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On May 13 2014 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: So I guess the plan for today is to let gumshoe slide, huh? Whatever. Tell me who to vote for later. stop being boring. it's boring. you can be apathetic without being boring. | ||
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On May 13 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Marv of the unflipped players do you think we have hit any scum? it's possible we hit mafia in Caller, but I wouldn't particularly bet on it. Don't think the other two were mafia. | ||
WaveofShadow
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On May 13 2014 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I would still kill gumshoe. If you're not interested in actually pushing gumshoe and trying to get votes on him Wave then why even mention it? Of course I'm interested but there's not much to say that hasn't been siaid. Either you believe the guy is scum and did what he did just to avoid modkill/fucking his team, or you think he's the worst town player to ever play the game and you either want to policy him for it or you don't. People know my opinions on people who play like this; I rant about it all the time. It is killiing my will to play in this game. So as I said, we're either as a collective letting that behaviour slide (whether scum or town) or we lynch him. If we let it slide, I will at the very least not contribute to the problem my voting where I need to. As is I will liekly sheep marv. I believe I hace made mmy intentions nothing but clear throughout. Sorry if I'm boring you marv. | ||
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You REALLY think that was scum? I'd like to hear the thought process behind that. | ||
VisceraEyes
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On May 13 2014 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Of course I'm interested but there's not much to say that hasn't been siaid. Either you believe the guy is scum and did what he did just to avoid modkill/fucking his team, or you think he's the worst town player to ever play the game and you either want to policy him for it or you don't. People know my opinions on people who play like this; I rant about it all the time. It is killiing my will to play in this game. So as I said, we're either as a collective letting that behaviour slide (whether scum or town) or we lynch him. If we let it slide, I will at the very least not contribute to the problem my voting where I need to. As is I will liekly sheep marv. I believe I hace made mmy intentions nothing but clear throughout. Sorry if I'm boring you marv. Well, now there's a bunch of votes on Ace and very few on gumshoe. Does this tell you anything about the people who /were/ gonna vote gumshoe, or said they wanted to vote gumshoe, but now aren't? There's stuff to talk about and you're just whining. Like, I get it. You're pissed of at gumshoe. Get over it man, and help us find mafia. If you're town, that is. If not then keep doing what you're doing. It doesn't make you look any townier and it's not necessarily impeding /me/ from finding mafia, so it's whatever. I just think that if the waters weren't so muddy we would have a clearer picture. You're muddying the waters Wave. Dirty boy. | ||
WaveofShadow
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I personally don't give a shit right now what people said re: gumshoe and are or aren't doing now. If there was something to look into regarding it, and you're town, shouldn't you have done that already instead of asking me? | ||
VisceraEyes
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On May 13 2014 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote: VE. Did you see Koshi's reaction upon being shot/Odin's? You REALLY think that was scum? I'd like to hear the thought process behind that. It's mostly about the way he was pushing SnB/defending Oats that makes me think so. Based on thread sentiment I would say that it was pretty obvious that Odin was town anyway, so Koshi calling him so and begging not to be protected doesn't mean much to me. Like, especially if he thought that he could make Odin CERTAIN Koshi was town by outbursting like that and draw the save anyway. Leaving the scumteam open to shoot Austin a day earlier. And if he doesn't, then he still doesn't flip and looks townier to people (see: this argument). | ||
VisceraEyes
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On May 13 2014 02:57 WaveofShadow wrote: VE I'm not muddying shit. You know me and what I'm like and you know I'm town. Don't want to beat the dead marv-horse but throwing suspicion on me now just makes YOU look shitty. I personally don't give a shit right now what people said re: gumshoe and are or aren't doing now. If there was something to look into regarding it, and you're town, shouldn't you have done that already instead of asking me? How am I throwing suspicion on you? I said you're muddying the waters, an action that describes your play regardless of your alignment man. Calm the fuck down. | ||
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On May 13 2014 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote: It's mostly about the way he was pushing SnB/defending Oats that makes me think so. Based on thread sentiment I would say that it was pretty obvious that Odin was town anyway, so Koshi calling him so and begging not to be protected doesn't mean much to me. Like, especially if he thought that he could make Odin CERTAIN Koshi was town by outbursting like that and draw the save anyway. Leaving the scumteam open to shoot Austin a day earlier. And if he doesn't, then he still doesn't flip and looks townier to people (see: this argument). Not a fakable reaction in that way and in that span of time imo. Plus I don't think he was looking even remotely scummy before. Do you follow Poofter's line of though regarding Koshi being scum and his insistence and arguments for such even after the shot? | ||
