Why are you people arguing politics? It's off topic and avoiding it was specifically requested.

Anyway it's sad how WCG fails at bringing people of the world together through a common interest. Although I don't see what WCG can do about these incidents of ill-feelings and inappropriate behavior, their regular occurence certainly shits all over WCG's ideals of fairplay and respect.

Naivete and/or ignorance do not excuse the players' actions. There exists no political situation that would justify what they did nor absolve them of responsibility.

KissBlade

United States5718 Posts

October 09 2007 18:21 GMT

#122

On October 10 2007 03:18 azndsh wrote:
The point is that China commits egregious human rights violations, and that any defense of it on this forum is going to be flamed. Furthermore, creating such a fuss about someone putting up a Taiwanese flag at WCG is even more undeniably stupid.

I didn't defend any of those points. I just failed to see what they had to do with the statement that Taiwan is considered a part of China. Basically, this was the last six pages. Someone: Taiwan is a province of China. Person 2: No it's not. Me: Yes it actually is. Person 3: Human rights, tibet, BBQ. Strafe: Stop talking KissBlade, you're being censored by your government.

It's comedic yet stupid.

Bottem line for me is, I think everyone in China agrees some things can change in the better. But we'd rather leave that choice to us, the Chinese rather than outside foreigners pointing fingers and trying to make their own labels on things.

OverTheUnder

United States2929 Posts

October 09 2007 18:26 GMT

#123

regardless of the taiwan/china situation, if Pj even made any sort of advancement ( by himself or part of a group) or even an OFFHAND comment to this player, then I have pretty much lost my respect for him. I also won't be supporting him in any games from now on;(

SmileOrDie2

Canada6 Posts

October 09 2007 18:27 GMT

#124

CHINESE MAFIA FIGHTING

chobopeon

United States7342 Posts

October 09 2007 18:31 GMT

#125

On October 10 2007 01:35 himurakenshin wrote:
Chinese ppl get fucked around by their government, by them not mentioning historical events, filtering media and communication, and they still support their government so much.

perhaps thats one of the major reasons they do support their government so much? not in spite of it but because of it.

its a technique used for that effect, anyway, the world over.

Jayson X

Switzerland2431 Posts

October 09 2007 18:35 GMT

#126

Let it be strafe & co. There's no use to it. It's politics.

I'm from tibet. I am tibetan. And no force, no goverment, no weapon, no argument on earth can take that away from me.

Replace my countrys name with whatever you wan't

You-chen showed the flag he feels connected to. And that's all that matters. A few words or fights won't change no minds. It's a heart thing you now..

anch

United States5457 Posts

October 09 2007 18:37 GMT

#127

Chinese ppl with aggros just cant get over this, I hate it when a country takes credit for where its not from. Taiwan is a different country and they have their right to represent in WCG. Obviously, you cant represent or raise a flag for a country you never been in.

lingwu

Japan321 Posts

October 09 2007 18:49 GMT

#128

pj is showing his true colors.. communist freaks!!!

AK-Nemesis

2005 Posts

October 09 2007 18:50 GMT

#129

On October 10 2007 03:21 KissBlade wrote:

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how about leave the choice to Taiwanese, the people who actually live in Taiwan, rather than outside foreigners like the chinese from China?

[]Dlayer

United States15 Posts

October 09 2007 18:59 GMT

#130

Wow if this is true, I've really lost respect for PJ. That's a shame....

Funchucks

Canada2113 Posts

October 09 2007 19:15 GMT

#131

It's hard to recognize Taiwan as independent when its constitution makes it a temporary base for the government-in-exile of a unified China.

Taiwan has evolved into a prosperous liberal democracy (unlike the country its founding government was driven out of), but it hasn't changed its constitution yet (looks like this will happen soon, however).

Once Taiwan's constitution is updated to reflect the reality of the situation, it will be a lot harder for the rest of the world to call it part of China.

Hot_Bid

Braavos36383 Posts

October 09 2007 19:22 GMT

#132

This is why we close every political/nationalist thread in this forum. There is just too much ignorance and bias to discuss this productively. It just results in angry people and random flames from bigots.

If you want to know more about the China/Taiwan situation, go find more credible sources than what some people say on a forum. Just realize that this issue is much more complicated than any one view articulated in this thread. None of the developed opinions here are wholly "correct."