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On October 10 2007 00:44 NoName wrote:
Taiwan people suffered many decades of brutal dictatorship under Japan and Chinese Nationalist exiles, until they finally gained democracy. Now all the people are doing much better under democracy. They aren't stupid or cowardly enough to just give all that away to to China, just because China says boo!.
China will never get Taiwan back peacefully because China will always be a terrible and corrupt dictatorship.
China will eventually take Taiwan back, peacefully or not peacefully -_-;;
1.6 billion marines > 100,000 Wraiths
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It's true cause China has more macro.
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Oh here we go again with the starcraft jokes
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we could argue for days about whether taiwan is chinese or not, but the chinese still had no right whatsoever attacking him (if they did, i will assume they did, since witnesses are here and security was allegedly involved)
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...what's your problem with the Chinese?
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On October 10 2007 00:22 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2007 23:54 AK-Nemesis wrote:
about 10% or less of people in Taiwan think they're more chinese than taiwanese.
Where do you get this percentage from? Because just so you know, I'm from the province of Taiwan and I consider myself Chinese.
i was so hoping you wouldn't have to do this, because bringing our nationality out confounds people's judgment in this regard.
I'm a Taiwanese. I was born in taiwan, and moved out of taiwan at the age of 12. i'm now 23 and have been living back in taiwan for the past year. No, you do not see a single chinese flag on the streets of taiwan. No, majority of people here do not tell you they're chinese. No. my father does not say he's chinese, nor does my grandfather.
anyways, a poll was done from 1994 and 2002 the people that thought they were identified with chinese decreased from 25% to 10%
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Mainland Chinese are gansta
On October 10 2007 00:49 KissBlade wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese Nationalist Exiles are STILL in control of Taiwan. Is this post a joke?
I suggest you read some news beyond your censorship firewall. (ooh, I wonder why China has to censor so much information. Maybe to keep its peons brainwashed.)
There is such a political philosophy known around the world as democracy, which works. So, yes, even though some descendants of Chinese nationalists are still in Taiwan, (many have emigrated), they are now just one political party of many in Taiwan, that the people choose from to govern, based on who they believe will do the best job. This is what is known around the world as democracy.
Taiwan also has universal health care and free education. Much more than can be said for China.
If things are so great in China, why do so many mainland Chinese try to illegally sneak out of China and into other countries around the world? China bullying is like when Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because Saddam Hussein was jealous and greedy for Kuwait success and wealth.
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On October 09 2007 22:04 atheist13 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2007 20:00 ambit!ous1 wrote:
Damn Chinese think they own the whole world. Nope, "damn Chinese" just want their rebel island back. What PJ did was petty and foolish, but Taiwan IS part of China. They speak the same language, they share the same history, yet the Taiwanese act like they are superior to their mainland cousins for reasons yet to be determined. I do not wish to offend any Taiwanese on the these boards, but I live in China, so while I may be a little biased. I think though one may agree with me in saying that this entire business is an embarrassment for all parties involved, both the Chinese and the Taiwanese.
maybe it has everything to do with your Government and how they run things? Everyone knows china has serious problems.
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On October 10 2007 01:15 NoName wrote:Mainland Chinese are gansta Show nested quote +On October 10 2007 00:49 KissBlade wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese Nationalist Exiles are STILL in control of Taiwan. Is this post a joke? I suggest you read some news beyond your censorship firewall. (ooh, I wonder why China has to censor so much information. Maybe to keep its peons brainwashed.) There is such a political philosophy known around the world as democracy, which works. So, yes, even though some descendants of Chinese nationalists are still in Taiwan, (many have emigrated), they are now just one political party of many in Taiwan, that the people choose from to govern, based on who they believe will do the best job. This is what is known around the world as democracy. Taiwan also has universal health care and free education. Much more than can be said for China. If things are so great in China, why do so many mainland Chinese try to illegally sneak out of China and into other countries around the world? China bullying is like when Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because Saddam Hussein was jealous and greedy for Kuwait success and wealth.
Sounds to me more like you're the one brainwashed. This post is so uneducated on so many levels I have no idea where to start dissecting. Honestly, I wouldnt' be surprised if this was George Bush posting.
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On October 10 2007 01:11 AK-Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2007 00:22 KissBlade wrote:On October 09 2007 23:54 AK-Nemesis wrote:
about 10% or less of people in Taiwan think they're more chinese than taiwanese.
Where do you get this percentage from? Because just so you know, I'm from the province of Taiwan and I consider myself Chinese. i was so hoping you wouldn't have to do this, because bringing our nationality out confounds people's judgment in this regard. I'm a Taiwanese. I was born in taiwan, and moved out of taiwan at the age of 12. i'm now 23 and have been living back in taiwan for the past year. No, you do not see a single chinese flag on the streets of taiwan. No, majority of people here do not tell you they're chinese. No. my father does not say he's chinese, nor does my grandfather.
