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Palmar
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cristi1226
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Vote: tehpoofter Give me a reason | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I'm confirmed town if he flips mafia as I've been wanting to kill him since the koshi shot. I'm confirmed town if he flips town for voting VA first today and trying to avoid a bad lynch. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On May 15 2014 07:33 VayneAuthority wrote: honestly that ace lynch actually makes me and palmar look better not the other way around. what kind of idiots would we be to try and force the no lynch with zero coordination from our team so 1. it doesnt even happen 2. we now look like complete shit 3. Ace made zero effort to go against his lynch look at the people that voted for ace about halfway through/towards the end of the lynch and voila, mafia. Great analysis Vayne. Would be even greater if you would tell us the NAMES of the people you think are suspicious. SInce you are voting poofter. And poofter was not on Ace. On May 15 2014 09:09 marvellosity wrote: gumshoe everything you write is just terrible. +1 On May 15 2014 10:18 WaveofShadow wrote: And if he ain't marv, we may very well lose so you need to think about it a little more carefully. #Vote: gumshoe If you think so tell us why poofter is town right now. Since you obviously thought about it a little more carefully you must have reasons to assume that. On May 15 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote: ##vote tehpoofter I'm confirmed town if he flips mafia as I've been wanting to kill him since the koshi shot. I'm confirmed town if he flips town for voting VA first today and trying to avoid a bad lynch. You are confirmed lazy at most.  | ||
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
On May 15 2014 10:50 gumshoe wrote: Hey! I played fine that game T_T not my fault you people mislynched me for dumb reasons. Dont twist my entire history as a player just because you really want me to be scum (like you always do and guess what, doesn't really pan out) I mean, you want me to post but any time I do you just twist what I say back on to me. I find poof town for his derpy shot and play and vayne scum for his dispassionate laziness. What the hell is wrong with those reads? What do you want, a 20 page essay on every single game Vayne has ever played? For what? So all the scum and town who want me dead can yell at me until I go away? I asked you to work with me and you basically told me to fuck off. Then everyone spouts shit about how I'm getting wisdomd of the crowds every game after this and you expect my shitty disinterested play to improve after all that? Sigh, worst part is, you being so utterly consistently wrong about me is what tells me your town T_T so I cant even push you back. Honestly I'm just here to see Vayne flip red. Hes the only person in this game that i pretty much know is scum. Of course your not even going to consider that purely on the basis that I'm the one talking about it, thats bias bro, your biased, stop being biased. If you have been mislynched day1 you haven't played well at all. If everyone just spouts that you will be WOTCed then maybe there is a reason for that? Maybe it's not that you are right and everyone else is wrong, hm? If you don't want to lynch poofter you will have to come up with something better than "the shot makes him look suspicious". I wish I still had my shot... | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
How did you get that I think poofter is town from that I just worry is all, in case yoyu haven't noticed | ||
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justanothertownie
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Vote Count: tehpoofter (5) - Vayneauthority, marvellosity, VisceraEyes, Palmar, Justanothertownie gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow vayneauthority (1) - gumshoe Not Voting (1) - tehpoofter Day ends in . There are 8 players alive, and it takes 5 to lynch. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 16 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote: Well, you are voting for gumshoe so you must think gumshoe is more likely scum than poofter. Explain. Nothing to explain, cause I'm almost certain I already did. They can both be scum and then we win, I just think after looking back at gumshoes previous games he is more likely to flip red than poofter, and I wanted to be sure that marv is sure. Meh its not like words or anything matters today, the lynch was set ages ago. The question then becomes is it because scum wanted it this way or because they had no choice? I'm hoping the latter. NEWAYZ I change my vote when I get home latar | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Also I just played the worst chess game of my life so if poof doesn't flip red I'm gonna flip my shit. Probably in private where none of you can see, so it's not even relevant. Mainly I'm just posting because I have like ten posts left and I want to use a few for no good reason. Beep boop. Di beep boop. Boop di beep. To be fair there was like no kickback on the Ace lynch and he was scumsies. Game is so dull because atm we're just lynching and there's no... anything. I wonder if Ace didn't fight his lynch because poof was the main alternative. Who knows. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
