playing like shit and wasn't someone that was likely to die and he randomly died out of the blue yes As opposed to simply killing the masons so town has no confirmed town left?
i think you're playing in a different game because it's not mylo so why would they need to do that when the 2 masons aren't even playing
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On September 19 2014 06:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 06:14 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't even know what I think anymore.
Can someone more experienced look at Yamato's filter and tell me why I am so irked? It's like he saw the vulnerability of geript's misplay and is using it to coast through D2. 3/5 of his last posts are variations of "We should lynch geript." with nothing else. it should be obvious to more experienced people but the mafia team is obviously full of inexperienced people
On September 19 2014 06:32 Holyflare wrote: ^ obvious that yamato is most likely town
dat proof tho
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On September 21 2014 08:37 IAmRobik wrote: I'm alive but I'm not around. I have no idea why batsnacks wants to spite-lynch me considering I've been pretty productive of late and have been the only one giving reads, but if that's what he wants to do, then I don't know what to do, since he doesn't have an actual accusation against me.
As for yamato/hf thing. I don't know what to make of it. I can see why HF would claim that tracker role thingy if he's mafia role cop. That kinda makes sense then. I can also see him being that green role and just happening to visit JAT?
You have the names backwards.
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So when you say people who are not jailers/medics should claim, is that just for useful roles?
I am still thinking storrzerga and now holyflare for lynches today. I just got to work so a detailed post will have to wait sorry.
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On September 21 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 08:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:On September 21 2014 08:34 Holyflare wrote:On September 21 2014 08:33 Lord Tolkien wrote:On September 21 2014 08:32 Holyflare wrote:On September 21 2014 08:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: Also HF, I think that's a 4.6% chance of you visiting JAT N1 so it's a pretty damning catch... what on earth are you talking about, who cares who i visited on n1 if they didn't die and he was one of the top town?? It would be pretty coincidental if you visited a blue role town N1 and they got shot N2. it would be pretty coincidental if jat was playing like shit and wasn't someone that was likely to die and he randomly died out of the blue yes As opposed to simply killing the masons so town has no confirmed town left? i think you're playing in a different game because it's not mylo so why would they need to do that when the 2 masons aren't even playing It is MYLO actually. Or, at least, pretty damn close. 15 left: mislynch one, we're at 12 (or 13 with correct save).
15-3 (1 l, 2 nk)=12. If 5 mafia left and assuming we get all right lynches after... 12-3=9, 4 mafia left 9-3=6, 3 mafia left (town loses) without saves
With 1 save, assuming we get another mislynch,
13-2 (1 l, 1 nk)=3 13-3=10, 4 mafia left 10-3=7, 3 mafia left 7-3=4, 2 mafia left (mafia wins)
Again, need 2 correct jailkeep saves to keep town from losing.
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On September 21 2014 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote: So when you say people who are not jailers/medics should claim, is that just for useful roles?
I am still thinking storrzerga and now holyflare for lynches today. I just got to work so a detailed post will have to wait sorry.
absolutely nobody should have claimed today and you have had no input into this situation whatsoever, why should I die now? All that yamato has claimed is that I visited JAT on night 1.
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it's 10vs5 right now
mylo means that if we hit a town we lose which is not the case, if we mislynch today and kills go through then it is
7vs5 tomorrow and tomorrow would then become mylo
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its effectively MYLO, because mafia has 2KP. Bar night actions we cannot hope to win.
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And right now, our blue roster is pretty gutted.
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We can still win we just have to actually hit mafia, your pessimistic attitude is bad for town.
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look whatever it doesn't matter we just lynch mafia and proceed
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On September 21 2014 08:50 Damdred wrote: We can still win we just have to actually hit mafia, your pessimistic attitude is bad for town. OFC we can, we just need to be careful not to mislynch. Which is what I'm saying.
If not, we need 2 correct saves at night to save town (or the unlikely possibility of a 3rd vigi shooting elfscum).
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Anyways, this changes everything for me.
Rereading Holyflare from the perspective of a mafia rolecop, not liking the implications (for him).
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7 - 5 becomes 7 - 4 with a correct lynch. Then 5 - 4 during the night with another correct lynch it becomes 5 - 3 then 3 - 3 after the night.
So it is mylo assuming no saves/other versions of saving kp. If we slept it wouldn't be insta loss with no saves so its mylo in like every world without a Medic save HF.
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well i can quite positively tell you that you're wasting your time doing that
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no its not because mafia kp is delivered so there 2 extra chances to save
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and who knows there might even be a veteran
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but not likely but we absolutely do not claim blue roles today
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I wasn't done reading what I missed overnight sorry I just saw the argument with HF and yamato and saw people saying we should mass roleclaim. I withdraw my question.
I am pretty lost actually. I'm gonna reread storr's filter and see why I disliked him, other than the work damdred for me.
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