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On March 19 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:
You just proved my point dp. You say he's 100% scum but then aak questions after you've made the case trying to prove it.
Also thrawn, for now, ok.
Giggletummy posts are supee bad and my meta of him was very good, what do you guys think of that?
I have been asking questions all game. I didn't prove any point of yours.
If GT doesn't provide the promised explanation fro his vote we should lynch him. I'm off for a while.
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Uh what. That's exactly what hopeless said about rayn. Why does him coming back and posting absolve him from anything he's done this game? Reasons for a vote aren't alignment indicative.
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On March 19 2014 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
Uh what. That's exactly what hopeless said about rayn. Why does him coming back and posting absolve him from anything he's done this game? Reasons for a vote aren't alignment indicative.
Because I want to know the reasoning promised for his vote. And that might change my mind.
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Gmorning, gotta read some of the thread but there's this early situation I want to talk about.
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This by HF:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2014 06:40 Holyflare wrote:I have a theory. DP thinks this game is scum favoured. DP likes keeping his town ratio up. DP requests scum so as not to lose town win ratio. DP is scum. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/poLOdtj.png) On March 19 2014 06:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 06:50 DarthPunk wrote:Almost Forgot! On March 15 2014 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Before I get my role PM
If I am vig I will Vig Coag
If I am town I will try to lynch Coag
If I am scum I will shoot Coag
If I am scum I will try and lynch Coag ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GpuKR9R.jpg) and here is the proof: Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 09:37 DarthPunk wrote:
/out because of hydra's. They are OP as town and Crap as scum and honestly I don't see the point unless it is like a themed hydra game.
Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 06:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I hope you realise that coag is an OMGUS hydra so don't try and meta him PPL. Insta votes the coag hydra even though he has categorically stated that they are op as town and crap at scum, follows through with a shit policy when even in previous games he states: Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 08:48 DarthPunk wrote:
sup kids. I hate policy talk. That is my policy. I am vanilla town. (witchcraft as town) and doesn't try and find the alignment of the hydra! Has 1 page of filter already and it says nothing compared to most of the start to his games! gg 1 scum down
At this point I wasn't even sure that HF was serious on DP. The whole game was still in a trolly stage, and given that HF's case here is based on weak arguments I was expecting this to be a joke as well, but apparently HF is dead serious and kept looking for arguments to use on DP.
Then there's this post by DP:
On March 19 2014 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn was like Fuck yeah I am town. And then peace out. That is like the Anti-rayn. Perhaps it is the end of days. Perhaps Rayn is scum. Perhaps he is just busy. Find out next time in: 'Nothing much is happening Mafia'
It would look terrible at a later stage of the game, but given that it was exactly in the context of an early town it is not, hence I have issues with two players here who were basically the trigger for the game to go into serious mode.
HF cause he went from a jokey vote on DP to serious mode based on a post placed in such context.
Hopeless cause he didn't consider HF could be joking with his initial posts, and immediately proceeded to call him scum for it. HF's first post on DP was obviously a joke, how do you conclude that the second one has to be serious so quickly, no questions asked. I for myself didn't think DP was really a scumread until HF started calling hopeless scum as well.
Hence I would like these two to somehow explain why they saw the respective posts as something that should be taken seriously. I think there's a difference at early stages in how scum views the thread and how town does, which would be that scum looks for anything to use against a townie, and town just posts and rolls with the game until something noteworthy happens, and then try to let people expand on it. Hopeless and HF both went insta-you-scum-bro.
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Another thing I forgot to mention is that HF didn't go uscumbro on Palmar like he did on hopeless. The post where he said that he liked DP's post looked pretty bad to me until he explained that he didn't see the observation about rayn as alignment indicative yet thought it would come from a townie.
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On March 19 2014 14:49 Vivax wrote:
Another thing I forgot to mention is that HF didn't go uscumbro on Palmar like he did on hopeless. The post where he said that he liked DP's post looked pretty bad to me until he explained that he didn't see the observation about rayn as alignment indicative yet thought it would come from a townie.
The initial posts on dp were jokes. Then he started posting weird shit so i switched to serious mode. Hopeless was because he called me scum because of the scooby doo thing and then contextless reads on people.
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@vivax so to you the first person to call someone else scum off something is typically more mafia sided so what do you think of rayn? now that we know coag's flip do you think that speaks more positively or negatively of rayn?
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On March 19 2014 14:49 Vivax wrote:
Another thing I forgot to mention is that HF didn't go uscumbro on Palmar like he did on hopeless. The post where he said that he liked DP's post looked pretty bad to me until he explained that he didn't see the observation about rayn as alignment indicative yet thought it would come from a townie.
To add to my other post. The first hopeless post was a joke too (i referenced phoenix wright lol) but then he started being serious with odd cherry picked meta
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Palmar is also still iffy for me but he is europe so not been able to talk further at this point.
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On March 19 2014 14:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
@vivax so to you the first person to call someone else scum off something is typically more mafia sided so what do you think of rayn? now that we know coag's flip do you think that speaks more positively or negatively of rayn?
Still have to read about that push from Rayn, and it's not just the first person to call somebody scum, it's about how quickly that person does it. Typically you would expect the majority of people to be townies so going instascum on somebody without poking first is what I would see as scummy, in that regard Holyflare's reaction looks townier than hopeless since DP reacted before HF went scum on him . I gtg now.
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On March 19 2014 15:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 14:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
@vivax so to you the first person to call someone else scum off something is typically more mafia sided so what do you think of rayn? now that we know coag's flip do you think that speaks more positively or negatively of rayn? Still have to read about that push from Rayn, and it's not just the first person to call somebody scum, it's about how quickly that person does it. Typically you would expect the majority of people to be townies so going instascum on somebody without poking first is what I would see as scummy, in that regard Holyflare's reaction looks townier than hopeless since DP reacted before HF went scum on him . I gtg now.
I like that. I feel like thats a reasonable arguement and I kinda set you up to bury rayn there or throw some suspicion on him espeiclaly since he just came in and rando voted and didnt say anything. I don't think you're maf unless you're maf with exactly rayn here. From just a preliminary read I like the place your head is at vivax.
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On March 19 2014 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg such pages.
Reading now.
finished yet?
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On March 19 2014 15:27 thrawn2112 wrote:finished yet?
What do you think of giggletummy
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On March 19 2014 15:27 thrawn2112 wrote:finished yet?
I'll vouche hes playing video mafia atm so he probably isn't reading but hes probably still scum. Town can multitask!
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On March 19 2014 15:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 15:27 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg such pages.
Reading now. finished yet? What do you think of giggletummy
I haven't decided, I'd like to have this explained first
On March 19 2014 08:58 Giggletummy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 08:56 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 08:47 Giggletummy wrote:On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote:
The red reply thing? That was good.
3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply.
rayn kept up pressure.
Coag kept replying. With more caps.
I don't see overdefensive. Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive. On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm. What does that mean? I think you are scummy scum. Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless. I liked what Kush said. On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote:
pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush. For this post: On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.
Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.
I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be. I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point. Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased. -Koshi his judgement- replying for reasons Also what is this? It is me noting something for reasons. Will discuss later, want to talk to Flare
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He didn't even talk to me  just asked me about dp vote and voted me!
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Oh snap sk took immunity to checks
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16 faces must mean something!
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Is the op wrong? Is there no sk?
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