EPTOn May 08 2014 07:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
If Ace actually nuked Caller (doesn't seem likely since mod posted since that without clarifying) that would be the most useful thing he's done all game. Man if Ace and Caller are both scum the "Fake a nuke" scum meta would be so real.
Marv is here! Glad we didn't get a modkill, Marv when you get around to it why did prphlz push on Foolish the day we had a cop claim with a 50/50 scum? Also What in the world is Ace doing this game? What about VE? How good/bad was my shot on Koshi? Who should Jat shoot?
@WoS I think we need to talk about the semi lurkers people like VE, VA, Palmer. Also the super lurkers like Caller Gumshoe Ace. I feel like there is a couple mafia in this group. I think prphlz was leaning scummy tbh outside of that group I read everyone else pretty townie. I also read Palmer as town for what its worth him and you both did the same thing where you perked up after lynches. I have a pretty strong town circle I think. If JAt shoots into a lurker prefer Ace or Caller then we can lynch someone like VE VA and I think there is a high likelyhood we hit 1-2 mafia. I think the only way that scum is in a good spot is if Austin or Jat is actually scum. Otherwise I think town wins this game, so rather than throwing dirty on people that have been playing townie this game imo we should look at the people not playing towards their wincon.
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If Ace actually nuked Caller (doesn't seem likely since mod posted since that without clarifying) that would be the most useful thing he's done all game. Man if Ace and Caller are both scum the "Fake a nuke" scum meta would be so real.
Marv is here! Glad we didn't get a modkill, Marv when you get around to it why did prphlz push on Foolish the day we had a cop claim with a 50/50 scum? Also What in the world is Ace doing this game? What about VE? How good/bad was my shot on Koshi? Who should Jat shoot?
@WoS I think we need to talk about the semi lurkers people like VE, VA, Palmer. Also the super lurkers like Caller Gumshoe Ace. I feel like there is a couple mafia in this group. I think prphlz was leaning scummy tbh outside of that group I read everyone else pretty townie. I also read Palmer as town for what its worth him and you both did the same thing where you perked up after lynches. I have a pretty strong town circle I think. If JAt shoots into a lurker prefer Ace or Caller then we can lynch someone like VE VA and I think there is a high likelyhood we hit 1-2 mafia. I think the only way that scum is in a good spot is if Austin or Jat is actually scum. Otherwise I think town wins this game, so rather than throwing dirty on people that have been playing townie this game imo we should look at the people not playing towards their wincon.
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On May 09 2014 09:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
Can you explain to me why a Mafia WoS sees his partners dying off and decides "I'm going to start trying harder and seem more excited about the game" he had basically the same feel in posting tone that you did where you suddenly got happier because the game was going in towns favor. He goes from sorta defeated to Alright maybe we got this! Why does ScumWoS do this? How is VE/VA/Caller more town than WoS?
@Austin I don't have QT access but that instantly suspicious thing that you brought up reminds me of Catastrophe where I PMd VE during the PM phase and was hit with nothing but a wall about how he couldn't trust me. (He was traitor in that game) So when you said that it makes me actually feel like he is more Scummy.
@slam/Austin/Jat/Wos/Palmer how is marv's scum game? Cause I had a pretty decent scum read on prphlz but Marv seems really town its hard to think they're the same "person" in the game cause htye seem like different alignments to me. Is marv good enough at scum to look townie like this?
@Jat I think Ace/Caller are both fine shots neither has a connection to others so their flips are not as productive as someone who has said more than 2 sentences. I'm not wholly opposed to holding a shot. I will say that if I still had my shot shooting both caller and Ace would be a good day I feel like we hit a scum a large majority of the time. Caller asking everyone to role claim was really really weird to me it seems to benefit scum more than anyone else.
@Caller can you explain the benefits of role claiming today? Why is it pro town and what information do you hope to gather?
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Can you explain to me why a Mafia WoS sees his partners dying off and decides "I'm going to start trying harder and seem more excited about the game" he had basically the same feel in posting tone that you did where you suddenly got happier because the game was going in towns favor. He goes from sorta defeated to Alright maybe we got this! Why does ScumWoS do this? How is VE/VA/Caller more town than WoS?
@Austin I don't have QT access but that instantly suspicious thing that you brought up reminds me of Catastrophe where I PMd VE during the PM phase and was hit with nothing but a wall about how he couldn't trust me. (He was traitor in that game) So when you said that it makes me actually feel like he is more Scummy.
@slam/Austin/Jat/Wos/Palmer how is marv's scum game? Cause I had a pretty decent scum read on prphlz but Marv seems really town its hard to think they're the same "person" in the game cause htye seem like different alignments to me. Is marv good enough at scum to look townie like this?
@Jat I think Ace/Caller are both fine shots neither has a connection to others so their flips are not as productive as someone who has said more than 2 sentences. I'm not wholly opposed to holding a shot. I will say that if I still had my shot shooting both caller and Ace would be a good day I feel like we hit a scum a large majority of the time. Caller asking everyone to role claim was really really weird to me it seems to benefit scum more than anyone else.
@Caller can you explain the benefits of role claiming today? Why is it pro town and what information do you hope to gather?
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On May 09 2014 09:50 Tehpoofter wrote:
The good kind of course. The part that stuck out to me was his push on Foolishness the day that Ceph came out. I just can't understand how that is townie. Austin seemed to think so too so maybe I'm just missing it but he seemed to not care at all like he already knew the info. Can you explain why that push was townie? He also was tunneling Foolish the day Oats got lynched. Thats my hold up with him/you because your posts have all seemed townie but he was off to me. I haven't seen his or your scum games though so I can speak to neither and people talk about you being really good so if he was playing bad scum you could be playing good scum.