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marvellosity
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On April 29 2014 21:19 Tehpoofter wrote: So I'm about to head to bed after this post but I'll just say that I have a day shot and right now and its most likely getting used today people that were red in my first post are who I'm looking at. I think that Koshi/Foolishness 1 is town 1 is scum almost always. I think they're both too good to both be scum here but could easily feed off the other that is town in an attempt to pocket/shuck the blame on each other when things go south. Oats was the other lynch for yesterday he was at one point I believe tied with SNB. Austin brings up a really good point that Oats was saying caller was town for nuking Palmer and it was so dumb he couldn't be scum but then Oats voted Slam instantly for doing something similar without hesitation. Read austin's filter I was trying to find this post and turns out austin talks about Oats a lot so don't search the word "oats" I don't have much to add on the case as austin did I think a really good job on it. It was much stronger than the SNB case and I think it not getting pushed over was most likely mafia not wanting to. Slam - I can't read you. You shot in a weird in scummy way especially if multiple scum people show up in the voters that were on SNB at the time of Yam's threat. You are a question mark for me in every game we've ever played and that pushes you from "I have no clue" to "wow he did something scummy better lynch him" to me. My main reads however are Koshi and Foolishness (these are my two most likely shots today as I think a) they're the most scummy and b) I don't think town will be able to consolidate on one and they're unlikely to both be scum) I will make a bigger post when I wake up highlighting the scumminess with quotes and shit but for now: Koshi He made this case on SNB and it got band wagoned if he is town here he would be excited I think that SNB his scum read was going to get lynched and be pushing for it (look at how austin the town hero was pushing for Oats) he would be asking questions and trying to really get people on his side for the lynch because obviously finding scum is amazing. Instead Koshi posts such inspiring posts as: ^^ Good job here pre distancing from the lynch he started. He doesn't try to rally the town behind him ask others questions about his case the only thing he asked was to SNB "Am I scum?" He spends more time defending Oats than he does pushing his own lynch: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 07:02 Koshi wrote: Why isn't Oats lynchbait? Small filter. AFK till lynch. On April 28 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote: I read Oats filter after reading austin case and I don't see the connection. The case is larger than his filter. On April 28 2014 07:07 Koshi wrote: Oats even has way bigger filters than this as mafia. He is a fucking hard catch normally. Look at all the games. He always is like last mafia standing. He doesn't try to give extra reasoning why SnB is scum he basically says he is scum gogogogog. Look at the way austin approached his lynch (imo super townie) and how Koshi did... he was pushing but not and defending the other lynch. I think its super likely Koshi and Oats are both mafia and thats why I put him ahead of Foolishness. The other thing Koshi has done since day 1 right after the night phase ended: He basically clears Oats and Slam because of geripts reads right after the shot and basically straight sheeps him with the Palmer read and now suddenly turns on Foolishness. Foolishness was right with him on day 1 on the lynch on SnB they were buddies he sheeped him instantly with his votes goign against his own reads. If Koshi/Oats/Slam are all mafia the geript shot was the best shot to make imo. I will post my Foolishness side of the coin tomorrow for now I need sleep and honestly after going through Koshi's filter again he looks so damn scummy its unreal. Yes, I think this is a very good analysis of Koshi's play surrounding the SnB/Oats lynch. | ||
justanothertownie
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On May 13 2014 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Of course I'm interested but there's not much to say that hasn't been siaid. Either you believe the guy is scum and did what he did just to avoid modkill/fucking his team, or you think he's the worst town player to ever play the game and you either want to policy him for it or you don't. People know my opinions on people who play like this; I rant about it all the time. It is killiing my will to play in this game. So as I said, we're either as a collective letting that behaviour slide (whether scum or town) or we lynch him. If we let it slide, I will at the very least not contribute to the problem my voting where I need to. As is I will liekly sheep marv. I believe I hace made mmy intentions nothing but clear throughout. Sorry if I'm boring you marv. Why don't you do what I will do? Don't lynch gumshoe if you think he is town (you hinted at that earlier) and just WOTC him/don't join a game with him again if he is town in this one. | ||
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