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I can't believe no topic is up about it yet. So here it goes:
Ex, white-ra and Stork are in a 3 way tie. So they needed rematch.
1st rematch was Stork vs Ex
They played and Stork won Ex signed the sheet saying he lost and all was good
That was counting without the cunning senses of the Storm Observer himself, Tasteless.
See, Tasteless saw Stork placing an observer on on of Ex turret during te game. Now that my friends is called an observer bug and it is banned from any respectable tournament.
Instead of just shutting the fuck up (what anyone who would not risk upsetting the whole korean fanbase of starcraft would do), Tasteless told the teachers err the referees...
What followed was a huge controversy (huge in the korean way) The referee debated what to do and in a matter of minutes, all the korean press was there. Big buzzzz all over.
The referee gave a rematch to Ex, who lost.
Now, that doesn't seem like a big deal to Stork, but it is.
The koreans do not seem to take lightly something like tis from one of their own.
I personally hope they will let go, cause Stork is a nice guy, and that is not too much of a deal.
But you guys probably have your own idea about it, so let the flame war start.
(anyone who was there and who want to add to my version is welcome to, I do not have the infuse science about all tat incident
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Why? It's completely legal in Korean Tournaments because its possible to stop the jam by just simply pressing stop on the Turret.
It was just a simple misunderstanding from Stork, believeing that he thought it was legal.
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Cadical
United States469 Posts
it's probably because observer over a turret is not banned in korea
terran player can just press ssssss on the turret and kill off the observer
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lol, ban stork! xD
hm thanks for sharing what's going on. I think if the obs stayed there just for a lil while and wasn't a setback for ex, there should be no problems, but if it was critical or on purpose then rematch/loss gogo.
edit: oh 4 people posted before me... romeo, you linked to the rules pic, not the rules itself.
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I didn't know it was legal in korean tournament, interesting... didn't know about the stop thing either. I am really glad I woke up this morning, I learned 2 thing
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if boxer didnt get banned for that lil ally mine thing then i dont see why stork should be banned for this one
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On October 06 2007 10:51 GTR-2-Go wrote: Why? It's completely legal in Korean Tournaments because its possible to stop the jam by just simply pressing stop on the Turret.
It was just a simple misunderstanding from Stork, believeing that he thought it was legal.
You know, I was in a martial arts tournament once which allowed no knees in the clinch.... I didn't read that part of the rules, so when I clinched and kneed, then the guy got KO'd...I got disqualified.
It is the competitors job to learn the rules beforehand.
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d4d's description of how everyone found out about the bug is pretty inaccurate
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its the rules blablabla..
but because i dont think obs over turret should be illegal..im fine with stork
come on...is just spam sss or aaa...not a big deal put more "micro" in our game =)
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Don't blame Tasteless. >: [
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Wow that's odd ...
Couldn't it just be that Stork didn't know that he was forcing the Observer on top of the Turret? Maybe if we can get an FPVOD or something of that game maybe we'll be able to tell if Stork was indeed exploiting this bug?
Even if it is allowed in Korean tournaments, Stork should've known.
Although I don't want him DQed; I want him to win
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Whoa wait, the observer glitch isn't banned in korea? And the terran can unjam the turret?
I guess i would understand if they were nazis about the rules...but Stork deserves some credit here.
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On October 06 2007 11:15 Dknight wrote: d4d's description of how everyone found out about the bug is pretty inaccurate
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Errr, no it's not. It's simplified but if you want to correct it, just go ahead and do it, don't just diss that without adding anything dude, that's not the way to go.
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1- It's stupid to ban this bug, it's very easy to avoid. But if you don't notice it in time, it might give your opponent a great advantage, ie shuttles passing by won't get hit, not to mention your opponent seeing your stuff. 2- Technically, stork should have been disq'd imo, not reading the rules is not a good excuse.
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Stupid rule. But if they want to enforce them don't the rules state he should be DQed?
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Poor Stork. :[
Edit: Disqualifying Stork would be very unusual, seeing as how WCG is sponsored by Samsung...
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:24 LG)Sabbath wrote: 1- It's stupid to ban this bug, it's very easy to avoid. But if you don't notice it in time, it might give your opponent a great advantage, ie shuttles passing by won't get hit, not to mention your opponent seeing your stuff. 2- Technically, stork should have been disq'd imo, not reading the rules is not a good excuse. what sabbath said, mind you, I don't know about disqualification (I guess you meant loss game?).. it's a little harsh for 1st time use of a bug.. plus what if bug use is unintentional? Anyway even when intentional I think the rule is *Intentional Use of Game/Program Bugs: A warning at the minimum or Loss by Default and it's always the referee's call. Personally if the bug didn't have much impact on the game I would have called a warning only (and not a rematch) unless I wanted to see more stork action (in a good way, i.e. more Korean progamer ownage lol)
* wcg 2007 starcraft-broodwar rules - pdf
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