If that's true than what is the Pan Blue political party stance towards the whole matter? (Pretty much the equivalent of the Republicans for people not informed of Taiwanese politics_
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interesting topic for me imo, I dont know the exact story behind China and Taiwan, but If its not like the US with the confederate flag(which represents racism and oppression) I dont see what the big deal is. Pretty fucking dumb to go after him over the flag when you consider you are just a pawn for the chinese government anyway.
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On October 09 2007 19:32 SpringWind wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2007 19:26 EpiK wrote:that is so fucked up on so many levels.. On October 09 2007 19:25 SpringWind wrote:
stupid taiwan media
Pj just said to let him put that flag down,never said "son of a bitch" or whatever so? The Taiwanese guy should have the right to represent his country. Taiwan is a province of China
No it's not. Stop claiming it
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On October 10 2007 01:26 Sadist wrote:
interesting topic for me imo, I dont know the exact story behind China and Taiwan, but If its not like the US with the confederate flag(which represents racism and oppression) I dont see what the big deal is. .
The civil war did not start over slavery.
PS. This isn't directed to you but it's amazing how people are accusing others of being misinformed by foreign government when they're so misled by their own about their history.
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On October 10 2007 01:27 {ToT}Strafe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2007 19:32 SpringWind wrote:On October 09 2007 19:26 EpiK wrote:that is so fucked up on so many levels.. On October 09 2007 19:25 SpringWind wrote:
stupid taiwan media
Pj just said to let him put that flag down,never said "son of a bitch" or whatever so? The Taiwanese guy should have the right to represent his country. Taiwan is a province of China No it's not. Stop claiming it
Yes it is. Stop denying that.
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On October 10 2007 01:22 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2007 01:15 NoName wrote:Mainland Chinese are gansta On October 10 2007 00:49 KissBlade wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese Nationalist Exiles are STILL in control of Taiwan. Is this post a joke? I suggest you read some news beyond your censorship firewall. (ooh, I wonder why China has to censor so much information. Maybe to keep its peons brainwashed.) There is such a political philosophy known around the world as democracy, which works. So, yes, even though some descendants of Chinese nationalists are still in Taiwan, (many have emigrated), they are now just one political party of many in Taiwan, that the people choose from to govern, based on who they believe will do the best job. This is what is known around the world as democracy. Taiwan also has universal health care and free education. Much more than can be said for China. If things are so great in China, why do so many mainland Chinese try to illegally sneak out of China and into other countries around the world? China bullying is like when Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because Saddam Hussein was jealous and greedy for Kuwait success and wealth. Sounds to me more like you're the one brainwashed. This post is so uneducated on so many levels I have no idea where to start dissecting. Honestly, I wouldnt' be surprised if this was George Bush posting.
STFU NOOB
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On October 10 2007 01:29 ambit!ous1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2007 01:22 KissBlade wrote:On October 10 2007 01:15 NoName wrote:Mainland Chinese are gansta On October 10 2007 00:49 KissBlade wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese Nationalist Exiles are STILL in control of Taiwan. Is this post a joke? I suggest you read some news beyond your censorship firewall. (ooh, I wonder why China has to censor so much information. Maybe to keep its peons brainwashed.) There is such a political philosophy known around the world as democracy, which works. So, yes, even though some descendants of Chinese nationalists are still in Taiwan, (many have emigrated), they are now just one political party of many in Taiwan, that the people choose from to govern, based on who they believe will do the best job. This is what is known around the world as democracy. Taiwan also has universal health care and free education. Much more than can be said for China. If things are so great in China, why do so many mainland Chinese try to illegally sneak out of China and into other countries around the world? China bullying is like when Iraq trying to invade Kuwait because Saddam Hussein was jealous and greedy for Kuwait success and wealth. Sounds to me more like you're the one brainwashed. This post is so uneducated on so many levels I have no idea where to start dissecting. Honestly, I wouldnt' be surprised if this was George Bush posting. STFU NOOB
Troll elsewhere for your attention?
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Taiwan is fucked no matter what T.T If china attacks them and takes them back forcefully either US helps or we sit back and watch but if we help that just might cause WW3 gg >.>
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On October 10 2007 01:32 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
Taiwan is fucked no matter what T.T If china attacks them and takes them back forcefully either US helps or we sit back and watch but if we help that just might cause WW3 gg >.>
I can say with absolute certainly US will not help militarily. (If they help at all) China is one of the US's major trading partners. China is a major powers in the world as well as occupant of one of the seats in the UN. Taiwan isn't even recognized by the US as an independant country.
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Chinese ppl get fucked around by their government, by them not mentioning historical events, filtering media and communication, and they still support their government so much.
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US is not gonna just sit there and watch as China rapes Taiwan. Taiwan is a good base for US to put China in check.
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