page 2-3
I like how Cava handeled my trolly questions about lynching him on D1. I read him town for that when it happened and I still like that read.
page 4
so people are still being really trolly, and I don't think anything that happened in pages 2-4 are alignment indicative except for the stuff I mentioned about Cava.
page 5-6
more useless stuff, and then comes HF's super fake case. both HF and myself vote for vivax
page 7
tehpoofter joke vote on steveling is a bit weird. if he was going along with the joke then why not vote vivax? it's not super alignment indicative but I did think it was a bit weird at the time. cav does the same thing, and i don't know why, but it seems less weird for him not to vote vivax than it did for tehpoofter not to vote vivax. maybe it's because i read cav's stuff as obvious jokes and tehpoofter's looks a bit more forced? idk. i really doubt there's anything to this though.
page 8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#143now this is a pretty shitty post. it's so bad that I'm kinda wondering if steveling isn't trolling here. if he sticks to thsi line of reasoning seriously it'lll be something to pay attention to. Cav's posts about lurking were obviously jokes.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#146Ok, so he's serious. This post is about as bad as teh previous one I mentioned. i did NOT get the impression that cav was at all worried or "sweating" or whatever. Steveling is making a lot out of nothing.
And here comes Oats:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#152I have skimmed the thread so I do know that oats and hf go at it for awhile. My current impression of Oats just having skimmed the rest of the thread is that I think he's probably town but I'm not very confident about that. But that vote is so much worse than I remembered it being. Was he calling HF scum? No. In fact the line "why even sign up if you arent going to bother" kinda implies that HF is town, albeit shitty town or whatever Oats was going for. That post looks sorta like a policy vote and a shitty one at that. So just off of that one vote I'm gonna have to reset my Oats read to null, maybe slightly scummy actually.
page 9
Ok koshi is noticing the exact same stuff about steveling that I did. Namely that steveling has a really really shit read and he is failing to understand that people are just joking around. Maybe a few town points go to koshi and maybe a few scum points to steve based on their interactions on page 9.
page 10
lmao oats is so crazy. i really don't knwo how to read him and will probably have to talk with him 1v1 to make a confident decision.
page 11
ok, I haven't commented on anything vivax has done yet because I think I need to see the end results of his efforts before judging him. I will say that so far i don't think he's really doing anything super useful with all the cav stuff he's talking about.
mderg comes in and says "After reading through this I don´t have a single read on anyone." idk, that seems like a likely read for someone to have I guess? the game was pretty trolly so far and mderg isn't super experienced so I can see it not being able to make anything of what's happened so far.
page 12
OK here is where the oats/hf stuff gets crazy. tbh this reminds me stuff that often happens to town oats. anyone remember this? "if rayn just only attacks town then it looks really bad so he wouldnt only attack town as scum, sooo he is scum for attacking town." i don't think the hiccup oats had in regards to HF's meta is outside the realm of his possible town play. and I remember from what I've skimmed that there are a few times where oats does sudden 180s on his reads and that's also something town oats does a lot. so right now i'm tentitively town reading oats.
and the rest of pg 12 is pretty boring
page 13
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=13#256more "meh" from vivax. i don't really know where he's going with this.
Oh btw. I haven't mentioned it yet but hf looks pretty town.
page 15
vivax - "Regarding HF a lot is cause of the reasons he's pushing Oats with. Oats sometimes gets misunderstood or misreads or doesn't make something incredibly clear, so pointing out inconsistencies and calling his mistakes or wrong representations lies, as in scummy lies shouldn't be applied while it could be applied to a player who doesn't make such mistakes as town often."
So holyflare is scummy because he's not taking oat's meta into account. that's really stupid. yeah the stuff vivax is saying about oats is mostly right but that is no reason to scumread holyflare for not considering oat's dumb meta. holyflare was the townie person in the thread at this point and vivax scumreading him for something this dumb seems beneath vivax. big scum points to vivax
later down the page cav says this to vivax "I still don't understand why you would expect me to give a read of you based off of nothing"
I agree with that. seems like vivax is really forcing this cava scum read.