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WCG 07 Turret, Observer and Storm - Page 2

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 06 2007 04:04 GMT
#21
On October 06 2007 11:28 Equinox_kr wrote:
Wow that's odd ...

Couldn't it just be that Stork didn't know that he was forcing the Observer on top of the Turret? Maybe if we can get an FPVOD or something of that game maybe we'll be able to tell if Stork was indeed exploiting this bug?

Even if it is allowed in Korean tournaments, Stork should've known.

Although I don't want him DQed; I want him to win


How exactly do you unintentionally turret stall?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
October 06 2007 04:12 GMT
#22
On October 06 2007 11:28 Equinox_kr wrote:
Wow that's odd ...

Couldn't it just be that Stork didn't know that he was forcing the Observer on top of the Turret? Maybe if we can get an FPVOD or something of that game maybe we'll be able to tell if Stork was indeed exploiting this bug?

Even if it is allowed in Korean tournaments, Stork should've known.

Although I don't want him DQed; I want him to win

You have to click multiple times on the turret to make it work.
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
October 06 2007 04:26 GMT
#23
DQing a korean progamer on the first offence is a slap in the face to koreans. I essentially thought the rule just meant that if such bug was used, the player would get warned. Not immediately DQ'ed.

Stork > Ex regardless if he used any type of bug. So DQ'ing him wouldn't make any sense whatsoever other than getting another community mad.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 06 2007 04:28 GMT
#24
Everyone forgetting that Ex signed the sheet.
returns upon momentous occasions.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 06 2007 04:57 GMT
#25
On October 06 2007 13:26 Lycaeus wrote:
DQing a korean progamer on the first offence is a slap in the face to koreans. I essentially thought the rule just meant that if such bug was used, the player would get warned. Not immediately DQ'ed.

Stork > Ex regardless if he used any type of bug. So DQ'ing him wouldn't make any sense whatsoever other than getting another community mad.


You have to think these guys come from a league were rules are severe. Players get a lose for pausing the game, etc.


Also Ex signed whatever paper, but:

Tournament rules > paper

imo.
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koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
October 06 2007 05:11 GMT
#26
and to these guys, that bug isnt illegal, so what u said wow has no meaning whatsoever
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mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 06 2007 05:27 GMT
#27
On October 06 2007 14:11 koryano321 wrote:
and to these guys, that bug isnt illegal, so what u said wow has no meaning whatsoever

To WHOM that bug isn't illegal? This is WCG not a Starleague so saying not knowing the rules here are different is a very unacceptable excuse.
And also you cannot say that just because Stork was going to win nevertheless, he should not be punished, that's ridiculous.
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InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
October 06 2007 05:36 GMT
#28
On October 06 2007 14:27 mrdx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 14:11 koryano321 wrote:
and to these guys, that bug isnt illegal, so what u said wow has no meaning whatsoever

To WHOM that bug isn't illegal? This is WCG not a Starleague so saying not knowing the rules here are different is a very unacceptable excuse.
And also you cannot say that just because Stork was going to win nevertheless, he should not be punished, that's ridiculous.

He was punished with rematch.
Coach
Profile Joined February 2007
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-06 05:50:26
October 06 2007 05:37 GMT
#29
WCG 07 blog: KeSPA’s #1 ranked StarCraft player exploits during match
We just got this breaking report that StarCraft owner Song “Stork” Byung Goo used a banned bug in his group tiebreaker match against IP.EX. It’s unclear why Stork, the KeSPA’s #1 ranked StarCraft player as of this month, whipped out the exploit, but GGL Wire’s Nick “Tasteless” Plott narrates this shakycam footage of the event and outcome.
Video: Direct Link to Video
Source: GGL Wire
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 06 2007 05:37 GMT
#30
On October 06 2007 14:11 koryano321 wrote:
and to these guys, that bug isnt illegal, so what u said wow has no meaning whatsoever

yes, it is

and 99% it was intentional, the odds of ex happening to build a turret exactly under an obs so that it stalled on its own (that does work if it happens just right) are very very low.
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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
October 06 2007 05:44 GMT
#31
I am getting so disenchanted by WCG these few days.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
October 06 2007 05:47 GMT
#32
On October 06 2007 14:37 Coach wrote:
WCG 07 blog: KeSPA’s #1 ranked StarCraft player exploits during match
We just got this breaking report that StarCraft owner Song “Stork” Byung Goo used a banned bug in his group tiebreaker match against IP.EX. It’s unclear why Stork, the KeSPA’s #1 ranked StarCraft player as of this month, whipped out the exploit, but GGL Wire’s Nick “Tasteless” Plott narrates this shakycam footage of the event and outcome.
Video: http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1231046196/bctid1231017722

Source: GGL Wire





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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 06 2007 05:51 GMT
#33
On October 06 2007 13:28 HonestTea wrote:
Everyone forgetting that Ex signed the sheet.


Not only that, but the referees were informed, and they made a decision. Why on earth would anyone want Stork to be disqualified after that?
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bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
October 06 2007 05:54 GMT
#34
Wasn't Stork already warned about something else though?
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7224 Posts
October 06 2007 05:55 GMT
#35
The rules say the player may be punished with as little as a warning, a rematch is an acceptable punishment.
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InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
October 06 2007 05:58 GMT
#36
On October 06 2007 14:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 13:28 HonestTea wrote:
Everyone forgetting that Ex signed the sheet.


Not only that, but the referees were informed, and they made a decision. Why on earth would anyone want Stork to be disqualified after that?

Maybe people pissed he tried to "fix brackets" loosing on purpose (if that's even true) ~_~
People wanting one of the most skilled person, one of the few reasons why wcg is interesting - at least for me - to be kicked from tournament, ignoring the fact he was already punished, kinda, make me sad
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 06 2007 06:37 GMT
#37
So what counts as bugs then? Mutalisk clustering? Drone drilling? Magic boxes? I find it hard to believe these were intended by Blizzard as non bugs.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 06 2007 06:51 GMT
#38
irrelevant, thats a different debate
wcg's set rules are what matters, and they have turret stalling banned, whether it should be or not.
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
October 06 2007 06:51 GMT
#39
On October 06 2007 14:37 Coach wrote:
WCG 07 blog: KeSPA’s #1 ranked StarCraft player exploits during match
We just got this breaking report that StarCraft owner Song “Stork” Byung Goo used a banned bug in his group tiebreaker match against IP.EX. It’s unclear why Stork, the KeSPA’s #1 ranked StarCraft player as of this month, whipped out the exploit, but GGL Wire’s Nick “Tasteless” Plott narrates this shakycam footage of the event and outcome.
Video: Direct Link to Video
Source: GGL Wire


Man, Tasteless is such a pimp. Go Storm Observer ! Kick some korean ass !
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
lingwu
Profile Joined August 2004
Japan321 Posts
October 06 2007 07:11 GMT
#40
do you think doing that bug wins the game for stork? no way.. rules are dead, humans are live. give the win to stork and or at least a rematch . BOOO !
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