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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:17 GMT
#1901
I would still kill gumshoe. If you're not interested in actually pushing gumshoe and trying to get votes on him Wave then why even mention it?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2014 17:20 GMT
#1902
On May 13 2014 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
What a silly reason to call any reason to call reasons for lynching people bad.

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[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2014 17:21 GMT
#1903
On May 13 2014 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I guess the plan for today is to let gumshoe slide, huh?
Whatever. Tell me who to vote for later.

stop being boring.

it's boring.

you can be apathetic without being boring.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:32 GMT
#1904
Marv of the unflipped players do you think we have hit any scum?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:32 GMT
#1905
*unflipped dead players
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2014 17:37 GMT
#1906
On May 13 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv of the unflipped players do you think we have hit any scum?

it's possible we hit mafia in Caller, but I wouldn't particularly bet on it. Don't think the other two were mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 12 2014 17:46 GMT
#1907
On May 13 2014 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would still kill gumshoe. If you're not interested in actually pushing gumshoe and trying to get votes on him Wave then why even mention it?

Of course I'm interested but there's not much to say that hasn't been siaid. Either you believe the guy is scum and did what he did just to avoid modkill/fucking his team, or you think he's the worst town player to ever play the game and you either want to policy him for it or you don't.

People know my opinions on people who play like this; I rant about it all the time. It is killiing my will to play in this game. So as I said, we're either as a collective letting that behaviour slide (whether scum or town) or we lynch him. If we let it slide, I will at the very least not contribute to the problem my voting where I need to. As is I will liekly sheep marv. I believe I hace made mmy intentions nothing but clear throughout. Sorry if I'm boring you marv.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:46 GMT
#1908
Well I think Koshi was mafia. Caller I'm not sure about either, but I want to say that he was town and Palmar scum from their first big interaction. But yeah, not particularly sure about him based on the way he was playing. And Palmar just looks really bad anyway. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 12 2014 17:48 GMT
#1909
VE. Did you see Koshi's reaction upon being shot/Odin's?
You REALLY think that was scum?

I'd like to hear the thought process behind that.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:50 GMT
#1910
On May 13 2014 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would still kill gumshoe. If you're not interested in actually pushing gumshoe and trying to get votes on him Wave then why even mention it?

Of course I'm interested but there's not much to say that hasn't been siaid. Either you believe the guy is scum and did what he did just to avoid modkill/fucking his team, or you think he's the worst town player to ever play the game and you either want to policy him for it or you don't.

People know my opinions on people who play like this; I rant about it all the time. It is killiing my will to play in this game. So as I said, we're either as a collective letting that behaviour slide (whether scum or town) or we lynch him. If we let it slide, I will at the very least not contribute to the problem my voting where I need to. As is I will liekly sheep marv. I believe I hace made mmy intentions nothing but clear throughout. Sorry if I'm boring you marv.

Well, now there's a bunch of votes on Ace and very few on gumshoe. Does this tell you anything about the people who /were/ gonna vote gumshoe, or said they wanted to vote gumshoe, but now aren't? There's stuff to talk about and you're just whining. Like, I get it. You're pissed of at gumshoe. Get over it man, and help us find mafia. If you're town, that is. If not then keep doing what you're doing. It doesn't make you look any townier and it's not necessarily impeding /me/ from finding mafia, so it's whatever. I just think that if the waters weren't so muddy we would have a clearer picture. You're muddying the waters Wave. Dirty boy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 12 2014 17:57 GMT
#1911
VE I'm not muddying shit. You know me and what I'm like and you know I'm town. Don't want to beat the dead marv-horse but throwing suspicion on me now just makes YOU look shitty.

I personally don't give a shit right now what people said re: gumshoe and are or aren't doing now. If there was something to look into regarding it, and you're town, shouldn't you have done that already instead of asking me?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:58 GMT
#1912
On May 13 2014 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE. Did you see Koshi's reaction upon being shot/Odin's?
You REALLY think that was scum?

I'd like to hear the thought process behind that.

It's mostly about the way he was pushing SnB/defending Oats that makes me think so. Based on thread sentiment I would say that it was pretty obvious that Odin was town anyway, so Koshi calling him so and begging not to be protected doesn't mean much to me. Like, especially if he thought that he could make Odin CERTAIN Koshi was town by outbursting like that and draw the save anyway. Leaving the scumteam open to shoot Austin a day earlier. And if he doesn't, then he still doesn't flip and looks townier to people (see: this argument).
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 17:59 GMT
#1913
On May 13 2014 02:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE I'm not muddying shit. You know me and what I'm like and you know I'm town. Don't want to beat the dead marv-horse but throwing suspicion on me now just makes YOU look shitty.

I personally don't give a shit right now what people said re: gumshoe and are or aren't doing now. If there was something to look into regarding it, and you're town, shouldn't you have done that already instead of asking me?

