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On August 12 2014 14:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 14:20 gobbledydook wrote:On August 12 2014 14:14 Eden1892 wrote: What are my current scum reads Cav? What's my rationale and how did I make them up? I think we just solved the game. obi haru gk scumteam gogo I'm still baffled as to how we lynched Vivax over you. You should have fucking died day 1.
so your proposed scum team is me eden and ???
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On August 12 2014 14:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't even care about all of your scumreads. I care about your scumread on me.
You came to the decision that I would be your ride-or-die townread if I carried out my reread, but then immediately turned around and read me as scum because I wasn't trying hard enough.
You don't have any actual reasons for the things that you're saying. The progression of your reads don't actually make sense, especially when you turn around and call your top town mafia for the exact reasons you were planning to read them as town. I told you that in the hopes you would actually give a coherent set of reads that show you have a rational progressive view of the game state. I've already pretty clearly demonstrated since the Poofter flip where my mind is at, and while I obviously wasn't correct on all of it, you can't sensibly argue that I haven't been open in my thought process and demonstrated clarity of argument and direction.
And hold the phone, bullshitter, you said this:
On August 12 2014 14:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you just made up reasons for your scumreads.
##vote eden You can't backtrack from this shit. You said I made up reasons for my scumreads. You are pointedly not demonstrating how any of them are made up.
I've repeatedly asked you your view on goodkarma. You consistently ignore my questions.
You're completely full of shit and your team is colossally fucking up LYLO
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On August 12 2014 14:42 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 14:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't even care about all of your scumreads. I care about your scumread on me.
You came to the decision that I would be your ride-or-die townread if I carried out my reread, but then immediately turned around and read me as scum because I wasn't trying hard enough.
You don't have any actual reasons for the things that you're saying. The progression of your reads don't actually make sense, especially when you turn around and call your top town mafia for the exact reasons you were planning to read them as town. I told you that in the hopes you would actually give a coherent set of reads that show you have a rational progressive view of the game state. I've already pretty clearly demonstrated since the Poofter flip where my mind is at, and while I obviously wasn't correct on all of it, you can't sensibly argue that I haven't been open in my thought process and demonstrated clarity of argument and direction. And hold the phone, bullshitter, you said this: Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 14:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you just made up reasons for your scumreads.
##vote eden You can't backtrack from this shit. You said I made up reasons for my scumreads. You are pointedly not demonstrating how any of them are made up. I've repeatedly asked you your view on goodkarma. You consistently ignore my questions. You're completely full of shit and your team is colossally fucking up LYLO
I just told you how you made them up. You were planning on reading me as town and then immediately read me as mafia for the reasons you were planning to read me as town. You made up reasons.
And I don't understand how my goodkarma read has anything to do with anything at all.
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No, you didn't. I never said I scumread you for the reasons I was planning to townread you. Cite sources because I don't understand wtf you're talking about.
Also you said reads, as in plural. How can you look at all my reads and say they're made up? Cite it and show it.
Your pointed refusal to give a read on goodkarma has everything to do with this game right now because it's so fucking obvious that goodkarma slipped with his "plan" and the fact that you refuse to say anything about it whatsoever is part-and-parcel scum tactic in a situation like this. You don't want to bus your teammate but you don't have the balls to townread him since he's being scummy so you're dancing around on the fence, refusing to give any answer whatsoever and hoping if you ignore it enough it'll go away.
It won't. What are your reads? You made a big deal about going back and rereading the whole game and throwing out alllll your reads, where's your work? It's LYLO, if by some amazing stroke of terrible luck you're town then you need to get those reads out and start discussing them ASAP because you're fucking wrong about me and we're going to lose if you don't move your vote, so you better start talking in real details with real posts and real quotes so we can sort out whatever your problem is and find scum.
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So Eden, while we agree on who the 3 scum are, we need to decide in what order we lynch them, and JAT/WoS need to both agree with us. Otherwise we still aren't going anywhere. I think we lynch goodkarma first.
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On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much.
I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there.
Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch.
I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on.
