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On May 12 2014 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote:On May 12 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2014 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did you not hear the part about me being wrong about marv? And I'm not sleeping anyone. I have my own reasons for wanting to lynch Ace. Mostly YOLO, but there are other reasons. That's nice and all but where are those reasons? What point is there in holding them back? All you have done this game is screaming "I AM TOWN I AM TOWN I AM SO TOWN CONFIRMED TOWN WHAT YOU SCUMREAD ME? YOU SCUM! I AM TOWN!" and next to nothing else. The only reason I am hesitant on scumreading you is that austin and Foolishness townread you for reasons that I can't check myself. On May 12 2014 07:07 Ace wrote:
##donate 10 posts to marv So, do you want to say anything? No? @Marv: Let's say I have this urge to lynch Poofter right now since our little discussion. How would you convince me that we should lynch Ace first? I wouldn't. I certainly ain't leading this town. I'd like to lynch Ace. I'd also like to lynch poofter. If x,y,z said "let's lynch poofter" I'd say "oki doki" I should probably try to meta him although this blasted postcount limit makes it hard. I was pretty sure he was town in Catastrophe (dunno if you remember, but i was quite anti-lynching him when his name was brought up at the end of day 1) because i knew he was mafia in the ongoing Cell game and his play looked quite different. Unfortunately reduced posting reduces some of that effectiveness, might give it a go tomorrow though. His filter really is very short though. The infirmed prplhz (bless his soul) *still* has 2 more pages than poof does... me no likey. I'm coming around on VE being town, for slight gameplay reasons i can't describe, but mainly because a) if VE is town, I can say I listened to other people and came around on VE like a good, civilised townie b) if VE is mafia after all, I can blame everyone for talking me out of it it's really win win. Hm. Ok, I will have to see if I think that's what townmarv would do. Anyways, since your vote is on Ace and not Poofter I would still like some more reasoning than "he discredited me in that one post" and "Ace cos Ace". There are several days of Aces play to look into besides that. Just one post that tells everyone exactly why Ace is likely scum and should be lynched. That you are giving Poofter reasons so easily and there is almost nothing about Ace makes me feel uneasy. Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 08:47 Palmar wrote:
If poof is maf we gotta lynch dat mf scumshoe #preflipassociativereads #scumhunt4lyfe ##vote thepoofter You know what'd be great? If any of you damn "vets" would explain what he does/thinks at least once.
I don't need any more reasoning. If you have a better bet, *you* tell *me*. If you wanna lynch poof over Ace, you go ahead and tell me why Ace should live, and quite possibly I'll run with that.
Anyways, my point wasn't that he discredited me, because he does that all day every day as town too, so that's whatever. It was the manner and how, which I hoped I'd got across. ergo
a) ace discredits marv
b) ace discredits marv while at the same time saying the same stuff marv has said *and* deciding that somehow makes marv the best lynch
Also, you aint lazy, go look at prplhz mafiagames, and stop with this bullshit "i need to see if this is what townmarv would do". Who gives a shit what i'd do, look at his blasted scumgames and come back and recognise it is blatantly not prplhz's mafia play. And then come back and realise that when i replaced in i put a shit-tonne of effort into the game (whether my results were correct or not).
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On May 12 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2014 07:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
I think the lynch tomorrow is Gum/Marv order is irrelevant that was scum purposedly not wanting a lynch through on two buddies I imagine. Palmer fucking off and voting Ace and not consolidating is really really sketchy he is out of the town. WoS got moved out of town for not voting on Marv yesterday although he was on gumshoe if I was partners with Marv I'd move on gumshoe too and try to protect him and I believe that Marv and gum are scum 80% of the time +.
Town: Tehpoofter Slam Austin Jat VE
Questions: WoS Palmer VA
Mafia: Marv Gum Ace So, first of all your scumteam makes no sense. Marv is most definitely not scum with Ace. He bullied me really hard to shoot Ace so as long as he wasn't 100 % convinced I am fakeclaiming this means they are not on the same scumteam. He wouldn't even get any towncred for it due to the noflip.