How am I throwing suspicion on you? I said you're muddying the waters, an action that describes your play regardless of your alignment man. Calm the fuck down.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 12 2014 18:02 GMT
#1914
Can I ask you something else? What made YOU finally start to play this game?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 18:03 GMT
#1915
Everyone in my quicktopic dying. I've been playing all fucking game long Wave.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 12 2014 18:04 GMT
#1916
On May 13 2014 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE. Did you see Koshi's reaction upon being shot/Odin's?
You REALLY think that was scum?

I'd like to hear the thought process behind that.

It's mostly about the way he was pushing SnB/defending Oats that makes me think so. Based on thread sentiment I would say that it was pretty obvious that Odin was town anyway, so Koshi calling him so and begging not to be protected doesn't mean much to me. Like, especially if he thought that he could make Odin CERTAIN Koshi was town by outbursting like that and draw the save anyway. Leaving the scumteam open to shoot Austin a day earlier. And if he doesn't, then he still doesn't flip and looks townier to people (see: this argument).

Not a fakable reaction in that way and in that span of time imo. Plus I don't think he was looking even remotely scummy before. Do you follow Poofter's line of though regarding Koshi being scum and his insistence and arguments for such even after the shot?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 18:04 GMT
#1917
I take that back - there was a period during D2 or 3 when I was away from the thread and the QT - as made evidence by my lack of vote that day. But I've been playing the whole time outside of that window.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2014 18:09 GMT
#1918
I would be extremely surprised if Koshi were mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#1919
On April 29 2014 21:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
So I'm about to head to bed after this post but I'll just say that I have a day shot and right now and its most likely getting used today people that were red in my first post are who I'm looking at. I think that Koshi/Foolishness 1 is town 1 is scum almost always. I think they're both too good to both be scum here but could easily feed off the other that is town in an attempt to pocket/shuck the blame on each other when things go south.

Oats was the other lynch for yesterday he was at one point I believe tied with SNB. Austin brings up a really good point that Oats was saying caller was town for nuking Palmer and it was so dumb he couldn't be scum but then Oats voted Slam instantly for doing something similar without hesitation. Read austin's filter I was trying to find this post and turns out austin talks about Oats a lot so don't search the word "oats" I don't have much to add on the case as austin did I think a really good job on it. It was much stronger than the SNB case and I think it not getting pushed over was most likely mafia not wanting to.

Slam - I can't read you. You shot in a weird in scummy way especially if multiple scum people show up in the voters that were on SNB at the time of Yam's threat. You are a question mark for me in every game we've ever played and that pushes you from "I have no clue" to "wow he did something scummy better lynch him" to me.

My main reads however are Koshi and Foolishness (these are my two most likely shots today as I think a) they're the most scummy and b) I don't think town will be able to consolidate on one and they're unlikely to both be scum)

I will make a bigger post when I wake up highlighting the scumminess with quotes and shit but for now:

Koshi He made this case on SNB and it got band wagoned if he is town here he would be excited I think that SNB his scum read was going to get lynched and be pushing for it (look at how austin the town hero was pushing for Oats) he would be asking questions and trying to really get people on his side for the lynch because obviously finding scum is amazing. Instead Koshi posts such inspiring posts as:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:01 Koshi wrote:
On April 27 2014 13:47 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Kosher;
serious responds :'(
I'm basically Rayn 2.0!
Rayn my #1.. so obv we have to live on his traditions.
If you keep dodging me I'm going to feel cold and betrayed!
I might even feel obligated to think you're totes scum for it.
I just want to understand you!

Ok the things you asked me fully explained.

Palmar:

Palmar got nuked early in the game and reacted by playing anti-town. It seems he even wanted to play so anti town that he wanted to pardon our lynch. This alone is 100% nuke/Shoot/lynch Palmar for me. I said this quite early. On top of that he claimed scum the exact same way he did in World Heavy Champ thing by quoting the BH scumclaim "blow me town".

So I totes want to kill Palmar, but there always is this 1% chance that he was major butthurt and he is actually going to be helpful now because he realizes his major butthurtness was retarded. But I am not holding my breath. Somewhere Palmar should be shot instead of lynched maybe? I don't know, probably the wagon of justice will move to Palmar near the end of the day.


Foolishness/prplhz:

Foolishness made the JubJub Journals last game so I love Foolishness. Don't be mistaken though, I always love winning games more. So even though it may look like I am just sheeping Foolishness, I am very aware he hasn't done too much.

It has nothing to do with proplhz his alignment and how I read him. When I made my list of Koshi awesomeness I saw I already had way too many scum and I would have plprhz town reading his filter but I just put him as scum so people like JAT and geript can be outraged by the ridiculousness of my list and hammer on the fact I got prplhz as scum and I am sheeping etc etc.
I just give them scummy points in return. Also laugh at them.


