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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On March 28 2014 06:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote: The question is, do we believe the cop claim or not? It's doubtful, but possible. Shit, i wish someone had wondered this earlier. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
We can't afford to sit around and lynch whoever Cav points at while not even knowing if he's really the cop -- in fact we don't even know if there IS a cop in this setup. Keeping the claim around also results in ridiculous amounts of WIFOM about the night actions, and the case on Cav is fine. If Cav really is the cop then we learn about the setup, if he isn't then he was lying and we've killed scum. ##UNVOTE VOTE: Cavalinho | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
sqrtofneg1 (2) - OnceKing (0) - IAmRobik (0) - Cavalinho (4) - Eden1892 (0) - Lord Tolkien (2) - Valenius (1) - Pixalated (0) - Not Voting (0) - Currently Cavalinho is set to be lynched! Day ends at Thursday, Mar 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), . | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
Is this a Day1 parity cop claim? Like even if he is what he says and doesnt die during the night it wont be till Day 3 till it activates and wut. Yeah much as I don't like eden. ##vote: cavalinho Wtf Now back to tutoring kids. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
sqrtofneg1 (1) - OnceKing (0) - IAmRobik (0) - Cavalinho (5) - Eden1892 (0) - Lord Tolkien (2) - Valenius (1) - Pixalated (0) - Not Voting (0) - Currently Cavalinho is set to be lynched! Day ends at Thursday, Mar 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), . | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
I know I'm gonna look like absolute fucking shit if he flips mafia, but I don't really give a fuck. This is beyond fucking terrible. I guess there's no fucking point to withhold why you don't lynch a cop claim. 1) if mafia don't kill him and he's real, then he gets checks. 2) if he's mafia and he doesn't die at some point we'll figure out that he's mafia 3) if he's cop and mafia kill him then we don't fucking waste a lynch. That's what I fucking meant by it will resolve itself. Also, there an offchance for a counter claim and we would have even more information. Anyway. this is bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. I almost want to policy lynch Eden for this shit and like seriously. Eden. Go back to whatever shithole mafia site you came from cause you don't deserve to ever play another game with me again. | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
sqrtofneg1 (1) - OnceKing (0) - IAmRobik (0) - Cavalinho (5) - Eden1892 (0) - Lord Tolkien (2) - Valenius (1) - Pixalated (0) - Not Voting (0) - Cavalinho is lynched! Day ends at Thursday, Mar 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), . | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/58Tyj3i.jpg) Night 1 While searching for LoneMeow, the group finds the mansion completely empty. Everybody is on edge and spooked out. Where could he have gone? Who could have taken him? What the hell is going on? While exploring the mansion, a hillbilly waking up from a nap is found in one of the upstairs bedroom. Everybody freaks out at the obvious culprit, and the mob of college students decide to tie him up, leaving him on the upstairs balcony railing while he cries out for help and of his innocence. There was still no sign of LoneMeow, but before anybody realized what was going on in the not-fully renovated mansion, the balcony gives way and Tucker falls to his death. Cavalinho playing as Tucker has been lynched! Welcome to Night 1. This Night ends 24 hours from this post at Friday, Mar 28 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You can speak at night. If you have night actions, get them in to me before the deadline. Night ends in | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
Hope I fucking get n1'd again. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Robik, you're completely wrong about why we should/shouldn't lynch the cop claim. It's not possible for a parity cop claim to work itself out in a game with nine people. For one, the mafia don't really have the same incentive to shoot them immediately like they do for a regular cop. It takes two good scans in a row and a timely death to get a confirmed mafia result, and two scans to get anything to use in the first place. In a nine-person game we're at LYLO by the time we have anything to use, with no way to confirm the cop is legit. For two, there's a 50% chance in any given iteration of this game that there even is a cop, so waiting for a counterclaim that's equally likely to be impossible as not isn't going to work. The mafia are strongly incentivized not to confirm the cop for us, and there's no reason to believe or disbelieve a cop claim in that situation. I therefore went with my scum read and pursued the lynch. That was the rational play and I make no apologies for it. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
So in absence of that I'm returning to my previous behavioral analysis. I think he's mafia. This clears Tolkien and Pixalated to me because there's no reason why mafia!Robik would push mafia!Tolkien or mafia!Pixalated over town!Cavalinho that hard, imo. I'm also pretty confident about OnceKing and Jarvis being town. The final mafia there would be sqrt or Valenius, and my bet would be Valenius simply because I don't think mafia!Robik would just town clear sqrt for nothing *and* that sqrt would call it out and demand he revise his read. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
sqrtofneg1 (1) - Valenius Cavalinho (5) - Eden1892, RolandJarvis, Pixalated, OnceKing, sqrtofneg1, Eden1892, OnceKing, Lord Tolkien Lord Tolkien (2) - Eden1892, OnceKing, Cavalinho, IAmRobik Valenius (1) - OnceKing, Pixalated Vote Count 30 Min Before Lynch sqrtofneg1 (2) - Lord Tolkien, Valenius Cavalinho (3) - RolandJarvis, sqrtofneg1, Eden1892 Lord Tolkien (2) - Cavalinho, IAmRobik Valenius (2) - OnceKing, Pixalated LT swapped late so I'm leaning more town on him. Not a lot to be gleaned from outliers here as everyone seemed to push their cases a decent amount. Pixalated - Why weren't you around for deadline? I also never caught your reason for voting Valenius. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On March 28 2014 07:15 Eden1892 wrote: As for reads I'm sticking with Robik as mafia, the behavioral tells at the end here look really bad. The complete 180 from "you're good town Eden" to "fuck you you don't deserve the privilege of playing with me ever again you useless shit" because I decided I didn't believe him cannot possibly be town. I draw no new information from his protection of the parity cop for the same reason we had to lynch Cavalinho to confirm his claim -- the parity cop claim can't work itself out in a game with nine people, so the mafia has no reason to fear it, and has strong incentive to come out in defense of the claimant. I could equally argue, on this particular point, that Robik is town and made the correct read on Cavalinho, or that Robik is mafia trying to get town credit for making the ostensibly "correct" play in protecting a PR claim. So in absence of that I'm returning to my previous behavioral analysis. I think he's mafia. This clears Tolkien and Pixalated to me because there's no reason why mafia!Robik would push mafia!Tolkien or mafia!Pixalated over town!Cavalinho that hard, imo. I'm also pretty confident about OnceKing and Jarvis being town. The final mafia there would be sqrt or Valenius, and my bet would be Valenius simply because I don't think mafia!Robik would just town clear sqrt for nothing *and* that sqrt would call it out and demand he revise his read. Are you actually mafia? Like you're legitimately twisting things around to fit whatever agenda you're trying to push with regards to me. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 28 2014 07:27 IAmRobik wrote: Are you actually mafia? Like you're legitimately twisting things around to fit whatever agenda you're trying to push with regards to me. Explain to me how going from On March 28 2014 02:53 IAmRobik wrote: I think you are town and I think you're playing well. to On March 28 2014 06:59 IAmRobik wrote: Anyway. this is bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. I almost want to policy lynch Eden for this shit and like seriously. Eden. Go back to whatever shithole mafia site you came from cause you don't deserve to ever play another game with me again. because I started disagreeing with you is at all town behavior. If that's not what you're referencing, then explain how I'm twisting anything around, because that's the only part that's remotely contentious about what I said. I said your actions re: the cop claimant are null and they aren't a factor in my read, so there's no twisting of that set of actions going on, and everything else is derivative from my scumread on you. | ||
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