Why is WoS scummy for not voting marv? Why am I NOT scummy for doing the same? This isn't the first time someone is complaining about how hard it was to get marv lynched but be honest here - does that mean he is more likely scum when the people who refused to lynch him were basically WoS, austin and me? 2 of those are in your townlist one in unknown.I have the horrible feeling gumshoe might be town and literally the worst player imaginable. If that is the case we are totally fucked (thanks gumshoe!) so I am wondering if this is not the perfect time to lynch him regardless for policy reasons. Hm... Gumshoe, if you are town you better go into try hard mode today and posting some weak shit about Vayne is NOT try hard mode. I want your reads about every other player in the game WITH reasoning. As I said before I will just assume that Wave is town for the rest of the game. If he is scum and pulled that conceding shit etc. then I hope he is proud about winning this way. If he is town and annoyed that is perfectly understandable. WoS, please don't just vote gumshoe and peace out. At least try to win this game with me. I will go over all the lynches again later and see if I find something.
So I will concede that Marv and Ace as scum is unlikely I still feel like yesterday was scum trying really hard to save marv with a move ANYWHERE else. It makes me think that either gum is a poor townie who has played against his win con minus posting on Oats or he was a bus of a weak member who they can gain credibility off of.
Jat I feel like you've been wrong town all game thats why you didn't move down over WoS. I feel your passion in your tone you REALLY thought Fool was mafia you also really read prphlz/marv as town for AGREEING with you on that Foolishness lynch. You also scum read me for disagreeing with you on the shot on Koshi. So to me you've just been wrong all game and continue to be wrong. WoS on the other hand could have fooled me with his tone read about perking up after the scum got lynched maybe because I was thinking along the same lines that alright we are gonna win this! he was excited too but it could have just been scum motivation to step it up after some partners got caught.
I'm about to head to lunch and am at work but I think for now going to fully catch up afte
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On May 12 2014 08:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think poofter is our best bet, his shot still doesnt sit well with me at all. my second choice is gumshoe if people still up for that.
##unvote
##vote:Tehpoofter
So after what 4-5 days your best scum read at this point is "this one dude shot someone who looked town to me"?
What do you think of Marv this game? What about Ace?
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On May 12 2014 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
Also, you aint lazy, go look at prplhz mafiagames, and stop with this bullshit "i need to see if this is what townmarv would do". Who gives a shit what i'd do, look at his blasted scumgames and come back and recognise it is blatantly not prplhz's mafia play. And then come back and realise that when i replaced in i put a shit-tonne of effort into the game (whether my results were correct or not).
I know this wasn't directed at me but how do you do this easily? Like is there a list or something? I have tomorrow off so I should have time to read up but don't want to waste time looking through the games under the mafia list to see if prphlz was in them then see if he was town.
To answer your question from earlier about VE/you and why I think you're the scummier one. It is actually for something austin quoted from the QT and has to do with a video mafia read. So VEtown on video mafia will be sorta in your face and not afraid to call someone out or call them a dick or w.e. for not doing something he thinks they should. He is verbose and open. Reading some of the quotes austin posted from the QT changed my mind (because if you'll recall I was actually pushing more heavily on VE than you at the time) I'll link them but I don't expect others to have the same meta read on VE unless they've seen him on video before but: + Show Spoiler +On May 09 2014 12:24 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +Jesus Christ could you hard claim Masons in the thread any more? The fact that you're not dead is very suspicious to me. -.-
I'm going to read this thang before I post too much. 1 hour later Show nested quote +Okay, having read this thang I only have one question for both of you:
Are you fine with the other one? As in, you've spent time together in here, do you feel like the other is trustworthy?
I assume the answer is yes based on what's been said in thread and in here but I want to make sure before we go further. VE responds Show nested quote +Anyway I want to lynch caller not shoot him. I want to know whether he's scum or not because to me that's important with what he's doing right now. Posts today where he's not quite sure about me, maybe Show nested quote +Foolish was cleared because if he were scum Sandroba wouldn't have been shot on the night BH tried to recruit him. We talked about this bitch. ARE YOU FUCKING SCUM AUSTIN? Make sure to show nested quotes as I didn't want to just copy paste but the first 2 I initially read as more of a scummy thing like that from Catastrophe but on 2nd read I see the line about it being suspicious and him wanting to read it as more townie because as scum he would put in the suspicious line but leave out the reading. The third one was exactly how I felt about the Oats lynch. I could have shot him the day I shot Koshi but I wanted to see his flip because it gave town a lot of information so the fact he was thinking the same way as me that who you shoot/lynch is an important distinction is more townie. The last two are the ones that rely on my video mafia read. The bolded part plus the last line that got unquoted and I'm not sure how to fix are both things I could see him saying as town in those games and I actually read them in his voice. I imagined him pulling his ecig out of his mouth and puffing right before the first one and getting closer to the camera.
