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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 28 2014 16:41 GMT
#561
Man, we could barely use the 48hrs we are allotted for d1. An extra 24hrs of night time is stupid. I'd rather night end after like 8-10 hours and give us another 48hrs with more information to work off of.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 28 2014 16:42 GMT
#562
Tolkien, since you're on board with me re: night talking, do you care to comment on my most recent posts before this tangent? (the ones dealing with sqrt being mafia, and the implications therein)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 28 2014 16:43 GMT
#563
On March 29 2014 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Man, we could barely use the 48hrs we are allotted for d1. An extra 24hrs of night time is stupid. I'd rather night end after like 8-10 hours and give us another 48hrs with more information to work off of.

Well, that's not an option (though I definitely sympathize). Care to help me use the time we do have, even if you think it's stupid that we have it?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 28 2014 16:45 GMT
#564
On March 29 2014 01:43 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Man, we could barely use the 48hrs we are allotted for d1. An extra 24hrs of night time is stupid. I'd rather night end after like 8-10 hours and give us another 48hrs with more information to work off of.

Well, that's not an option (though I definitely sympathize). Care to help me use the time we do have, even if you think it's stupid that we have it?

I'll say this: I disagree with OK's assessment of LT late vote on Cava looking good because why would mafia want to draw attention to themselves. I disagree because if LT is mafia, and he's one of the other wagons, he has to make sure that he's not lynched based off of a late vote-switch based off of the claim. Thus it makes sense for him to make sure that the lead wagon is as far ahead as possible.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 28 2014 16:48 GMT
#565
Okay, that's a good observation. I agree with you in this case; I typically like that heuristic but you're right, there's an overriding incentive for LT to have moved his vote if he's mafia.

How much could I get you to tell me about sqrt before the day ends? I still don't follow your townread on him.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 28 2014 16:56 GMT
#566
On March 29 2014 01:48 Eden1892 wrote:
Okay, that's a good observation. I agree with you in this case; I typically like that heuristic but you're right, there's an overriding incentive for LT to have moved his vote if he's mafia.

How much could I get you to tell me about sqrt before the day ends? I still don't follow your townread on him.

I'm willing to reevaluate everyone.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
March 28 2014 17:25 GMT
#567
First off Robik you're completely wrong. Everyone should night talk. If only one person night talks and starts voicing suspects during that timeframe then the only guy who's willing to contribute to discussion the entire time gets shot and the thread dies. The way you talk it's almost as if you're saying that once you have one read you can't go back and change it due to new information which is just stupid.
If it's true that as you write, you're "willing to reevaluate everyone" then what's wrong with evaluating people now and then reevaluating after someone dies (or doesn't)?

I don't understand why everyone is being such a complete pussy about talking in the night. "B-b-but I m-might get shot and d-d-d-d-die!" Yeah you might get shot and die anyway, doesn't mean you shouldn't contribute or stop being a good townie out of fear of being NKd.

On March 28 2014 21:06 Eden1892 wrote:
OnceKing: why did you townread sqrt for his vote on Cavalinho, do you still scumread Valenius and why or why not?

First I'm going to answer the implied question: no, I don't have a town read on sqrt. I said that his vote on Cav is very townie.
It was simple, short and to the point. He voted Cav when he did literally nothing but quote your big post and say "I'll answer in a bit, have some work to do and will get back to you." Isn't this very straightforward of sqrt? He wasn't even sheeping anyone, he has the first post after and immediately said what was on his mind.
Yes I still find Valenius scummy for the same reasons I said before. I'm totally willing to believe that he only looks through the filter to make a case. That's also a terrible way to make a case because it takes all the posts out of context.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
March 28 2014 17:40 GMT
#568
... ok nevermind, went through sqrt's filter and Valenius is absolutely right about sqrt LOL
Pixalated even asked him to establish his innocence before he got lynched and all he said was "Hopefully"
On March 28 2014 01:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Here's what I think is really strange. I haven't been posting much, I haven't been acting towny, and yet Robik and Eden have a town read on me. Eden says it's because his scumreads have been after me, but Robik's town read on me is because of early game joke posts. That's strange. I consider people who don't think I'm scum pretty scummy right now.

sqrt - Here in this post you scum read Robik pretty clearly but I'm getting mixed signals as towards your feelings towards Eden. In one sentence you suggest he's scummy but just two sentences prior you justify Eden's town read on you. Tell me, what do you think of Eden?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 28 2014 19:41 GMT
#569
On March 29 2014 02:40 OnceKing wrote:
... ok nevermind, went through sqrt's filter and Valenius is absolutely right about sqrt LOL

Aight, so what's your read on them now then?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 28 2014 21:10 GMT
#570
Everyone should post reads here before you get nightkilled and leave us with nothing.