 So basically I said fuck it and haven't even looked at this page in days. Caught up now and seeing that we're about to lynch a town so this sucks/exciting I've never been mislynched on forums yet and don't plan on it. I hope people are alive to get an actual lynch though. So I'm going to spend 1 maybe 2 posts on defending myself before trying to figure out who the actual mafia is. First I'm town vigi and I shot Koshi which seems to be the biggest thing people are hung up on me for. So if you all remember the first actual day of this game I was out of town and wasn't here at all for the game and almost got replaced I just happened to log on right after I got home and stopped myself from getting replaced and the post that was up at the time was who had been lynched. I looked at the wagons and the vote count before even reading a single other word of the game. So I had a unique view of day 1 knowing what was going to happen. So reading through I became VERY suspicious of anyone who was pushing for the SnB lynch at the end of the day I made a large post where I FoS Koshi, Foolish (two main wagon leaders of the push) Oats (the opposing wagon) Slam (slam made that rando shot on yamato):+ Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 20:48 Tehpoofter wrote: So this game started good to know. Been catching up all day. So I'm going to say I came into reading the thread during the night knowing S&B's alignment I didn't read a word before looking at the day post. Where I'm at so far: In the red corner we have! Koshi Foolishness Oats Alakaslam (reads to come on these in later posts) Light Reds: WoS WoS - This is an associative read and is based on the fact I strongly feel Koshi to be scum. When Koshi gave his big list of everyone in town he said that WoS "town cuz good posts" WoS didn't respond to this but when prphlz said that he was in his "trying" list he said "I'm not even sure I could consider my activity... "trying""+ Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I'm not even sure I could consider my activity so after 'trying.' snb not scum foolishness nice meta evidence from a year ago when SnB literally JUST played a really solid town game where he explains himself in paragraphs like you said. Dunno who I wanna vote. Getting weird feels from VE ---- mebbe because I'm not used to him actually trying lately? BH has actually decided to play this game which is non-indicative but his aggressive ego push on SnB is a style he tends to use more often as scum than town. Also his 'non-care' games lately have been more from town though obvs he likes to change stuff up Dunno My posting kinda shit so far Why not point it out on Koshi's list too? he also soft defends Koshi with geript, He also said my particular favorite line to say when I'm scum "Man I wish I were scum this game" + Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh look I have a post left. Man if I were scum I'd be so happy to be in this game. I think my name has been mentioned/people have talked to me like twice. Don't really blame people though cause I feel exceptionally unless this time around Take palmar off scumlist, mebbe add Oats? Though a lot of first day choices come down to town v town so hmm Also should look at vote analysis Scum don't vote together D1 if they can avoid it for the most part so I'd look at where votes were before the mad scramble for consolidation started...? I think I'm speaking about when Oats and snb we're it'd at 8 I think VA could be scum this time around---looks like he's trying to be more useless (town VA) now after being called out for being try hardy early (Scum VA) Though I'm not sure what it means if we both voted sandroba. Probably doesn't mean anything other than he wanted to put his vote somewhere his scu m buddies weren't. Also pretty convenient of him to drop hammer. And none of that 'if I were scum I wouldn't drop hammer' shit cause there are a ton of people who would I'll be around after deadline to talk if anyone cares about me caus I won't be dying tonight, ill be around till we lose at endgame Its light red because if I'm wrong on Koshi I think WoS stuff can isn't as bad like I did like most of his posts those just stood out to me as odd. In the green corner we have! austin Austin is in a land of his own in town aside from Tehpoofter he's my topest town! He was actively trying to push against the ML on S&B he was asking lots and lots of questions and is addressing almost everyone in the thread. He was also doing so in a small amount of posts after reading day 1 I thought to myself "Wow how did austin not cap on posts" Then i looked at his filter and he made 19 posts and gave 6 away. To me he felt like the strongest presence in the game but he didn't even make the full posts allotted to him he gave away 1/5th of them. Basically he said a lot in few words which I think is very townie to do scum say little with a lot of words imo. Caller The town reads fall off from here but I think what Caller did (once I got to the part that the nuke was fake) was that he started discussion HELLA early in a gmae with limited postings this was super pro town in my opinion. I think mafia