If you're town marv go back and read my short filters like you suggested I think you will come back realizing I'm town here. JAt you should do so as well they aren't big filters as I'm low volume and the post count doesn't really effect me in the slightest.
Now onto todays lynches. So I'm going to hold off on voting Marv until I've read some of those prphlz scum games and see what they show up. So assuming its not Marv, Ace seems like a good bet or potentially VA/Gum. VA moved down on my list after that bullshit vote he made on me today off something that happened 2 days ago... if I'm scum VA why not push it then?? I know you had Jats backing at the time.
@WoS say we knew gumshoe was green who would be your 2nd choice for scum?
@VE/Slam How many mafia should be left? Is it like video mafia VE so number of players divided by 4? Assuming its like that we would have started with 5 on the cusp of 6 so I guess with trator that probably means 6. So 2 confirmed dead, I think between Koshi/Yamato/Caller we would have to be pretty unlucky not to have hit 1 mafia. This brings us to 2-3 left. For me 3 is more realistic and I want to play safe. So I feel like the lynch was controlled yesterday and some people didn't/werent concerned about getting a lynch. At this point they would need to have some sleeps to be successful if they have 3 out of the suspicious bunch. Myself/JaT Austin Slam VE were all still alive. vs something like Marv/VA/Ace/gum/Palmer/WoS <<<I feel like the 3 are in there with WoS being conditional on gum's alignment if gum is scum WoS is back in the village if he is town hes probably my number 1. He has been all about consolidating but yesterday wanted instead to sit on the lurker with austin which would be a great move to deflect from a teammate like marv. Blah I need to just figure out where I can read prphlz because like 70% of my reads revolve around marv and how I think we missed and if I'm wrong I'm just being a dope about half of these.
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On May 12 2014 09:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote:On May 12 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2014 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did you not hear the part about me being wrong about marv? And I'm not sleeping anyone. I have my own reasons for wanting to lynch Ace. Mostly YOLO, but there are other reasons. That's nice and all but where are those reasons? What point is there in holding them back? All you have done this game is screaming "I AM TOWN I AM TOWN I AM SO TOWN CONFIRMED TOWN WHAT YOU SCUMREAD ME? YOU SCUM! I AM TOWN!" and next to nothing else. The only reason I am hesitant on scumreading you is that austin and Foolishness townread you for reasons that I can't check myself. On May 12 2014 07:07 Ace wrote:
##donate 10 posts to marv So, do you want to say anything? No? @Marv: Let's say I have this urge to lynch Poofter right now since our little discussion. How would you convince me that we should lynch Ace first? I wouldn't. I certainly ain't leading this town. I'd like to lynch Ace. I'd also like to lynch poofter. If x,y,z said "let's lynch poofter" I'd say "oki doki" I should probably try to meta him although this blasted postcount limit makes it hard. I was pretty sure he was town in Catastrophe (dunno if you remember, but i was quite anti-lynching him when his name was brought up at the end of day 1) because i knew he was mafia in the ongoing Cell game and his play looked quite different. Unfortunately reduced posting reduces some of that effectiveness, might give it a go tomorrow though. His filter really is very short though. The infirmed prplhz (bless his soul) *still* has 2 more pages than poof does... me no likey. I'm coming around on VE being town, for slight gameplay reasons i can't describe, but mainly because a) if VE is town, I can say I listened to other people and came around on VE like a good, civilised townie b) if VE is mafia after all, I can blame everyone for talking me out of it it's really win win. Hm. Ok, I will have to see if I think that's what townmarv would do. Anyways, since your vote is on Ace and not Poofter I would still like some more reasoning than "he discredited me in that one post" and "Ace cos Ace". There are several days of Aces play to look into besides that. Just one post that tells everyone exactly why Ace is likely scum and should be lynched. That you are giving Poofter reasons so easily and there is almost nothing about Ace makes me feel uneasy. On May 12 2014 08:47 Palmar wrote:
If poof is maf we gotta lynch dat mf scumshoe #preflipassociativereads #scumhunt4lyfe ##vote thepoofter You know what'd be great? If any of you damn "vets" would explain what he does/thinks at least once. I don't need any more reasoning. If you have a better bet, *you* tell *me*. If you wanna lynch poof over Ace, you go ahead and tell me why Ace should live, and quite possibly I'll run with that. Anyways, my point wasn't that he discredited me, because he does that all day every day as town too, so that's whatever. It was the manner and how, which I hoped I'd got across. ergo a) ace discredits marv b) ace discredits marv while at the same time saying the same stuff marv has said *and* deciding that somehow makes marv the best lynch Also, you aint lazy, go look at prplhz mafiagames, and stop with this bullshit "i need to see if this is what townmarv would do". Who gives a shit what i'd do, look at his blasted scumgames and come back and recognise it is blatantly not prplhz's mafia play. And then come back and realise that when i replaced in i put a shit-tonne of effort into the game (whether my results were correct or not).
