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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Its the end if the day, transitioning into night. I didnt go to sleep. What the fuck have you been smoking. | ||
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Pixalated
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IAmRobik
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 28 2014 23:08 IAmRobik wrote: I'm not gonna sit here and argue with people. Night posting is fucking dumb. The rule should be taken out of the game as it only benefits mafia and that's all I'm gonna say for the rest of this cycle...I've already said more than I wanted to last night because I was heated as fuck You should at least state your suspicions in case you're nightkilled. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Obviously if you're only going to do it once, later is better, but I don't follow at all what the issue is. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 28 2014 23:31 Eden1892 wrote: You should at least state your suspicions in case you're nightkilled. Because the next day you're stuck with the same "WIFOM" that you were bitching about with regards to the cop. You give mafia a chance to make a more informed decision. I don't like it. Not one bit. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Im fine with posting reads etc in the night phase, as long as they're shortly before deadline. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
But to Robik and Valenius: There’s general discussion that people should avoid talking about their reads to avoid directing Mafia’s night kill. This is wrong. Night is the best time to analyze the lynch and the events of the previous day, because after the kill, everyone is going to be focused on the night kill and the previous day will be drowned out. AKA LII Newbie Mafia writeup we all should have read. The correct play is TO be talking about it. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 29 2014 01:09 Lord Tolkien wrote: I can only post close to the deadline because of legitimate time constraints tonight, But to Robik and Valenius: AKA LII Newbie Mafia writeup we all should have read. The correct play is TO be talking about it. Just because someone wrote that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. My first coach told me I'm terrible and that my reads suck. As for Eden talking about night talk being the same as day talk...that's 100% incorrect. Night talk is different because your reads are now adjusted based off of the day flip. Prime example: Eden makes the case at the end of the day: If cava flips mafia, then rob most likely mafia, otherwise rob prolly town. Then if I'm mafia, I can be like, hmmmm, maybe let's keep eden around since he thinks that I'm town based off of the flip, and then eden doesn't die with his thought that i'm actually mafia, as he expressed at the beginning of night phase and instead he comes out gunning for me unexpectedly. And that, my friends, is why night talking is different from day talking. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Furthermore, the fact that this was apparently explicitly spelled out in the postgame analysis for LII makes me more suspicious of whoever was in that game and is advancing these arguments. There's less excuse for ignorance in that case, which necessarily increases the possibility of malevolence. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 29 2014 01:23 IAmRobik wrote:As for Eden talking about night talk being the same as day talk...that's 100% incorrect. Night talk is different because your reads are now adjusted based off of the day flip. Prime example: Eden makes the case at the end of the day: If cava flips mafia, then rob most likely mafia, otherwise rob prolly town. Then if I'm mafia, I can be like, hmmmm, maybe let's keep eden around since he thinks that I'm town based off of the flip, and then eden doesn't die with his thought that i'm actually mafia, as he expressed at the beginning of night phase and instead he comes out gunning for me unexpectedly. And that, my friends, is why night talking is different from day talking. This is completely backwards; the optimal thing in that situation would be for you to shoot me, so I die after having said you're town. If I withheld my change of heart on you then my death would send the direct opposite message from what I wanted to send. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 29 2014 01:30 Eden1892 wrote: This is completely backwards; the optimal thing in that situation would be for you to shoot me, so I die after having said you're town. If I withheld my change of heart on you then my death would send the direct opposite message from what I wanted to send. I don't know what fucking meta level you play on, but if there is someone that is supporting me and I'm mafia, I have full incentive to keep them alive, ESPECIALLY when there's no cop left. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Again, the only thing that not talking during the night ensures is that we waste a third of our discussion time and that we potentially leave outdated reads that lead the town astray. | ||
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