Also What do you make of Ace's interaction with Palmer? and Caller's "everyone mass claim"? I wish we could shoot both of them tbh. I feel like Ace is trying to buddy Palmer after pushing him for days and Caller says not a lot for the whole game then says "hey can a bunch of roles out that would be nice"
Can some of the quite people please seem town you can't all be scum? Thanks
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The good kind of course. The part that stuck out to me was his push on Foolishness the day that Ceph came out. I just can't understand how that is townie. Austin seemed to think so too so maybe I'm just missing it but he seemed to not care at all like he already knew the info. Can you explain why that push was townie? He also was tunneling Foolish the day Oats got lynched. Thats my hold up with him/you because your posts have all seemed townie but he was off to me. I haven't seen his or your scum games though so I can speak to neither and people talk about you being really good so if he was playing bad scum you could be playing good scum.
Also What do you make of Ace's interaction with Palmer? and Caller's "everyone mass claim"? I wish we could shoot both of them tbh. I feel like Ace is trying to buddy Palmer after pushing him for days and Caller says not a lot for the whole game then says "hey can a bunch of roles out that would be nice"
Can some of the quite people please seem town you can't all be scum? Thanks
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This is the first post where I say that CAller might be a better shot than Ace until then I had all been about shooting Ace. I realize this makes me look bad but I'm not going to leave something like this out cause I'm town and this was my thought process and I think that part of the post is important.
On May 09 2014 18:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
@VE So you're saying that as traitor you actually want to play more townie? I really don't understand this logic I mean yes you want to appear town and work the game out but my question is why the town circle thing as traitor? Like for your own benefit? What makes Marv the correct lynch today? I mean aside from he is reading you wrong what if he is just reading you wrong?
@Austin thanks for pointing that out after rereading it I can see that as being more townie of him to do my only issue is that was day 1/night 1 since then I haven't seem the same gusto just a whole bunch of "I'm town I'm town marv misreads me as mafia" I need to reread tomorrow on this.
@Palmer I'm surprised this is the first time you've called me scum today I thought after yesterday it was super clear that I was the lynch (supposedly based on Foolishness' flip but I think you stated town or mafia I was still mafia). What took you so long to call me mafia today?
@marv what made you change your mind on me? Is it because I said I thought you might be scummy based on your predecessor? Like aren't you above that kind of "this guy called me mafia so he is mafia" level of play? What do you think that the moment you call me not town Palmer hops up to agree with you?
@Jat where you at man? What do you think about hte VE/Marv/WoS thing going on, I feel like there is at least one mafia in there (probably not WoS) or a scum team of like some combination of Ace/Caller/VA/gum is just sitting back and laughing today and coasting to an easy victory.
With that point in mind I'd like to hear from VE/Marv/WoS who should Jat shoot today? Should he shoot? I'll go first. I think Caller is my preferred shot because of his lack of interest in the game/ability to figure it out. Ace being a close second because of the way he has interacted with Palmer in that He is scum he is scum he is scum then nvm he gave me Dota shit he must be town. Gumshoe would be a kill you make instead of the mod at this point.
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@VE So you're saying that as traitor you actually want to play more townie? I really don't understand this logic I mean yes you want to appear town and work the game out but my question is why the town circle thing as traitor? Like for your own benefit? What makes Marv the correct lynch today? I mean aside from he is reading you wrong what if he is just reading you wrong?
@Austin thanks for pointing that out after rereading it I can see that as being more townie of him to do my only issue is that was day 1/night 1 since then I haven't seem the same gusto just a whole bunch of "I'm town I'm town marv misreads me as mafia" I need to reread tomorrow on this.
@Palmer I'm surprised this is the first time you've called me scum today I thought after yesterday it was super clear that I was the lynch (supposedly based on Foolishness' flip but I think you stated town or mafia I was still mafia). What took you so long to call me mafia today?
@marv what made you change your mind on me? Is it because I said I thought you might be scummy based on your predecessor? Like aren't you above that kind of "this guy called me mafia so he is mafia" level of play? What do you think that the moment you call me not town Palmer hops up to agree with you?
@Jat where you at man? What do you think about hte VE/Marv/WoS thing going on, I feel like there is at least one mafia in there (probably not WoS) or a scum team of like some combination of Ace/Caller/VA/gum is just sitting back and laughing today and coasting to an easy victory.
With that point in mind I'd like to hear from VE/Marv/WoS who should Jat shoot today? Should he shoot? I'll go first. I think Caller is my preferred shot because of his lack of interest in the game/ability to figure it out. Ace being a close second because of the way he has interacted with Palmer in that He is scum he is scum he is scum then nvm he gave me Dota shit he must be town. Gumshoe would be a kill you make instead of the mod at this point.
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AT marv I get It I was wrong on you but do you think me being wrong on you after you sub in for prphlz who I think plays scummy just in general for me makes me mafia? I will admit the wagon on you did give me pause but what did it for me was that you weren't lynched and no lynch happened.
I think gumshoe is a fine lynch if he flips town VA/Palmer and we win.
I have no clue how many posts I'm at hopefully not near cap. I'm a bit worried how fast Palmer switched (hopefully its just a bus or there are only 2)
I wish other people are around to give some input on what they think.
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