I am lazy enough not to do that before caring about rereading some stuff that happened this game when I could just read you by your play if you were trying to lead this town...
POOFTER, I am only going to repeat myself once:
On May 10 2014 09:41 justanothertownie wrote:I agree that gumshoe is not the lynch. I really hope he just gets modkilled. Yeah, marv is running out of posts if I counted it correctly he was 2 posts over his limit before you donated so he should have 1 left now. You can count yourself if you look into his filter (3 posts were made in the night). If you want to verify his prplhz read yourself go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2Open the prplhz spoiler and you see all his games on this site. Click on them to get to his filter there. Austin, gumshoe might be modkilled. Lynch could be a waste. Fancy a switch to Ace maybe?
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So that was a giant wall of text. Where I stand currently. One I read prphlz's mafia game and if I think Marv is scum: Marv/Gum/Palmer my likely 3 with VA in for either gum or Palmer. If I read them and think Marv is town: Ace/Gum/VA most likely the scum team with Palmer being a maybe.
WoS could be scum with Marv is scum team especially if gum was just straight afk and not just afk in the thread.
Town Circle: Me Jat VE Slam. <<<would not lynch.
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On May 12 2014 11:38 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 09:03 marvellosity wrote:On May 12 2014 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote:On May 12 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2014 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did you not hear the part about me being wrong about marv? And I'm not sleeping anyone. I have my own reasons for wanting to lynch Ace. Mostly YOLO, but there are other reasons. That's nice and all but where are those reasons? What point is there in holding them back? All you have done this game is screaming "I AM TOWN I AM TOWN I AM SO TOWN CONFIRMED TOWN WHAT YOU SCUMREAD ME? YOU SCUM! I AM TOWN!" and next to nothing else. The only reason I am hesitant on scumreading you is that austin and Foolishness townread you for reasons that I can't check myself. On May 12 2014 07:07 Ace wrote:
##donate 10 posts to marv So, do you want to say anything? No? @Marv: Let's say I have this urge to lynch Poofter right now since our little discussion. How would you convince me that we should lynch Ace first? I wouldn't. I certainly ain't leading this town. I'd like to lynch Ace. I'd also like to lynch poofter. If x,y,z said "let's lynch poofter" I'd say "oki doki" I should probably try to meta him although this blasted postcount limit makes it hard. I was pretty sure he was town in Catastrophe (dunno if you remember, but i was quite anti-lynching him when his name was brought up at the end of day 1) because i knew he was mafia in the ongoing Cell game and his play looked quite different. Unfortunately reduced posting reduces some of that effectiveness, might give it a go tomorrow though. His filter really is very short though. The infirmed prplhz (bless his soul) *still* has 2 more pages than poof does... me no likey. I'm coming around on VE being town, for slight gameplay reasons i can't describe, but mainly because a) if VE is town, I can say I listened to other people and came around on VE like a good, civilised townie b) if VE is mafia after all, I can blame everyone for talking me out of it it's really win win. Hm. Ok, I will have to see if I think that's what townmarv would do. Anyways, since your vote is on Ace and not Poofter I would still like some more reasoning than "he discredited me in that one post" and "Ace cos Ace". There are several days of Aces play to look into besides that. Just one post that tells everyone exactly why Ace is likely scum and should be lynched. That you are giving Poofter reasons so easily and there is almost nothing about Ace makes me feel uneasy. On May 12 2014 08:47 Palmar wrote:
If poof is maf we gotta lynch dat mf scumshoe #preflipassociativereads #scumhunt4lyfe ##vote thepoofter You know what'd be great? If any of you damn "vets" would explain what he does/thinks at least once. I don't need any more reasoning. If you have a better bet, *you* tell *me*. If you wanna lynch poof over Ace, you go ahead and tell me why Ace should live, and quite possibly I'll run with that. Anyways, my point wasn't that he discredited me, because he does that all day every day as town too, so that's whatever. It was the manner and how, which I hoped I'd got across. ergo a) ace discredits marv b) ace discredits marv while at the same time saying the same stuff marv has said *and* deciding that somehow makes marv the best lynch Also, you aint lazy, go look at prplhz mafiagames, and stop with this bullshit "i need to see if this is what townmarv would do". Who gives a shit what i'd do, look at his blasted scumgames and come back and recognise it is blatantly not prplhz's mafia play. And then come back and realise