EPTIt's obvious what's really motivating him here. He's mafia, and caught, and doing everything he can to discredit me.
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
It's obvious what's really motivating him here. He's mafia, and caught, and doing everything he can to discredit me. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
My turn! sqrt, if you were a compulsive vig, who dies tonight based on what you know right now? | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1158 Posts
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Pixalated
Singapore38 Posts
@Onceking, wasn't around as lynch was 6am for me, and i had a long day yesterday and was really tired, and had school today as well. Slept through alarm. Wanted to wait for val to respond to your case actually, but decided to just go sleep. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 28 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote: Explain to me how going from to because I started disagreeing with you is at all town behavior. If that's not what you're referencing, then explain how I'm twisting anything around, because that's the only part that's remotely contentious about what I said. I said your actions re: the cop claimant are null and they aren't a factor in my read, so there's no twisting of that set of actions going on, and everything else is derivative from my scumread on you. This is 100% inaccurate. The majority of your premise for me being mafia is that I was defending my partner. Clearly that's not the fucking case as Cavalinho wasn't mafia. It's also not the case because I DIDN'T FUCKING DEFEND CAVALINHO UNTIL HE FUCKING CLAIMED COP. I don't care what game your playing or what fucking world you live in, but you don't fucking lynch a cop claim in that spot. You were town in my eyes when you weren't fucking blatantly lying and shoving false truths down people's throats, but now it's readily apparent that you are just trying to push your own agenda, which clearly involved killing someone who claimed cop. I expressed that I didn't know whether he was or not, but that wasn't up for fucking discussion and that we should look elsewhere on that offchance that he was. Hey look, you're a fucking trashcan and because you had clout you got the cop lynched with your fucking stupid questioning of people and your not so sublte jibs at his validity. I don't see why in fucks name you would play the game the way you're playing it at this point if you're town. THAT'S why my attitude changed regarding you. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 28 2014 07:32 Eden1892 wrote: More telling is the fact that five people voted to kill cop claimant Cavalinho. Of those five, Robik has singled me out for it, and in the process did a complete 180. The correlation here, of course, is that I'm the only player of the five that's scumreading him. It's obvious what's really motivating him here. He's mafia, and caught, and doing everything he can to discredit me. LOL. I CAME AFTER YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING FUCKING NONSENSE AND BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ONE WHO PUSHED THE HARDEST TO GET CAVALINHO LYNCHED AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH YOUR OWN FUCKING AGENDA WITH REGARDS TO ME. YOU KEEP ALTERING YOUR REASONING FOR WHY I'M MAFIA AND YOU'RE DOING IT TO PUSH A MISLYNCH ON ME. FUCK THAT SHIT. THAT DOESN'T FUCKING FLY IN MY HOUSE! | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1158 Posts
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
On March 28 2014 08:30 Pixalated wrote: ... @Onceking, wasn't around as lynch was 6am for me, and i had a long day yesterday and was really tired, and had school today as well. Slept through alarm. Wanted to wait for val to respond to your case actually, but decided to just go sleep. Ah. I'm sorry, I didn't notice that you're from Singapore. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
On March 28 2014 09:08 IAmRobik wrote: LOL. I CAME AFTER YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING FUCKING NONSENSE AND BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ONE WHO PUSHED THE HARDEST TO GET CAVALINHO LYNCHED AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH YOUR OWN FUCKING AGENDA WITH REGARDS TO ME. YOU KEEP ALTERING YOUR REASONING FOR WHY I'M MAFIA AND YOU'RE DOING IT TO PUSH A MISLYNCH ON ME. FUCK THAT SHIT. THAT DOESN'T FUCKING FLY IN MY HOUSE! You need to stop typing in caps. Nobody is going to read what you post if it's just a stream of caps lock and obscenities. A couple questions for you two and sqrt: Robik - What agenda is Eden pushing on you? Cite examples. Eden - Cav flipped town. Assuming Robik is scum, who is his partner? sqrt - Why Val or LT? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On March 28 2014 07:23 OnceKing wrote: LT swapped late so I'm leaning more town on him. Not a lot to be gleaned from outliers here as everyone seemed to push their cases a decent amount. I'm tired atm, and have alot of filters I need to review before the night is over (probably won't be able to post substantively until close to the deadline), but how does that make me appear more town, because I'm scratching my head. Finally, everyone needs to step back and take a deep breath. Ya we lost a blue role but whatever. It didn't alter the outcome of LII, and it (hopefully) won't alter it here, finally because we seem to be overvaluing it; it's a Parity Cop, at best it wasn't kick in until Day 3, and that's a maybe. I have to agree with Eden on this but there aren't many viable options here when faced with a Day 1 parity cop claim. If it were a cop claim, I would probably agree with you Robik, but...I feel you're over valuing it. We still need to make to catch scum Day 2, or else we have to survive 2 LYLO scenarios back to back, and I with the way town has progressed thus far, I'm not confident we could do that. And the advice given after LII is that blue roles should NOT be played any differently from a green role, which Cavalinho seemed to be doing and just trying to survive (compare that kind of play to OK playing medic in LII). I feel bad Cavalinho was lynched twice D1 (and I survived again, lol), but there were enough discrepancies in his play and a lack of genuine contributions to warrant it. That's all for now. Probably won't be able to post much till near the deadline but we'll see. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Robik needs to step back and reread with a cool head because his posts don't make a bit of sense -- I can't even respond to his last tirade of invective because he makes a bunch of assertions about me that aren't at all backed by anything that's actually happened. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
