He was bad at IEM NY
I think SoO takes it
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lantz
United States762 Posts
April 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#1121
He was bad at IEM NY I think SoO takes it | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
April 25 2014 18:15 GMT
#1122
On April 26 2014 02:57 lantz wrote: Zest is overrated, He was bad at IEM NY I think SoO takes it Yeah i know right, his results 6 months ago just don't allow him to be the favorite now | ||
liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
April 25 2014 18:21 GMT
#1123
On April 26 2014 02:57 lantz wrote: Zest is overrated, He was bad at IEM NY I think SoO takes it Youre supposed to be a bit less obvious when you be sarcastic, but funny none the less. I think San will shock us again against Parting. Zest v Parting finals would be nice though, they put on some great PvP the other day. | ||
LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
April 25 2014 19:59 GMT
#1124
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
April 25 2014 20:08 GMT
#1125
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
April 25 2014 20:09 GMT
#1126
Otherwise, San got this I think | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
April 25 2014 20:17 GMT
#1127
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
April 25 2014 20:36 GMT
#1128
And a Zest vs SoO rematch. Oh yes. | ||
negativedge
4278 Posts
April 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#1129
so sad I didn't get to watch this because my internet died last night ;_; | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
April 25 2014 22:14 GMT
#1130
MMA finished 3-4 in maps Maru finished 3-5 in maps MMA > Maru MMA best Terran + Show Spoiler + I am slightly joking | ||
Clicker
United States1012 Posts
April 25 2014 22:18 GMT
#1131
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
April 25 2014 22:57 GMT
#1132
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baubo
China3370 Posts
April 25 2014 23:54 GMT
#1133
. . Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long. Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost. | ||
SirPinky
United States525 Posts
April 26 2014 01:05 GMT
#1134
On April 26 2014 08:54 baubo wrote: Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2. . . Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long. Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost. Stop the balance discussion/langauge and enjoy the PvP/PvZ finals...again...and again...and again. There is nothing wrong, you're right, Terran's just make too many mistakes and don't know how to play their race. Please bestow us your GSL progaming wisdom. | ||
baubo
China3370 Posts
April 26 2014 01:22 GMT
#1135
On April 26 2014 10:05 SirPinky wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2014 08:54 baubo wrote: Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2. . . Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long. Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost. Stop the balance discussion/langauge and enjoy the PvP/PvZ finals...again...and again...and again. There is nothing wrong, you're right, Terran's just make too many mistakes and don't know how to play their race. Please bestow us your GSL progaming wisdom. Yes. Because I'm not GM on Korean ladder therefore my opinion's worthless. And everyone else here who complains that Maru lost because of race imba are obviously progamers who knows their stuff. Maru lost game 2 because Alterzim Stronghold's a ridiculously huge map and with cross-spawns. If you want to blame map imba, so be it. TvZ historically regardless of patching has always been more advantageous to zerg in proportion to distance(you can ask progamers on this and I'm certain they'll agree with me). There's nothing Blizzard can do about that except give terran drop pod ability or something that was in the campaigns. But I dare you to find me a terran progamer who can claim that TvZ on Frost with horizontal spawn positions is imba towards zerg and terran can't win on it. | ||
SirPinky
United States525 Posts
April 26 2014 01:34 GMT
#1136
On April 26 2014 10:22 baubo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2014 10:05 SirPinky wrote: On April 26 2014 08:54 baubo wrote: Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2. . . Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long. Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost. Stop the balance discussion/langauge and enjoy the PvP/PvZ finals...again...and again...and again. There is nothing wrong, you're right, Terran's just make too many mistakes and don't know how to play their race. Please bestow us your GSL progaming wisdom. Yes. Because I'm not GM on Korean ladder therefore my opinion's worthless. And everyone else here who complains that Maru lost because of race imba are obviously progamers who knows their stuff. Maru lost game 2 because Alterzim Stronghold's a ridiculously huge map and with cross-spawns. If you want to blame map imba, so be it. TvZ historically regardless of patching has always been more advantageous to zerg in proportion to distance(you can ask progamers on this and I'm certain they'll agree with me). There's nothing Blizzard can do about that except give terran drop pod ability or something that was in the campaigns. But I dare you to find me a terran progamer who can claim that TvZ on Frost with horizontal spawn positions is imba towards zerg and terran can't win on it. I don't disagree with you I think the maps this season are very Zerg favored with their size and distance to the 3rd - some taking 5 depots and a bunker to wall-off? Combined with the PvT "issues" I think it speaks to the low presence of Terran. But I think TvZ in is a good state other than the fact I think some builds are too easy and powerful to excute; nonetheless, they can be held with scouting properly. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24919 Posts
April 26 2014 03:30 GMT
#1137
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
April 26 2014 03:40 GMT
#1138
On April 26 2014 07:14 Bagration wrote: As a MMA fan: MMA finished 3-4 in maps Maru finished 3-5 in maps MMA > Maru MMA best Terran + Show Spoiler + I am slightly joking Also beat San who beat Maru. MMA confirmed best Terran in the world | ||
Shellshock
United States97252 Posts
April 26 2014 03:41 GMT
#1139
On April 26 2014 12:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2014 07:14 Bagration wrote: As a MMA fan: MMA finished 3-4 in maps Maru finished 3-5 in maps MMA > Maru MMA best Terran + Show Spoiler + I am slightly joking Also beat San who beat Maru. MMA confirmed best Terran in the world gom listed Parting as Terran and he's in the Ro4 so you're both wrong | ||
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