that when i replaced in i put a shit-tonne of effort into the game (whether my results were correct or not). I am lazy enough not to do that before caring about rereading some stuff that happened this game when I could just read you by your play if you were trying to lead this town... POOFTER, I am only going to repeat myself once: Show nested quote +On May 10 2014 09:41 justanothertownie wrote:I agree that gumshoe is not the lynch. I really hope he just gets modkilled. Yeah, marv is running out of posts if I counted it correctly he was 2 posts over his limit before you donated so he should have 1 left now. You can count yourself if you look into his filter (3 posts were made in the night). If you want to verify his prplhz read yourself go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2Open the prplhz spoiler and you see all his games on this site. Click on them to get to his filter there. Austin, gumshoe might be modkilled. Lynch could be a waste. Fancy a switch to Ace maybe?
Thanks JAT I missed this earlier. I have homework now!
@Jat do you think Marv is trying to currently lead town in a townie fashion? I feel like the distinction between Ace and Gum here could be pertinent. Also did you see my guess on number of scum left? You think its how many?
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Vote Count:
Ace (5) - Alakaslam, marvellosity, justanothertownie, gumshoe, VisceraEyes
tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, Palmar
gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow
vayneauthority (0) -
Marvellosity (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Ace, tehpoofter
Day ends in . There are 10 players alive, and it takes 6 to lynch.
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Maybe you should stop calling me mafia so you sound less dumb poffter.
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Marv not knowing wos is mafia means he could be mafia
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btw, if I have to choose between lynching Ace and losing, or not lynching Ace and losing, I'll go with lynching Ace every time.
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as well as the fact your first instinct being to call VE scum for calling you scum seemed like not something townmarv would do. (I've only played the one game with you but I hear you're good so I just don't see it as a town reaction)
What is this dumb shit, poofter?
1) I love lynching people who call me scum
2) I didn't call VE mafia because he called me mafia? Are you even reading the thread in a basic fashion?
Timeline for you, all verifiable by reading the thread.
a) marv calls VE mafia
b) VE says he's gonna go find mafia instead of getting lynched
c) VE lazily omguses marv instead of doing any work (later saying he didn't even think i was mafia at the time)
d) marv said this helps confirm his scumread because VE just lazily omgused me rather than finding mafia
How have you turned this into "marv called VE scum for calling him scum"???
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On May 12 2014 17:36 Palmar wrote:
MarvPalmar not knowing wosmarv is mafiatown means he could be mafia
Actually a more true statement now.
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On May 12 2014 17:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:36 Palmar wrote:
MarvPalmar not knowing wosmarv is mafiatown means he could be mafia Actually a more true statement now.
Wow less hate ples.
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Also I thought prplhz was town, so you get the benefit of replacing in for a very good player.
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you really could be mafia because you don't give a shit about winning the game
i don't quite have enough cares to think about it though
and i'm never lynching Wave this game, he's one of the only people (unlike you) to realise I'm obviously town. So my unwillingness to lynch Wave is literally your fault.
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He could also _know_ you're town, get it?
Like when he treated austin and Jat as confirmed town, remember? Healthy suspicion is very towny marv, why you make it sound like it isn't?
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yep I know.
but I have arses like you running around throwing your vote on me for no reason.
so against that backdrop, he gets my vote immunity. He can literally keep me alive to 2-1 lylo if he is mafia and I will not vote for him, because people like you and Caller vote for me for no reason and don't want to try to win the game.
Simple game.
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If I'm mafia I would be trying to win the game. If I'm town, you're equally guilty as me of not trying to win the game by being a whiny baby about some random votes. I'm not even voting you atm, I'm trying to kill poofter for bullshit shot.
Oh and did you see his defense "It happened 3 days ago so you can't lynch me for it anymore". I was like "say what bro?"
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