World Heavyweight Championship mafia III - Page 211

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 13 2014 20:00 GMT

#4201

People who do not play in LYLO should be mafia and therefore should be lynched.
When you have absolutely no room for error everyone should do their best to help their team. If they do not play - they are not helping town.

So yes Eden, your heuristic is imo correct and should be applied to LYLO situations because even if you sometimes go wrong knowing that not playing gets you lynched (really? lol ^^) maybe makes people want to try a bit more to not lose the game.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

August 13 2014 20:02 GMT

#4202

Almost every lylo I've been in the mafia tries 10x harder and the town don't really

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 13 2014 20:10 GMT

#4203

On August 14 2014 02:09 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I was actually busy for the record, I just managed to get time off for LYLO

Also my cases against you were SO BAD I didn't even read the friggin thread when I posted that first one about you sheeping, then I had to go back and try to make it make at least some sense....good lord

marv I am disappoint. I think that's three times I've beaten you :D

Yes

the little things - like moving off Haru on day 1 because Vivax pissed me off. It was so close to being different.

And i listened to kush too much. actually i do respect his opinions but i had both gobbledy and holyflare as town early d1 and got swayed off those reads.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 13 2014 20:12 GMT

#4204

On August 14 2014 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who do not play in LYLO should be mafia and therefore should be lynched.
When you have absolutely no room for error everyone should do their best to help their team. If they do not play - they are not helping town.

So yes Eden, your heuristic is imo correct and should be applied to LYLO situations because even if you sometimes go wrong knowing that not playing gets you lynched (really? lol ^^) maybe makes people want to try a bit more to not lose the game.

VERY wishful thinking Rayn. you know hwo games here go a lot of the time.

Speaking specifically about this game, many people were doing their best to help their team. Specifically, my team tried really hard. We had to be around and helping out to ensure one of our selected lynches would go through. Not playing is not a good heuristic imo.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 13 2014 20:13 GMT

#4205

On August 14 2014 05:10 marvellosity wrote:

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On August 14 2014 02:09 WaveofShadow wrote:

On August 14 2014 01:39 Holyflare wrote:

On August 13 2014 23:34 Eden1892 wrote:
So what did I need to do differently/better this game? I have my list but I want external feedback. My list:
• Post less. I'm always gonna be an active poster but there wasn't any need or use for that many. Diminishing returns are real, I lost/forgot/changed my mind a bunch without explaining my reasoning and it's because I posted too much and overloaded myself. Literally gave myself long-term memory loss this game lmao
• Push more. It's my town game bottom line. This stems from the previous point; I couldn't keep up with my own thought process and that made it impossible to push my reads. I sheeped way too much because I couldn't keep up with myself.
• Trust instincts more! They mostly failed me at LYLO but I feel like if I'd listened to myself more before then and pushed then we wouldn't be in LYLO.

I don't think you need to push more that's for sure

You pushed nothing but me over and over again and it made it hard to kind of get on track to do other things just to disprove every bit of confirmation bias, I mean the best way to look at it is to see who is pushing things that make sense and knows what's going on in the game and who is sitting back and posting things that make no sense whatsoever: i.e. Wave when he returned calling me out for sheeping (when i didn't) and haru pushing gobble with nothing scummy in his push etc.

I dunno, it just comes from experience I guess because at lylo the entire scum team suddenly had massive amounts of free time on a weekday when they've been "busy" the whole game and started pushing a massive agenda to get one player lynched instead of looking analytically at everyone.

I was actually busy for the record, I just managed to get time off for LYLO

Yes

You gotta stop going so YOLO, though I gotta say for the most part when you pull those kinds of lynches they go pretty well.
I was pleasantly surprised at kush's play. he did really well and was crazy towny, but utterly and completely wrong about like EVERYTHING. Worked out really nicely for us

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 13 2014 20:14 GMT

#4206

i was kinda compromised that evening so i shouldn't have been making decisions on anything past about 2h before deadline.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

August 13 2014 20:15 GMT

#4207

i think i even made a post at the time commenting as such

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 13 2014 20:16 GMT

#4208

On August 14 2014 05:12 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Then you played well in LYLO and townies didn't. It does not change the fact they should have not NOT been lynched if they didn't play right?

Like i will never feel sorry for anyone who gets lynched because they did not play. They deserve it.

EDIT: I mean, i don't even know what happened in this game, but i assumed someone got lynched in LYLO because they didn't put effort to the game.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

August 13 2014 20:23 GMT

#4209

On August 14 2014 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EDIT: I mean, i don't even know what happened in this game, but i assumed someone got lynched in LYLO because they didn't put effort to the game.

Something like that, yeah. ^^

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

August 13 2014 20:25 GMT

#4210

On August 14 2014 05:14 marvellosity wrote:
i was kinda compromised that evening so i shouldn't have been making decisions on anything past about 2h before deadline.

Was that when you so weirdly commented on Kush questioning me? Felt so off.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 13 2014 20:41 GMT

#4211

On August 14 2014 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Then you played well in LYLO and townies didn't. It does not change the fact they should have not NOT been lynched if they didn't play right?

I mean tbh it's probably unfair to Cav to say he didn't put effort into LYLO but the heuristic was totally off lol. Like if you had just done POE based on "how hard do they appear to be trying to solve the game at LYLO" you would have 2 mafia in your town pile. RIP me for basically doing that...

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

August 13 2014 20:43 GMT

#4212

On August 14 2014 05:41 Eden1892 wrote:

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Yes, but to be honest you still lynch Haru first no questions asked.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 13 2014 21:29 GMT

#4213

for sure, that was a preeeeetty big mistake LOL

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

August 14 2014 03:45 GMT

#4214

On August 14 2014 05:23 justanothertownie wrote:

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Something like that, yeah. ^^

Not at all what happened.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

August 14 2014 03:47 GMT

#4215

Seriously, fuck anyone that says I wasn't doing anything this game.

When I did stuff, all of you shitheads ignored me and called me dumb/useless. And then I wound up being 100% right and all of you worthless tryhards posting 50 bajillion pages of useless bullshit are still shitting on me even though you were all fucking wrong and refused to listen when I told you why you were wrong.

BUT A FOR EFFORT GOOD JOB TEAM. LETS ALL TAKE HOME A FUCKING PARTICIPATION TROPHY. GOOD JOB.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 14 2014 03:49 GMT

#4216

I don't think a single person has said the town played well this game so far. Lots of props have been deservedly given to the scumteam but it's pretty clear town didn't play well. No one's talking about participation trophies...