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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22250 Posts
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Elgar
United States231 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4919 Posts
Using similar historical reasoning I could claim Austria, Switzerland or even the Netherlands are just rebellious provinces of germany, which is ridiculous. Also I am sure there is a lot of envy because Taiwan was first to become a rich, developed country. edit: I wouldn´t blame PJ personally, from the chinese people on the net one can tell that his reaction is what a typical chinese feels is right in this situation. | ||
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bumpirate
United States122 Posts
[QUOTE]On October 09 2007 20:00 ambit!ous1 wrote: Damn Chinese think they own the whole world. [/QUOTE] Nope, "damn Chinese" just want their rebel island back....... Yea sure Tibet, Korea and Mongolia also want their land and history back. " Damn Chinese think they own the whole world " <--- QFT | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On October 09 2007 23:54 AK-Nemesis wrote: about 10% or less of people in Taiwan think they're more chinese than taiwanese. Where do you get this percentage from? Because just so you know, I'm from the province of Taiwan and I consider myself Chinese. | ||
lilsusie
3861 Posts
 I have Taiwanese friends who get really upset if you call them Chinese and ones who don't really care. I agree, it's mainly a pride thing. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On October 09 2007 22:43 EvilTeletubby wrote: And clearly you don't realize that the people of Taiwan consider themselves an independant country. For all intents and purposes, they are; they're economically and socially independant, just not officially in writing. It all comes down to pride... Once again, I'm from Taiwan. So I realize a good deal more than you on this topic. Most "conservative" Taiwanese people consider themselves "Chinese". They also tend to be more elitist and snobbish towards Mainland people because Taiwanese people tend to be more gentry while Mainland are more stereotyped to them as villagers. On October 10 2007 00:24 lilsusie wrote: It's like Texas thinking that they are their own country... I have Taiwanese friends who get really upset if you call them Chinese and ones who don't really care. I agree, it's mainly a pride thing. Pretty much. My father for example considers himself Chinese. (As does his siblings). My grandfather considers himself Taiwanese though if you asked him what his nationality is, he'll probably still say China. | ||
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-WGT-Stars-
United States888 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On October 10 2007 00:26 -WGT-Stars- wrote: IT happened I was there and saw the whole thing lol pj actually was leading the group that asshole >.> This isn't about if it happened or not, this is about what PJ actually said. It doesn't matter if you were there as witness or not, did you know what PJ actually said? I doubt it because PJ doesn't speak very good English so unless you understand Mandarin... The whole article was entirely told from the Taiwanese ministry so I'm pretty sure there's a certain bias to it all. | ||
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Powerpill
United States1692 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On October 09 2007 22:46 besiger.cry wrote: if they are considered just a chinese province whats up with this ? ** On September 30, 2007, Taiwan's ruling Democratic Progressive Party approved a resolution asserting separate identity from China and called for the enactment of a new constitution for a "normal country" . It called also for general use of "Taiwan" as the island's name, without abolishing its formal name, the Republic of China ** i mean its his damn right to raise his flag without someone making dibs on his country attacking him The Confederacy during the Civil War did the same thing. Were they considered their own independant country during that time? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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mayap
United States185 Posts
if any country (yes taiwan is a country) is oppressed by another country (i.e china) the people will feel a sense of nationalism and that poor kid was trying to represent his country and his people, let him have his moment instead of trying to oppresse him like any colonialist country does, i dont know this taiwanese guy but reading this made me really sad and if this would have happened to someone like sen i would have been so fucking pissed, your a tool pj and u have no balls if you went up to a 17 year old kid with ur friends trying to provoke him | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
 lololhmm... as for taiwan vs china...... no comment really. personally i treat taiwan like a seperate country. | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On October 10 2007 00:35 mayap wrote: wow if this is true pj is a fucking faggot and i wish that tawainese kid punched him out, obviously hes gonna represent his country by showing a flag what the fuck does that have to do with pj and his little chinese friends? mind ur own busniss and let him be, do you really think your tuff going at a 17 year old kid with a group and bullying him, if you were for real you woulda went alone and spoke with him individually without anyone else backing you up if any country (yes taiwan is a country) is oppressed by another country (i.e china) the people will feel a sense of nationalism and that poor kid was trying to represent his country and his people, let him have his moment instead of trying to oppresse him like any colonialist country does, i dont know this taiwanese guy but reading this made me really sad and if this would have happened to someone like sen i would have been so fucking pissed, your a tool pj and u have no balls if you went up to a 17 year old kid with ur friends trying to provoke him lol | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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NoName
United States1558 Posts
China will never get Taiwan back peacefully because China will always be a terrible and corrupt dictatorship. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On October 10 2007 00:44 NoName wrote: Taiwan people suffered many decades of brutal dictatorship under Japan and Chinese Nationalist exiles, until they finally gained democracy. Now all the people are doing much better under democracy. They aren't stupid or cowardly enough to just give all that away to to China, just because China says boo!. China will never get Taiwan back peacefully because China will always be a terrible and corrupt dictatorship. What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese Nationalist Exiles are STILL in control of Taiwan. Is this post a joke? | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On October 10 2007 00:26 -WGT-Stars- wrote: IT happened I was there and saw the whole thing lol pj actually was leading the group that asshole >.> You stay out of this, afaik you were atacking, in gangs, homeless people (at least pj had some pseudo-real motivation behind his actions). http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/chu3.html (is funny). The United Nations treats Taiwan as an autonomous province of China. WCG does not recognise Taiwan as a country (like someone said). Chinese taipei had individual qualies because they are autonomous not because they are a country. Now, many of you have a very (maybe too) subjective way of viewing things. The problem is you never put yourself in pj's (or other patriotic chinese) place. China will never get Taiwan back peacefully because China will always be a terrible and corrupt dictatorship. And how do you know they have a terrible and corrupt dictatorship? | ||
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-WGT-Stars-
United States888 Posts
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