would loved to have rued in the chaos and wasted posts of a game starting he also didn't endanger town and even said that the nuke wasn't real before it hit and Palmer had done the anti-town thing he was claiming. MafiaCaller would have waited until after Palmer did whatever anti-town thing he was going to do (assuming in this case of course Palmer is town) then say "it was just fake bro calm down" instead to me it read kinda like "ok lets not let things get out of hand here I just wanted people to talk" Odin His first post was exactly what I was thinking in my read through. + Show Spoiler + On April 26 2014 14:52 OdinOfPergo wrote: So you're giving up your "if I'm town Palmar is scum" heuristic geript? These people are a lighter green Ceph Palmer Ace Ceph - Made a big post at the start of the day instead of the end he also seemed far more confident than he did in cell mafia as scum to me, this isn't enough for a solid read though. Palmer - His reaction to be a big baby and hold town hostage seems more town than mafia to me but I have a hard time or reading him as mafia. I do however think that as scum Palmer might give up and do the same thing but I feel like he would have screwed with town more. Ace - He called out Foolishness on his weak meta case against SnB and I felt had a townie mindset on the Caller/Palmer situation I think he is wrong on Palmer but he did try to push his lynch on Palmer which is a townie thing. My reason for not putting him higher is that he replied to the post about him not talking about NBA/posting gifs by posting a gif which could be a joke or mafia being like "shit I better give out my town tell thanks for reminding me" So that was the main thing I felt people found scummy about me I will look over other points of if you guys have questions please ask. Other evidence I'm town aside from the fact that I've been trying to figure out the game, talk with everyone, ask questions and find scum. IF you look at my posts they're almost all about who I think is scummy or townie. Also when I was rereading prphlz (before I got salty) I realized his night post where he broke down the votes that went onto Oats I was the one that pushed Oats to majority meaning as we now know Oats as scum was not able to shoot as he had majority so if he saw the wagon swinging I basically saved a town from getting shot. I really don't want to waste anymore time looking at myself and want to actually play and find the last mafia. I will however take questions of course but the case on me is basically the shot and I think my thought process was pretty good (maybe flawed conclusion) but from my perspective I felt the shot was good. 1st post. | ||
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
On May 16 2014 06:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Nothing to explain, cause I'm almost certain I already did. They can both be scum and then we win, I just think after looking back at gumshoes previous games he is more likely to flip red than poofter, and I wanted to be sure that marv is sure. So you changed your meta read on gumshoe? Ok, that's fine. Still, if you think he is more likely to flip red than poofter there has to be something redeeming about poofter, no? You had him as scumread for ages and if there is something that suddenly points towards town for you then the time to say so is NOW. | ||
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justanothertownie
16319 Posts
On May 16 2014 06:57 Tehpoofter wrote: Uh oh boys. Were in trouble. So first off someone pointed it out before as to why I was absent (they didn't know they were but they were) I was salty as fuck about being a donkey and losing to Hf/Kosh with my first mishammer on forum in another game So basically I said fuck it and haven't even looked at this page in days. Caught up now and seeing that we're about to lynch a town so this sucks/exciting I've never been mislynched on forums yet and don't plan on it. I hope people are alive to get an actual lynch though. So I'm going to spend 1 maybe 2 posts on defending myself before trying to figure out who the actual mafia is. First I'm town vigi and I shot Koshi which seems to be the biggest thing people are hung up on me for. So if you all remember the first actual day of this game I was out of town and wasn't here at all for the game and almost got replaced I just happened to log on right after I got home and stopped myself from getting replaced and the post that was up at the time was who had been lynched. I looked at the wagons and the vote count before even reading a single other word of the game. So I had a unique view of day 1 knowing what was going to happen. So reading through I became VERY suspicious of anyone who was pushing for the SnB lynch at the end of the day I made a large post where I FoS Koshi, Foolish (two main wagon leaders of the push) Oats (the opposing wagon) Slam (slam made that rando shot on yamato):+ Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 20:48 Tehpoofter wrote: So this game started good to know. Been catching up all day. So I'm going to say I came into reading the thread during the night knowing S&B's alignment I didn't read a word before looking at the day post. Where I'm at so far: In the red corner we have! Koshi Foolishness Oats Alakaslam (reads to come