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justanothertownie
16308 Posts
But as you said poofter didn't address the real problems here. It is not the shot on koshi. Banks. Look at marvs accusation, look at what we discussed recently. A main point for me is your behaviour towards Ace. You listed him as scumread but never pushed him. You did not vote him despite me pushing him 2 days ago but you DID vote gumshoe who had not returned prior to that. People who list mafia as secondary scumreads are very often mafia themselves. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 07:29 marvellosity wrote: I'm going to vote gumshoe or you, poof. I'm not voting VA today. Actually the Koshi shot is kinda a trivial part of why I think you're mafia. I kinda explained how i felt the evolution of your reads on me/ace/VE weren't natural, how you never went for Ace even though I'd made scum-cases on two of your scumtargets (ace/VE) and yet you called me mafia. I find that hard to get over. Even though I don't think anything you've written is massively townie just now, I'm tempted just to kill gumshoe after all, even though I've been hardpushing your lynch. The thing is, right, I find it practically impossible that you and gumshoe are both town, and therefore the push on Vayne feels... not correct to me. Dunno how other people feel but I could maybe vote gumshoe after all. Or I could leave my vote on poofter. What does everyone else think? Fair enough I know that other people had addressed the shot. The day you subbed in I had VE/prphlz/Ace as my biggest scum reads I think (I might be getting my days mixed up) I was calling for one of Caller/Ace to get shot that day but it was the first day he actually played which was... odd. I wasn't sure what to make of it but I felt he was a good shot for Jat so saying I wasn't pushing against him is false. VE came out with somtehing that I explained in a previous post that made me think he was really townie and that left me to you and I really thought that the way the no lynch day happened it looked like you were very much likely to be scum BUT not with Ace. Since Ace flipped scum yesterday that makes you town to me. Can you explain exactly what was unnatural I'd like to clear that up because as far as I'm concerned if we lynch Gum/Va/Palmer in any order I don't see us losing the game. Basically I just need everyone to read me as town and its auto (only hang up would be WoS) Like if you're only lynching between me and gum is it! I know I'm town and as I detailed earlier he is likely to be with the others as neither voted him the day that we were CFD off Marv and onto Gum. OMG I just looked at this. The day we went onto gum the only ones not voting were Slam (out of posts) Marv, Ace confirmed scum, gum for obvious reasons, VA/Palmer. + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2014 12:01 Hapahauli wrote: Vote Count: Ace (1) - WaveofShadow (0) - VisceraEyes (0) - Marvellosity (1) - Palmar (1) - Alakaslam gumshoe (5) - WaveofShadow, austinmcc, justanothertownie, tehpoofter, VisceraEyes tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, Palmar vayneauthority (1) - gumshoe Day ends in . There are 11 players alive, and it takes 6 to lynch. | ||
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justanothertownie
16308 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Although Vayne forcing a nolynch on gumshoe is shit. Palmar is excused because the gumshoe wagon happened at like 4am his time or something. V v tempting to lynch gumshoe simply because you're at least trying though.Would like input from others. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 07:47 justanothertownie wrote: I am also down to lynch scumshoe. I don't know his scumgame but if it also looks like this he can die in a fire as far as I am concerned. At least poofter is playing the game again. But as you said poofter didn't address the real problems here. It is not the shot on koshi. Banks. Look at marvs accusation, look at what we discussed recently. A main point for me is your behaviour towards Ace. You listed him as scumread but never pushed him. You did not vote him despite me pushing him 2 days ago but you DID vote gumshoe who had not returned prior to that. People who list mafia as secondary scumreads are very often mafia themselves. I understand JAT and part of it is reputation for me. I honestly thought that ACE would be better at mafia than he was. Like he wrote that manafesto. I was expecting if Ace was mafia some sort of big play or like at least more than just lurk until you get lynched mafia. So I did think he was scum but in my head I'm thinking "he is too good for this right?" Also the only day where I didn't want to lynch him was the day we NL and thats because I was tunnelling hard on Marv. I was behind VE and thought they were unlikely together. I was however that day saying he would be a good shot along with CAller.... JAt Look at my post on the votes on the no lynch day. Look at who is voting what and more importantly WHO ISNT VOTING VA/Palmer..... Va lurks like all day and then suddenly just comes in and adds his two cents when I show up and start actually playing as town!!! He is scared his misslynch is falling through. Boys I think we got em. We lynch gum/VA/Palmer any order and I don't see how town loses this one! | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 07:53 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, probably... I mean I don't want to lose to scum gumshoe if he is playing this way. That would kinda suck. But poofter you will have to be convincing if you want to make a switch happen today. And it won't be on VA it seems. Like in my mind they could all be scum. God if we don't make a switch then were dead if its all three btw. If its VA/Palmer/Gum then we lose if I'm lynched. That last vote post scared me when I looked at it. Like palmer has the time thing but why does VA not switch? I agree VA not happeneing today despite claiming blue like 9 days ago and not really claiming what it is (unless I missed it) is still alive and kicking and hasnt done anything. I'll vote gumshoe of course as he is of the 3. If you lynch me you are lynching town. ##Vote Gumshoe | ||
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justanothertownie