SnB:
I think this guy is scum. Honest read. I explained it.



I think that's all! Bro status achieved?


Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote:
##vote: SnB
strongandbig is actually going after Foolishness "for not caring enough". Also superawesome research work on SnB part.


Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 03:13 Koshi wrote:
Meh... ABBA bro you better be not be lying scum here.
It's interesting SnB didn't mention geript. Because SnB disagrees with my case and calls me scummy for it but geript gave me a townread for my case.

I don't know anymore. All my scummers are voting for SnB.


I let the vets do their stuff and vote accordingly.

atm I like for lynch:
1) Palmar
2) SnB
3) VE
4) geript

^^
Good job here pre distancing from the lynch he started.

Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 07:04 Koshi wrote:
I stick on SnB.

gn.


Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:06 Koshi wrote:
Also this post count thingie is only a guideline and not a hard rule. Read OP pls.

SnB lynch of Justice.


He doesn't try to rally the town behind him ask others questions about his case the only thing he asked was to SNB "Am I scum?" He spends more time defending Oats than he does pushing his own lynch: + Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2014 07:02 Koshi wrote:
Why isn't Oats lynchbait?

Small filter.
AFK till lynch.


On April 28 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
I read Oats filter after reading austin case and I don't see the connection. The case is larger than his filter.

On April 28 2014 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Oats even has way bigger filters than this as mafia.
He is a fucking hard catch normally.
Look at all the games.

He always is like last mafia standing.


He doesn't try to give extra reasoning why SnB is scum he basically says he is scum gogogogog. Look at the way austin approached his lynch (imo super townie) and how Koshi did... he was pushing but not and defending the other lynch. I think its super likely Koshi and Oats are both mafia and thats why I put him ahead of Foolishness.

The other thing Koshi has done since day 1 right after the night phase ended:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote:
geript got shot. Things we learn from his filter:

1) Oats is town
2) Alakaslam is town
3) Cephiro needs to be shot really badly. geript was on Cephiro ass.
4) Foolishness is weird and needs to be shot.
5) Plammer is playing Dota and needs to be shot.
6) RoL useless should be shot.
7) Koshi is scum
8) SnB is scum

SnB was wrong about the last 2 but still got shot. This means he got a pretty decent % right on the other 6. I have read his entire filter twice now and I don't think I missed another big read of his. He had Sandroba as town, so that's something he was right about, but it is not something he would get shot over knowing that Sandroba got shot as well.

So please reread geript his filter as well and please let me know if I missed something. I am pretty sure I didn't. There is something minor on prplhz but nothing too big. His early filter was about Policy lynch Caller and Koshi.

So let me add something about this Koshi guy. This Koshi guy is totally not harmful. Almost every time it gets very obvious the longer the game progresses that this Koshi guy only wants the best for town. So I would say please leave the Koshi guy alone and not shoot him. Really. No kidding here. No bullets towards Koshi.

So imo the vigis should really shoot Cephiro, Palmar, Foolishness. Just all 3. Shoot them. I see Palmar even agrees on Foolishness and Cephiro.


He basically clears Oats and Slam because of geripts reads right after the shot and basically straight sheeps him with the Palmer read and now suddenly turns on Foolishness. Foolishness was right with him on day 1 on the lynch on SnB they were buddies he sheeped him instantly with his votes goign against his own reads. If Koshi/Oats/Slam are all mafia the geript shot was the best shot to make imo.

I will post my Foolishness side of the coin tomorrow for now I need sleep and honestly after going through Koshi's filter again he looks so damn scummy its unreal.

Yes, I think this is a very good analysis of Koshi's play surrounding the SnB/Oats lynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 12 2014 19:44 GMT
#1920
So Ace basically doesn't give a fuck about his lynch? No reason to lynch anyone else then. Seriously if he is town - fuck this town. At least confirmed town slam gets the lynch he wants finally.
On May 13 2014 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would still kill gumshoe. If you're not interested in actually pushing gumshoe and trying to get votes on him Wave then why even mention it?

Of course I'm interested but there's not much to say that hasn't been siaid. Either you believe the guy is scum and did what he did just to avoid modkill/fucking his team, or you think he's the worst town player to ever play the game and you either want to policy him for it or you don't.

People know my opinions on people who play like this; I rant about it all the time. It is killiing my will to play in this game. So as I said, we're either as a collective letting that behaviour slide (whether scum or town) or we lynch him. If we let it slide, I will at the very least not contribute to the problem my voting where I need to. As is I will liekly sheep marv. I believe I hace made mmy intentions nothing but clear throughout. Sorry if I'm boring you marv.

Why don't you do what I will do? Don't lynch gumshoe if you think he is town (you hinted at that earlier) and just WOTC him/don't join a game with him again if he is town in this one.
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