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On May 06 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think you are scum for overacting and then this overreaction to something that I do practically every game anyway and I never do as scum.
On May 06 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
The meta thing does not play a part at all. Nothing. Stop referring to it because its chainsaw defending.
So why is it that I can't use meta to prove that what you are saying is utter BS but you CAN use meta about yourself to say that you are right? Is this real life or are you just squirming?
On May 06 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
The meta thing does not play a part at all. Nothing. Stop referring to it because its chainsaw defending.
On May 06 2014 00:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im really confused here, in what world does scumOats obviously lie about something completely factcheckable and then not give a shit? Oh right, no world.
Your meta doesnt show shit Holyflare.
In what world does town oats lie about something so obviously fact checkable to try and get someone lynched when the game hasn't even started?
+ Show Spoiler +For anyone that wants to listen to his nonsense and is unconvinced about lynching this mofo yet: Catastrophe Mafia (Themed) - Didn't do anything ALL of day 1 (oats was in this game), trolled majority of it. Cell mini mafia trolled almost all game Titanic 3 Made a fake case on DP to start discussion/get the ball rolling/troll (oats was also in this game!!!) Vengeful Mafia Did the same thing as titanic 3 Really small mafia - scooby doo all game
You have been in a lot of my games where I've opened with trolling! THAT is why there is an "overreaction" (hint: there's not), you LIED about my meta and it's something you should know about seeing as you were in a lot of those games to get me LYNCHED in an instant majority game but then when I point that out and you have to backtrack and suddenly me pointing out your lie is an overreaction????????
You are scum.
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Here's the chain of events:
1) Oats lies about my meta
2) I jump all over oats for this
3) Oats claims me jumping all over him for lying is an overreaction
4) I prove that what he did is a lie with meta
5) Oats says meta is useless -> says he's right because of meta -> says i'm scum for wanting to lynch a confirmed liar
6) Lynch oats
7) Profit. £££$$$$
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On May 06 2014 00:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 00:26 mderg wrote:
I don´t understand your play right now, Oatsmaster. Why would you state something as fact, if you have no idea about it? This is a totally uninformed and useless comment that is taking what I said and twisting it to suit his purposes.
I was not twisting anything to suit my purposes. I just think it´s stupid to state something as a fact, if you don´t know it for fact.
I also don´t think it´s useless to point something out that I strongly disagree with. Even if Holy was scum, your case had absolutely nothing to back it up.
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Anyway, back to the thread:
On May 05 2014 07:34 Cavalinho wrote:Cock ring and a smile.
This is the towniest post in the thread. By far.
In all seriousness: On May 05 2014 12:08 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 12:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Cav whyd you choose Steve over Vivax or anyone else?
@Steve what character is Cav? At first glace, I figured this was setup like Mafiascum, where when someone hits majority they get lynched. I didn't want to put Vivax at L-2 because we were goofing off. I'm still not entirely sure if that's how it works, but that's my best guess.
This. This is incredibly towny and it's so so so so sooooooo odd that Vivax mentioned it was scummy. Why would scum be CONCERNED about someone going to L-2???? It shows that while he was having fun he was also thinking about the consequences the fun could have on the actual game.
In fact the post vivax made: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=11#210
Reminded me of this post from titanic 3: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=47#924
Where he compared peoples "shifts in trolling to not trolling" (he was mafia). He takes Cavalinho's post totally out of context and adds on so many fluffy things "why didn't he mention anything about me", even though it's quite clearly explained in the post.
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However, I do note that the differences between Titanic and here is that Vivax "wants to know more" here, whereas he states in Titanic things are fact. Which brings me to Koshi's response.
I want him to answer this first before I go to any conclusions but it was a super odd response after just berating people for calling cav suspicious:
On May 06 2014 00:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I don't see why it is scummy. I don't understand how everybody takes everything serious what Cav did and tries to spin it into something scummy. koshi if that's the reason vivax came up with for disliking cav's reply and you liked his response then what did you LIKE about it in the first place to write this?
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On May 06 2014 00:58 Holyflare wrote:
Here's the chain of events:
1) Oats lies about my meta
2) I jump all over oats for this
3) Oats claims me jumping all over him for lying is an overreaction
4) I prove that what he did is a lie with meta
5) Oats says meta is useless -> says he's right because of meta -> says i'm scum for wanting to lynch a confirmed liar
6) Lynch oats
7) Profit. £££$$$$
1) Oats lies about HF Meta
2) HF gets irrationally mad about ti
3)Its an overreaction
4) Thats not that point
5) your meta is useless, you cant even read properly.
6) ezgame ezlyfe. lynch holyflare.
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It feels so fake holyflare. Is cav's stuff really the only thing you noticed?
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Are you actually kidding me oats? There is 0, absolutely 0 chance you are town this game.