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Yeah I'm completely with you. I need Wave and JAT to check back in and catch everything (especially JAT) and we can figure it out from there. Gotta get on the same page first.
I think I want Haru first to make goodkarma switch like anybody who's really sheeping Holyflare should do. If there's anybody I feel like I could be wrong about it's goodkarma, because there's an appreciable chance that he really is just completely-mailed-it-in town instead of scum (whereas I really don't see any way Haru and Obi are town at this point). I feel like Haru is probably the highest-% play we have since he's the only one that none of the four of us have any reservations about.
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On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much. Show nested quote +I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there. Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch. I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on. Busted
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On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote: Yeah I'm completely with you. I need Wave and JAT to check back in and catch everything (especially JAT) and we can figure it out from there. Gotta get on the same page first.
I think I want Haru first to make goodkarma switch like anybody who's really sheeping Holyflare should do. If there's anybody I feel like I could be wrong about it's goodkarma, because there's an appreciable chance that he really is just completely-mailed-it-in town instead of scum (whereas I really don't see any way Haru and Obi are town at this point). I feel like Haru is probably the highest-% play we have since he's the only one that none of the four of us have any reservations about.
I can see posting any big posts is enough to sway you into thinking someone is town.
I'm just going to go back to not giving a fuck then.
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On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much. I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there. Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch. I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on. Busted
Uh, not really?
lol wtf.
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Cool, there's only one alignment that can still afford to fuck around so thanks for illuminating this complex situation for me
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That's not how this game works.
Honestly, you're so dumb.
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On August 12 2014 15:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much. I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there. Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch. I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on. Busted Uh, not really? lol wtf. "ABUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH YOU'RE MAKING UP YOUR READS"
"what reads am i making up cav"
"ABUUUUUUUUH YOUR READ ON ME"
"where am i making up a read on you cav"
"uhhhhhhhhhh my bad lol ##STEALTHUNVOTE"
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On August 12 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Honestly, you're so dumb. First right thing you've said about me this evening
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On August 12 2014 15:26 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 15:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 15:19 Eden1892 wrote:On August 12 2014 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 12 2014 10:20 Eden1892 wrote:Problem is that leaves me with too many options still. goodkarma is one. ObiWanShinobi and HaruRH are two others who fit the bill, they drop in sporadically and then peace out and I don't really see where their picture of the game state is evolving much. I feel good about JAT and Wave right now, Obi too but a little less so than them. I trust if Obi does what he says then I can probably feel comfy townreading him and ride-or-die from there. Eh, now that I post it I don't feel confident anymore because it feels like a stretch. I'm probably just going to finish my reread and move on. Busted Uh, not really? lol wtf. "ABUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH YOU'RE MAKING UP YOUR READS" "what reads am i making up cav" "ABUUUUUUUUH YOUR READ ON ME" "where am i making up a read on you cav" "uhhhhhhhhhh my bad lol ##STEALTHUNVOTE"
I stand by the fact that you turned around and scumread me for next to no reason after you were so willing to declare that I was your ride-or-die townread.
The fact that my scumread was wrong doesn't really make what you're doing any better.
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NONONO YOURE NOT LYNCHING ME WHEN IM NOT AROUND
I have never lost a game where I was part of lylo. Never. (Excluding the only scum game because obviously I'm talking about town games here). This is where I throw all hardcore reads away and find the person slipping the most.
Only 3 people are slipping alot right now. Gk, obi, eden. The 3 of you are slipping so hard it isn't even funny anymore. Obi shortsighted so hard. Gk is so excited to end the game already. Eden is being wishy washy now.
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Oh for fuck's sake.
How are any of us slipping?
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On August 12 2014 15:47 HaruRH wrote: Eden is being wishy washy now. Confirmed for not reading the thread
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I still think we should kill Jat for posting dumb shit.
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Yo I just realized we're in some serious trouble this game due to time zones + 24hr days. Aside from the obvious shit that everyone needs to post asap, can we all agree to be online an hour before deadline? I'm pretty confident in my scum pile at this point but consolidation could be a really formidable challenge, and I need every one of my townies to fucking be there so we can make SURE we're on the same page.
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