on these in later posts) Light Reds: WoS WoS - This is an associative read and is based on the fact I strongly feel Koshi to be scum. When Koshi gave his big list of everyone in town he said that WoS "town cuz good posts" WoS didn't respond to this but when prphlz said that he was in his "trying" list he said "I'm not even sure I could consider my activity... "trying""+ Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I'm not even sure I could consider my activity so after 'trying.' snb not scum foolishness nice meta evidence from a year ago when SnB literally JUST played a really solid town game where he explains himself in paragraphs like you said. Dunno who I wanna vote. Getting weird feels from VE ---- mebbe because I'm not used to him actually trying lately? BH has actually decided to play this game which is non-indicative but his aggressive ego push on SnB is a style he tends to use more often as scum than town. Also his 'non-care' games lately have been more from town though obvs he likes to change stuff up Dunno My posting kinda shit so far Why not point it out on Koshi's list too? he also soft defends Koshi with geript, He also said my particular favorite line to say when I'm scum "Man I wish I were scum this game" + Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh look I have a post left. Man if I were scum I'd be so happy to be in this game. I think my name has been mentioned/people have talked to me like twice. Don't really blame people though cause I feel exceptionally unless this time around Take palmar off scumlist, mebbe add Oats? Though a lot of first day choices come down to town v town so hmm Also should look at vote analysis Scum don't vote together D1 if they can avoid it for the most part so I'd look at where votes were before the mad scramble for consolidation started...? I think I'm speaking about when Oats and snb we're it'd at 8 I think VA could be scum this time around---looks like he's trying to be more useless (town VA) now after being called out for being try hardy early (Scum VA) Though I'm not sure what it means if we both voted sandroba. Probably doesn't mean anything other than he wanted to put his vote somewhere his scu m buddies weren't. Also pretty convenient of him to drop hammer. And none of that 'if I were scum I wouldn't drop hammer' shit cause there are a ton of people who would I'll be around after deadline to talk if anyone cares about me caus I won't be dying tonight, ill be around till we lose at endgame Its light red because if I'm wrong on Koshi I think WoS stuff can isn't as bad like I did like most of his posts those just stood out to me as odd. In the green corner we have! austin Austin is in a land of his own in town aside from Tehpoofter he's my topest town! He was actively trying to push against the ML on S&B he was asking lots and lots of questions and is addressing almost everyone in the thread. He was also doing so in a small amount of posts after reading day 1 I thought to myself "Wow how did austin not cap on posts" Then i looked at his filter and he made 19 posts and gave 6 away. To me he felt like the strongest presence in the game but he didn't even make the full posts allotted to him he gave away 1/5th of them. Basically he said a lot in few words which I think is very townie to do scum say little with a lot of words imo. Caller The town reads fall off from here but I think what Caller did (once I got to the part that the nuke was fake) was that he started discussion HELLA early in a gmae with limited postings this was super pro town in my opinion. I think mafia would loved to have rued in the chaos and wasted posts of a game starting he also didn't endanger town and even said that the nuke wasn't real before it hit and Palmer had done the anti-town thing he was claiming. MafiaCaller would have waited until after Palmer did whatever anti-town thing he was going to do (assuming in this case of course Palmer is town) then say "it was just fake bro calm down" instead to me it read kinda like "ok lets not let things get out of hand here I just wanted people to talk" Odin His first post was exactly what I was thinking in my read through. + Show Spoiler + On April 26 2014 14:52 OdinOfPergo wrote: So you're giving up your "if I'm town Palmar is scum" heuristic geript? These people are a lighter green Ceph Palmer Ace Ceph - Made a big post at the start of the day instead of the end he also seemed far more confident than he did in cell mafia as scum to me, this isn't enough for a solid read though. Palmer - His reaction to be a big baby and hold town hostage seems more town than mafia to me but I have a hard time or reading him as mafia. I do however think that as scum Palmer might give up and do the same thing but I feel like he would have screwed with town more. Ace - He called out Foolishness on his weak meta case against SnB and I felt had a townie mindset on the Caller/Palmer situation I think he is wrong on Palmer but he did try to push his lynch on Palmer which is a townie thing. My reason for not putting him higher is that he replied to the post about him not talking about NBA/posting gifs by posting a gif which could be a joke or mafia being like "shit I better give out my town tell thanks for reminding me" So that was the main thing I felt people found scummy