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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 07 2014 00:47 GMT
#681
The White House blamed Russia for the supposed leak of an embarrassing telephone conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt, during which she says "f--k the EU" for their lack of action to respond to the protests in Ukraine.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/state-dept-blames-moscow-leak-article-1.1604676#ixzz2saoL4jhw



Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
February 07 2014 06:51 GMT
#682
just a tip of an iceberg of politics , and US, i see the conversation has already been posted.

http://rt.com/news/nuland-phone-chat-ukraine-927/
youtube.com/N0rthernL1ght
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 07 2014 17:34 GMT
#683
offtop

Bosnia-Hercegovina protests break out in violence


Demonstrators in Bosnia-Hercegovina have set fire to government buildings as violent protests continue across the country for a third day.

Police have used rubber bullets and tear gas against protesters in the capital Sarajevo and the northern town of Tuzla.

Black smoke could be seen gushing from the presidency building in Sarajevo.

The protesters are unhappy about economic and political progress in the Balkan country.

About 40% of Bosnians are unemployed. The unrest is the worst since the end of the Bosnian war.

Sarajevo-based newspaper Dnevni Avaaz says that police are using water to try and disperse protesters who are throwing stones at the presidency building.

At least 50 people have been injured in the capital, the paper reports



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26086857
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 20:19:32
February 07 2014 20:19 GMT
#684
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
February 09 2014 13:31 GMT
#685
On February 03 2014 12:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The guy went into a freakin' coma during all of this?


He seems to be okay and enjoying the olympic games now*
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 10 2014 16:27 GMT
#686
Head of Polish MFA claimed EU together with IMF, EIB, EBRD has prepared huge potential funds for Ukraine, but they would need to start reforming the country to get them.
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 16:47:26
February 10 2014 16:44 GMT
#687
On February 08 2014 05:19 Cheerio wrote:
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092

Even i would win against him... EZPZ! I heard somewhere that Klichko can't even candidate because of his double citizenship or something. Am i right? Funny that Yanukovich would still probably win 1st round.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
February 10 2014 18:43 GMT
#688
On February 08 2014 05:19 Cheerio wrote:
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092

I am relieved to see that Ukraine likes their liberals more than their far-right nationalists.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 11 2014 21:15 GMT
#689
On February 11 2014 03:43 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 05:19 Cheerio wrote:
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092

I am relieved to see that Ukraine likes their liberals more than their far-right nationalists.

So i am, just a note though: it is 2,4k sample size.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
February 12 2014 12:31 GMT
#690
On February 12 2014 06:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 03:43 Shiragaku wrote:
On February 08 2014 05:19 Cheerio wrote:
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092

I am relieved to see that Ukraine likes their liberals more than their far-right nationalists.

So i am, just a note though: it is 2,4k sample size.

Even better, polls are usually done on even smaller samples, around 1000.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 15 2014 02:11 GMT
#691
On February 12 2014 21:31 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 06:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 11 2014 03:43 Shiragaku wrote:
On February 08 2014 05:19 Cheerio wrote:
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092

I am relieved to see that Ukraine likes their liberals more than their far-right nationalists.

So i am, just a note though: it is 2,4k sample size.

Even better, polls are usually done on even smaller samples, around 1000.

Even in this case, these poll results can vary from one sample to another.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 18:42:12
February 15 2014 18:40 GMT
#692
On February 15 2014 11:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 21:31 Roman666 wrote:
On February 12 2014 06:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 11 2014 03:43 Shiragaku wrote:
On February 08 2014 05:19 Cheerio wrote:
Social poll results have been published concerning the second round of presidential elections if they were to be held right now. Yanukovich would have lost to any oppositional candidate.

Klichko 63,9%
Yanukovich 36,1%

Poroshenko 62,3%
Yanukovich 37,7

Yatsenyuk 58,4%
Yanukovich 41,6%

Tyagnybok 54,4%
Yanukovich 45,6%

Tymoshenko 57,4%
Yanukovich 42,6%

http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1503092

I am relieved to see that Ukraine likes their liberals more than their far-right nationalists.

So i am, just a note though: it is 2,4k sample size.

Even better, polls are usually done on even smaller samples, around 1000.

Even in this case, these poll results can vary from one sample to another.

usually they vary significantly because of the poor methodology or even manipulations, not because of the sample size. For example if you have 1000 coin tosses the chances that there will be less than 450 tails is around 0,1%.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 15:21:06
February 18 2014 15:18 GMT
#693
Can someone provide me with an update? I was observing the linked livestream from time to time, everything looked as usual when I went to work. Now I tune back in and police is everywhere and no more protestors on the baricades. Did they find a conclusion/ decided not to risk it (last infromation I had was that the violent protestors got more brutal and goverment threatend to use every allowed way to stop this if they dont calm down) or did the police cast them out?

2 close friends of mine are from the ukraine and took part in the protests (peacefully as far as I know) but I am unable to reach them.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 17:38:48
February 18 2014 15:30 GMT
#694
There was slow movement towards the peaceful solution during the last 2 weeks while captured activists were being released from prison and in return the captured administrative building were being released as well. Today a peaceful march was scheduled to protest near the Parliament which was supposed to vote for the return to the Constitution of 2004-2010 which substantially limited the powers of the President. The vote was never initiated. Eventually violence between the police and protesting people broke out. It's not confirmed yet who initiated the violence. Police used shock and flash granades. There are proofs that nails were being attached to granades using scotch tape. Gunfire was used. There are at least 3 people dead from the gunshots among the protesters. Police claims one officer is dead. Hundreds of people got injured. Eventually protesters retreated to Maidan. Police and SBU (Ukrainian FSB/KGB) put up an ultimatum for the protests on Euromaidan to be stopped until 18.00 or force would be used.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 18 2014 15:31 GMT
#695
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-action-spilno-tv

Gov. stated ultimatum to protestors, if they won't leave, police will force em out, protestors got 30 minutes left.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
February 18 2014 15:33 GMT
#696
So the barricades most likely got abandonded peacefully? Thank you for this information, I wasnt sure if the ultimatum already passed and feared the police just swept them away with full force. Guess my friends are just sitting at home and sleep/rest then :D.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 18 2014 15:36 GMT
#697
Finally this will end today.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
February 18 2014 16:38 GMT
#698
So, what happens now? Will the outcome of the election determine the end result?

Did the Russians win, or did the protesters win?
twitch.tv/duttroach
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#699
On February 19 2014 01:38 dUTtrOACh wrote:
So, what happens now? Will the outcome of the election determine the end result?

Did the Russians win, or did the protesters win?

There have been no elections recently and there would be none in the near future.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#700
So, did the president just say "Ok that's enough, I have the police and the guns, this ends now." Or did some good come of it?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
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