- First real post has LT as top scum read and Valenius as scum partner (reads Valenius neutral on his own merits but thinks if LT is scum Valenius is scum), OR Cav and someone else he misread; also says Pixalated is a blue role (why would you point this out?) - Next post he explicitly says "I think LT is more suspicious and I want him to explain"... but he never follows up on this - Votes Cavalinho for giving reads and avoiding a question (Cavalinho wasn't asked a question) - Disagrees with Robik's case on Pixalated, is suspicious of Robik townclearing him - Asserts that Cavalinho not answering a question in a timely fashion is "really scummy" (?) - Tells Robik to stop townreading him (?????), Robik refuses - Asks "who are we lynching today? I say Cav" then does nothing to push the Cav lynch - Useless filler comment about the cop ("The question is, do we believe the cop claim or not? It's doubtful, but possible.") - Says he would shoot Valenius or LT - Another useless filler comment about mafia knowing format I don't like this at all. He says that Tolkien is his top suspect from the moment he starts making serious contributions, and he clearly maintains Tolkien as his top scum read until now, since he just told me he would shoot Tolkien. But he never does anything in the interim to make a case for Tolkien and spends more time harassing Cavalinho about irrelevant nonsense than he does pursuing his scum read on Tolkien. And then once Cavalinho was squarely the lynch candidate for the day (i.e. with a few hours to go), sqrt asks who's being lynched, then does nothing to push the lynch he says he wants. None of his actions are lining up with his words. I also think his Valenius read isn't very good, he keeps saying he reads Valenius "neutral" (said so in his first real post and then says later that Valenius hasn't done anything to change that), then he has Valenius as Tolkien's scum partner and would shoot Valenius or Tolkien tonight if he were vigilante. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
- Valenius was pushing on sqrt throughout yesterday and into tonight here. No reason at all for mafia to bus like that this early. Valenius is clear. - Tolkien and sqrt went back-and-forth a little too much for me to say they're a plausible scumteam. Tolkien is clear. - Roland is clear by... just read his ISO, if I have to explain this after that I dunno what to tell ya. He's been hovering a little around sqrt as scum as well so that helps. - I'm obviously town. That leaves one of Pixalated, Robik, or OnceKing as the partner. - Pixalated made a couple of offhand comments about "not liking" sqrt but never really placed a definite read down on him. Having reread Robik's case on Pixalated, I think Robik focused (in the structure of his post) on the wrong things about Pixalated that make him scummy, and I didn't do due diligence in reading Pixalated's posts and just kinda wrote him off because the case against him didn't stick with me. Robik's "Conclusions" section is salient here, especially with Pixalated's actions afterward: his votes (on Cavalinho and Valenius) don't match up with his talking (where he's mainly pressuring Tolkien) and are blatantly sheeped off of others' cases (me for Cavalinho, OnceKing for Valenius, and his suspicion of Tolkien was basically what I was saying as well). - Robik clearing sqrt based on opening posts and doubling down on that read later still doesn't make any sense, but I can't make any sense of 90% of what Robik's done this game, so I'm not going to worry about it for the moment. I still have some pretty strong misgivings about how he's playing this game, but I can't justify enough of those misgivings as being alignment-indicative to call him scum. - OnceKing generally seems town to me, but I have no clue how he came to the conclusions he did regarding Valenius or sqrt. I'm going the opposite way on both: Valenius has been doing his due diligence, reporting back on things he said he would, following up on questions he asks, putting pressure on his suspects and generally playing genuinely. sqrt hasn't contributed anything helpful all game and has a lot of filler nonsense early and late in the phase. I don't see how he townread sqrt for his unexplained vote on Cavalinho and I don't see how he scumread Valenius for not understanding it. It's not at all implausible that OnceKing is sqrt's partner and chainsawed Valenius to get the pressure off. OnceKing: why did you townread sqrt for his vote on Cavalinho, do you still scumread Valenius and why or why not? Right now sqrt is my main mafia read, Pixalated makes the most sense as his partner. OnceKing and Robik are both slightly fishy to me, but their play so far has made me more willing to cut them some slack and show me they're town instead of outright accusing them. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Pixalated
Singapore38 Posts
On March 28 2014 06:59 Valenius wrote: night everyone This post stood out to me. This is one minute before the flip. Why would val not wait a few minutes to find out the flip, but instead go to sleep? (I am sure that any townie would wait 5 minutes to check the flip, for obvious reasons) Like, would you go to sleep wondering if the lynch was correct when you can easily confirm it if you wait a very short period of time????? My interpretation is this - he went to sleep because he already KNEW what cav was going to flip, and thus did not need to see it. This reeks to me of 'okay I did my job, mislynch secured, now I can sleep.' And yes, he did indeed leave due to the fact that he had no posts after the flip. I expect some reactions like 'damm' or something or maybe some thoughts on the flip if he was around. What do you all think of this? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Pixalated
Singapore38 Posts
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