about me I will look over other points of if you guys have questions please ask. Other evidence I'm town aside from the fact that I've been trying to figure out the game, talk with everyone, ask questions and find scum. IF you look at my posts they're almost all about who I think is scummy or townie. Also when I was rereading prphlz (before I got salty) I realized his night post where he broke down the votes that went onto Oats I was the one that pushed Oats to majority meaning as we now know Oats as scum was not able to shoot as he had majority so if he saw the wagon swinging I basically saved a town from getting shot. I really don't want to waste anymore time looking at myself and want to actually play and find the last mafia. I will however take questions of course but the case on me is basically the shot and I think my thought process was pretty good (maybe flawed conclusion) but from my perspective I felt the shot was good. 1st post. Ok. The more important part - as you obviously realize - is who you think the remaining scum are and why. If you are town you are in a unique position right now. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
VE is still town for me that tell I have on him from the way he spoke basically being in your face. He also has woken up and attempted to solve the game. (I made a bigger point on this the other day) JAT again his push on foolishness was really wrong but really pationate. As far as I'm concerned these are my 3 lock towns that I wouldn't even consider until final 3. WoS is slightly below these guys but still town to me. The only real point I have against him is that he is kinda weird on hte gumshoe issue. I think gumshoe's flip could tell us a lot about WoS. The three scummy people: I feel like a team would be Palmer/Va as my most likely pair. Palmer has been playing really weird this game and his interactions with Ace seem like distancing more than trying to push lynches on each other. He also tried to justify himself as confirmed based on either way that I flip: On May 15 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote: ##vote tehpoofter I'm confirmed town if he flips mafia as I've been wanting to kill him since the koshi shot. I'm confirmed town if he flips town for voting VA first today and trying to avoid a bad lynch. VA has been flowing under this guise of a blue claim the whole game. I'm not even sure what it is he has exactly claimed but its been bogus. He really doesn't push anything just hopes in and casts a vote and doesnt push for a lynch of defend who he isn't voting or seem invested at all. Gumshoe being the third if he combined all his posts he still probably wouldn't be over the day 1 post limit. He had that huge case on Oats in the beginning but the way he entered the thread on Marv's day was really scummy just before lynch as if to only not get mod killed. I think that Palmer/Gum are likely and so is VA/Gum. I really think that math wise 6-2 makes the most sense. From my point of view unless WoS is somehow mafia (I think unlikely) This game is auto we have 3 lynches and a sleep I know I'm town so lynch into Va/Palmer/Gum and town wins. Obviously this is assuming my town reads are all correct but I feel pretty sure about them and that means 3 night kills between then and now. I really can't decide between VA/Palmer/Gum who is most likely to be on a team as they could all be together. I'm going to say for post game bragging the team was most likely Oats, BH, Caller, Ace, VA, Palmer. ##Vote: VayneAuthority | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 16 2014 07:03 justanothertownie wrote: Ok. The more important part - as you obviously realize - is who you think the remaining scum are and why. If you are town you are in a unique position right now. Yep I addressed it below but this is basically a won game if my Town reads are correct. Lynch Va/Palmer/Gum in any order. JAT Can you tell me why you're voting me like I really need to not get lynched I'm town and I'm worried there isn't enough people around. WE are at 8 so I would prefer not to waste our sleep if we need it later. @Marv/VE What team do you think is more like Va/Palmer? Palmer/Gum? VA/gum? Or am I bad at math and there should be 3 mafia? Also side note if you want to not lynch town you should vote for someone else. I think VA is most likely to flip scum followed by Palmer. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Actually the Koshi shot is kinda a trivial part of why I think you're mafia. I kinda explained how i felt the evolution of your reads on me/ace/VE weren't natural, how you never went for Ace even though I'd made scum-cases on two of your scumtargets (ace/VE) and yet you called me mafia. I find that hard to get over. Even though I don't think anything you've written is massively townie just now, I'm tempted just to kill gumshoe after all, even though I've been hardpushing your lynch. The thing is, right, I find it practically impossible that you and gumshoe are both town, and therefore the push on Vayne feels... not correct to me. Dunno how other people feel but I could maybe vote gumshoe after all. Or I could leave my vote on poofter. What does everyone else think? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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