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I point out everything about you and I point out stuff about vivax and koshi and cavalinho but suddenly:
On May 06 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
It feels so fake holyflare. Is cav's stuff really the only thing you noticed?
rofl
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Bote Count
Vivax (1): thrawn2112
Cavalinho (1): Steveling
Oatsmaster (1): HolyFlare
Steveling (2): Tehpoofter, Cavalinho
Not boting (5): mderg, Koshi, Oatsmaster, Vivax
With 9 it takes 5 Botes to get a majority. Remember to bote in the voting thread.
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mderg where have you gone? you can't just drop a 1 liner and leave again
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I´m still here, I don´t have anything to add right now.
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On May 06 2014 01:37 mderg wrote:
I´m still here, I don´t have anything to add right now.
On May 06 2014 00:26 mderg wrote:
I don´t understand your play right now, Oatsmaster. Why would you state something as fact, if you have no idea about it?
You stated this previously and then just sat back but me and oats have been talking for a while. Have you not gained anything else from that conversation that makes you lean in any direction?
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I still think Oats play was shit, he might be scum but that´s too big of a tell for just one stupid case.
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Why do I think HF is mafia now.
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This. This is incredibly towny and it's so so so so sooooooo odd that Vivax mentioned it was scummy. Why would scum be CONCERNED about someone going to L-2???? It shows that while he was having fun he was also thinking about the consequences the fun could have on the actual game.
I think it's this defense that rubs me the wrong way. "Why would scum do x" as a basis of a townread is stupid. Scum would do x you don't expect them to do in order to look more townie (for example me hard defending Cav last game even though I didn't have to). Good ol' WIFOM. Overall I feel like HF is picking sides way too strongly, and looks too confident with this and his push on Oats. But I'll observe further.
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On May 06 2014 01:15 Holyflare wrote:However, I do note that the differences between Titanic and here is that Vivax "wants to know more" here, whereas he states in Titanic things are fact. Which brings me to Koshi's response. I want him to answer this first before I go to any conclusions but it was a super odd response after just berating people for calling cav suspicious: Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 00:18 Holyflare wrote:On May 05 2014 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I don't see why it is scummy. I don't understand how everybody takes everything serious what Cav did and tries to spin it into something scummy. On May 05 2014 21:11 Koshi wrote:
that actually sounds smart. koshi if that's the reason vivax came up with for disliking cav's reply and you liked his response then what did you LIKE about it in the first place to write this?
Why does anyone have to like anything about my post in the first place?
It was a post I made when everyone was goofing off, and then all of a sudden I start watching out for L-2 botes and I'm the most suspicious guy in the thread? Wtf? How is that even a logical conclusion to jump to at all?
I do want to hear more from Koshi I guess, but Vivax is super suspicious to me right now. Steveling is doing silly shit too, but is pushing a possible inconsistency. I can see his line of thinking making sense, albeit being incorrect.
Vivax is twisting shit. Why would I bother mentioning you at all in a joke post? Why would I willingly just put you at L-2 for no reason whatsoever, off of yet another joke post? Furthermore, why would I need to justify myself when the case on you is obviously fake? What are you trying to pull?
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@Oats
Why do you feel like HF is trying too hard to be funny? I felt like his silly cases early game were meant to get discussion going and get the game started instead of having us joke about Game of Thrones and shit.
And what does chainsaw defending have to do with anything? Why is it bad? I don't understand your line of thinking at all.
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On May 06 2014 02:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +This. This is incredibly towny and it's so so so so sooooooo odd that Vivax mentioned it was scummy. Why would scum be CONCERNED about someone going to L-2???? It shows that while he was having fun he was also thinking about the consequences the fun could have on the actual game. I think it's this defense that rubs me the wrong way. "Why would scum do x" as a basis of a townread is stupid. Scum would do x you don't expect them to do in order to look more townie (for example me hard defending Cav last game even though I didn't have to). Good ol' WIFOM. Overall I feel like HF is picking sides way too strongly, and looks too confident with this and his push on Oats. But I'll observe further.
So what you're saying here is that scum do things that make them look towny all the time......? So you're saying that what he did makes him try to "appear" towny!? That is so backwards.
I see it like this -> we're pissing around I make some joke thing on you and me and thrawn joke vote you. Then I do the same thing with steveling, if we all went on you then that would be L-1 (big risk for obvious joke) poofter goes on steve to avoid this, cav does the same to avoid being at l-2. You return and point out that he hasn't talked about you and that he voted steve without saying anything!?!?!?
and you rationalise it by saying he went all serious mode for no reason...? That's what I don't understand and subsequently WHY koshi's response is so unfathomably strange and I want to know what he liked about cav's post before you said anything
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also why have you not mentioned anything about oats at all? he straight up lied about meta to get me lynched when the game was in clear troll mode but you neglect to say anything about that at all?
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