16308 Posts
On May 16 2014 07:57 Tehpoofter wrote: I understand JAT and part of it is reputation for me. I honestly thought that ACE would be better at mafia than he was. Like he wrote that manafesto. I was expecting if Ace was mafia some sort of big play or like at least more than just lurk until you get lynched mafia. So I did think he was scum but in my head I'm thinking "he is too good for this right?" Also the only day where I didn't want to lynch him was the day we NL and thats because I was tunnelling hard on Marv. I was behind VE and thought they were unlikely together. I was however that day saying he would be a good shot along with CAller.... Meh, the other guy who repeated what I said was scum... I am torn on this. I want to believe you and tbh there are some things that point slightly towards town here (the timing of your vote on oats for example) but I also know that you are good at defending yourself from lynches. Palmar and Vayne both on your wagon doesn't feel good though. Hm... | ||
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justanothertownie
16308 Posts
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 07:57 marvellosity wrote: because I made cases on both your other scumreads and you ended up voting for me and not for Ace. You basically totally ignored the Ace thing. It looks terrible. Like, you didn't explore the option that I was town and ace was mafia on that day, even though I was pushing Ace quite hard - I got nothing from you even though Ace was one of your scumsuspects. Bleh. Although Vayne forcing a nolynch on gumshoe is shit. Palmar is excused because the gumshoe wagon happened at like 4am his time or something. V v tempting to lynch gumshoe simply because you're at least trying though.Would like input from others. I agree but I'm going to have my reads change and as I felt VE was someone I had come around on I was looking at his reads and in my head if I think VE is town and he thinks marv is scummy and marv thinks these other two people are scummy maybe I'm wrong abotu Ace too because up until that day I had VE As scummy. So I don't understand how thats not a logical process of thought. PLUS we had a vote on you CFD away at the last second to a no lynch. Like that is really really shady. When Ace flips mafia that changes things though and you were right on him VE was wrong on you and I was right the first time on Ace. Like If I get lynched and town loses because of that I'll be upset because I feel like that logic train makes sense to me. What can I clarify further? I'll go find the posts where I was telling Jat that ACe was a good shot. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 08:07 justanothertownie wrote: Meh, the other guy who repeated what I said was scum... I am torn on this. I want to believe you and tbh there are some things that point slightly towards town here (the timing of your vote on oats for example) but I also know that you are good at defending yourself from lynches. Palmar and Vayne both on your wagon doesn't feel good though. Hm... Who am I mafia with here? Like the only team that would remotely make sense in my mind would be me and gumshoe. So lets lynch him first and if we lynch VA/Palmer and we get a town flip from either then I should be reevaluated but I think they could ALL THREE BE MAFIA look at that marv no lynch day. Like people fucking off and not voting on someone who posted like gumshoe did. I've done more to figure out the game than any of those four by far. VA does nothing, gumshoe posts maybe 20 times. Palmer plays like a troll pushes on ace but doesnt sits on wagons instead of securing a lynch. Like I've been talking to people interacting pushing lynches (correctly on Oats) trying to solve the game. Like my defense is good cause I'm town. That vote on oats when I pushed him from no shoot to shoot you really want to lynch the guy that did that? I could have literally saved a townies life with my vote! I agree talk to others and stuff but I think this game is won if we lynch VA/Palmer/Gum if you guys end up misslynching me then just pray there aren't three cause thats gg. Even sleep is better than lynching me in that case although I relaly would hate to waste it this early. if we need it later. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Caller, Palmar, and Ace all had zero or non-existent reasoning for trying to lynch me. That didn't give you pause? It didn't give you pause that a wagon on me built on nothing for no reason, and that I had come into the game clearly trying quite hard and trying to lynch two of your scumreads? And the scumread you found townier (VE) I stopped trying to lynch and I tried to lynch Ace instead. Literally the only reason you thought VE was town was because I made a case on him and he told me to fuck off. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: gumshoe | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Vote Count: tehpoofter (4) - Vayneauthority, VisceraEyes, Palmar, Justanothertownie gumshoe (3) - WaveofShadow, tehpoofter, marvellosity vayneauthority (1) - gumshoe Not Voting (0) - Day ends in . There are 8 players alive, and it takes 5 to lynch. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
I think it was obvious when I backed off and picked any other lynch closer to the deadline. I'm perfectly fine with killing gumshoe, thank you based austinmcc ##vote gumshoe | ||
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justanothertownie
16308 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: gumshoe | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 08:34 Palmar wrote: To be clear my vote on marv was a troll vote, both of them. I think it was obvious when I backed off and picked any other lynch closer to the deadline. I'm perfectly fine with killing gumshoe, thank you based austinmcc ##vote gumshoe Why didnt you switch to Ace yesterday? | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Vote Count: tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, VisceraEyes, gumshoe (5) - WaveofShadow, tehpoofter, marvellosity, Palmar, Justanothertownie vayneauthority (1) - gumshoe Not Voting (0) - Day ends in . There are 8 players alive, and it takes 5 to lynch. | ||
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