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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5078 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On January 31 2014 06:46 Cheerio wrote: The missing leader of one of the Euromaidan groups, the Automaidan, has been found alive after he had disappeared 8 days ago. He was being beaten up and tortured (even crucified, there are wounds in the palms of his hands to prove it), part of his ear was cut off. The only thing he could tell about his kidnappers was that they had a Russian accent. update: police responded by opening a criminal case against Bulatov, the kidnapped person, and two other Automaidan leaders. | ||
kalstrams
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21119 Posts
On February 02 2014 09:49 kalstrams wrote: Yanukovych might be in reanimation right now. Opposition did get this information 2 hours ago. Did he have a previous history of bad health? This feels awfully convenient. | ||
Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On February 02 2014 09:49 kalstrams wrote: Yanukovych might be in reanimation right now. Opposition did get this information 2 hours ago. i dont want to be a dick, but that sounds more like an excuse for a "gtfo asap" cloak-and-dagger operation... in the end, janukovych will step down, go on exile in russia, live the rest of his life in luxury while he gets replaced by some other pro-russian puppet that is brimful of corruption. | ||
Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On February 02 2014 11:42 Black Gun wrote: i dont want to be a dick, but that sounds more like an excuse for a "gtfo asap" cloak-and-dagger operation... in the end, janukovych will step down, go on exile in russia, live the rest of his life in luxury while he gets replaced by some other pro-russian puppet that is brimful of corruption. That is highly unlikely. Yanukovich is not under Russia's control, he is being influenced by it, that makes a big difference. Also there is no suitable "pro-russian puppet" at hand around whom the pro-Yanukovich forces could be united. So it's either Yanukovich stays or pro-EU forces take over. And who exactly takes the Presidential seat is not really important, since the Constitutional reform would most likely ensue. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40183 Posts
On February 02 2014 11:42 Black Gun wrote: i dont want to be a dick, but that sounds more like an excuse for a "gtfo asap" cloak-and-dagger operation... in the end, janukovych will step down, go on exile in russia, live the rest of his life in luxury while he gets replaced by some other pro-russian puppet that is brimful of corruption. You greatly overrate influence of Russia on Yanukovich. Also, listening to Russian tv reports of whatever is happening in Ukraine is hilarious, that's how biased they are. | ||
Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On February 01 2014 01:56 Cheerio wrote: update: police responded by opening a criminal case against Bulatov, the kidnapped person, and two other Automaidan leaders. update: the case against Bulatov has been closed, for now. Mainly because of the huge media attention and the diplomatic pressure. He has left Ukraine to receive treatment in EU. | ||
DeepElemBlues
United States5078 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21119 Posts
On February 03 2014 07:48 DeepElemBlues wrote: What is reanimation? I've never heard that used as a term for a medical procedure before, when I read that it made me think he's now a zombie or something Most likely a care of translation issues. I assume its CPR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiopulmonary_resuscitation | ||
kalstrams
33 Posts
On February 03 2014 07:48 DeepElemBlues wrote: What is reanimation? I've never heard that used as a term for a medical procedure before, when I read that it made me think he's now a zombie or something It is place in hospital where doctors look after people in comatose. I think proper way to call it is intensive care bloc. | ||
[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On February 03 2014 08:22 Gorsameth wrote: Most likely a care of translation issues. I assume its CPR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiopulmonary_resuscitation Yep, in English it is resuscitation. Reanimation is a term of Slavic origin. | ||
Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
Among other things a protest marsh was held in Moscow Give us freedom, or we’ll give you Maidan” – Rally in Moscow February 2, 2014, a rally against Kremlin policy was held in Moscow. Up to five thousand people came out for the march with the demand to free political prisoners and the aim to support Ukraine. http://euromaidanpr.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/give-us-freedom-or-well-give-you-maidan-rally-in-moscow/comment-page-1/ http://news.liga.net/news/politics/972646-mnogotysyachnyy_protestnyy_marsh_v_moskve_podderzhal_maydan.htm | ||
DeepElemBlues
United States5078 Posts
EU is just waiting... Actually the EU has been, pretty frequently, giving the diplomatic equivalent of the middle finger to Putin and Yanukovich for a while now. It's pretty interesting to see since the EU rarely throws its weight around that way. | ||
Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On February 07 2014 05:21 Cheerio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQxmiYdxHk Not available in my country, apparently | ||
Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Not available in my country, apparently Text version http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/02/ukraine-protest-leader-describes-torture-2014261129918697.html + Show Spoiler + Ukraine opposition activist Dmytro Bulatov has outlined details of his imprisonment and torture, saying his captors cut off part of his ear before touching it to his face. Bulatov described his beatings as "very professional" while speaking to reporters on Thursday in Lithuania's capital Vilnius, where he headed for medical treatment after being discovered eight days after he went missing on January 22. "They cut my ear, I couldn't feel how much they cut off my ear. They took the piece of my ear and touched my face with it," Bulatov said, adding that he became so desperate as the beatings continued that he falsely confessed to having received $50,000 from the US Ambassador in an attempt to stop the torture. Bulatov said his captors were continually asking who was funding the protests in Ukraine and accused him of being a US spy paid by the CIA. "It felt as if melted metal was poured on my face. The only thing I wanted was for this to stop," Bulatov told reporters. "I said whatever they wanted." Automaidan, the protest group run by Bulatov, was largely made up of drivers who would blockade streets to protect protest camps. On the final day, Bulatov says he was pinned to a wooden door. "On the last day they put me on my knees. They said 'we are going to crucify you,'" he said. Bulatov says that nails were then driven through his hands. "I was asking them to kill me because I was unable to stand this any more. Some time later they came and put a bag on my head and took me somewhere. I was hoping my suffering was finished." Al Jazeera's Nadim Baba, reporting from Vilnius, said there are conflicting accounts about what happened to Bulatov and that the Ukrainian government has cast doubt on his story. Our correspondent said Bulatov hinted that those who abducted him might be from the Russian security services. "He said that was because they were speaking Russian 'with an accent' - his words. He says he wasn't sure but that's where his suspicions lie. Obviously that's going to be very incendiary for his supporters in Ukraine." 'Attempt to overthrow' His detention became a rallying point for Ukrainian protesters in Kiev and was condemned by EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton who called it a "deliberate targeting" of peaceful protesters. The identities of those who took him are not known. Late on Wednesday, opposition leader and former interior minister, Yuriy Lutsenko, said the country's security services are investigating him for an alleged attempt to "overthrow the state". Lutsenko, a close ally of jailed pro-Western former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, is a key figure in the protest movement locked in a two-month confrontation with Ukraine's President Viktor Yanukovych. "Today I received notice from the SBU security service about a case against me over "an attempt to overthrow the constitutional state'," Lutsenko said in remarks published on his official website. He said the investigation was linked to a call he made for the creation of an alternative parliament to be established under the name People's Rada. If convicted the 49-year-old politician, who spent two years in jail before being released last year under Western pressure, could serve up to five years in prison. No official confirmation of the investigation was immediately available. | ||
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