For me it's...

Town across all scenarios: Roland Jarvis, Eden1892, Lord Tolkien, Cavalinho (rip)
Scum: sqrtofneg1

- Valenius is town if sqrtofneg1 is mafia, null-to-slight-scum read if sqrtofneg1 is town
- OnceKing is probably town, but could still plausibly be sqrt's partner; likelihood appears to be diminishing though
- Robik and Pixalated aren't on the same team; Pixalated makes the most sense as sqrt's partner, Robik is an outside possibility there; more likely to me that Pixalated is mafia rather than Robik
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 28 2014 21:42 GMT
#571
Guys, we have 20 minutes. Don't let the night end like this; you're only going to make it harder for the town to find your suspects when we reread the thread for your posts if you die.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 28 2014 21:59 GMT
#572
I think I'm pretty clear on my suspects; They haven't changed. Pixalated/Sqrt scum team could make sense.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
March 28 2014 21:59 GMT
#573
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
March 28 2014 22:00 GMT
#574
[image loading]



Day 2





It was a silent and somber night as everyone was distraught over the murder they just committed. However, their friend LoneMeow was still missing and they needed to find the cause of his disappearance and whether or not he was still alive. While continuing to search the mansion, they realized someone else was missing: he was shortly thereafter found brutally killed outside on a tree branch.

"They left him here to send a message!"




Eden1892 playing as a College Kid has been killed!




Welcome to Day 2. This day ends 48 hours from this post at Sunday, Mar 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#575
Amiko, gtfo with your popcorn.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 28 2014 22:06 GMT
#576
So.

Sqrt: Why have you been playing like you have? You've been very unhelpful with.. anything.

Pixalated: You've sheeped onto OnceKing's case on me, and when OnceKing looked at his own case he realised it was shit. Did you truly believe in his case? Why?

OnceKing: I'm still confused as to how you thought your case was good in the first place. You've looked over me again and realised i wasn't saying wrong stuff about sqrt.. what was with your original case?
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 28 2014 22:14 GMT
#577
Roland: You haven't been here for a while. How's it going?

You've been a BIG defender of OnceKing so far. Are you trying to assess what he's saying from a scum perspective? It seems from reading your filter that you're very pleased with him.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 28 2014 22:16 GMT
#578
Tolkien: Last game you came back from a horrendous day 1, and provided some really good reads, leading to you getting lynched going into lylo. Do you think you'll be able to help out as much in this day 2? What are your reads?
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 28 2014 22:55 GMT
#579
Is anyone else around? I presume people would have been watching to see who got killed..?
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
March 28 2014 23:30 GMT
#580
On March 29 2014 07:06 Valenius wrote:
So.

Sqrt: Why have you been playing like you have? You've been very unhelpful with.. anything.

Pixalated: You've sheeped onto OnceKing's case on me, and when OnceKing looked at his own case he realised it was shit. Did you truly believe in his case? Why?

OnceKing: I'm still confused as to how you thought your case was good in the first place. You've looked over me again and realised i wasn't saying wrong stuff about sqrt.. what was with your original case?

I'm backing off on my read on you. I have you town and I believe your statement that you just went through sqrt's filter in isolation. Was it silly of you to miss the context? Yes, but I definitely agree with the direction you had on sqrt.

The problem with you originally was not that you were saying wrong stuff, it was that you were saying the same stuff I said earlier but fluffily. It's very easy for scum to look like they're contributing by just rehashing old analysis which is what I thought of you. However here's how I consider it:

1. Given your unprecedented attack on sqrt, you're probably not both scum.
2. Both of you were scummy enough so that I believe one of you to be scum.
3. Sqrt is scummier, so I definitely think it's him.

##VOTE: sqrtofneg1
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
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