On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
coag
There is no amount of effort shown this game, which leans scummy to me. It seems like in his town games, he makes an effort to show you he is town. He doesn't do that at all here.

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He loves to do this too scummy to be scum shit as scum.
Conclusion: SCUM

On January 05 2014 17:06 kushm4sta wrote:
lol coag I'm so readable. You just haven't seen my scum game recently to know how bad it looks. but yeah coag looks pretty town and I agree with his reads.
yamato should be given time, obiviously.

So Coag goes from scum to town for thinking yamato is scum (which you don't agree with) and because he thinks you are unreadable (which you say is incorrect).

smells like bullshit.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 05 2014 15:27 GMT

#444

nope rayne you missed the sentence completely. go searching again.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 05 2014 15:28 GMT

#445

On January 05 2014 18:25 kushm4sta wrote:
coag is actually super town for realizing this.
coag:

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this is dead on

ok i did it for you

raynpelikoneet

Finland43188 Posts

January 05 2014 15:31 GMT

#446

But that's entirely incorrect. Alakaslam attacked me on D1, that's not lurker hunting.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 05 2014 15:44 GMT

#447

On January 06 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But that's entirely incorrect. Alakaslam attacked me on D1, that's not lurker hunting.

ok thanks for reminding me. that attack on you is scummy in itself. I mean he did the same thing that you are calling yamato scummy for, except he backtracked super quickly to conform to popular opinion. imo that makes alaka's stance a much scummier version of yamato's.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 05 2014 15:46 GMT

#448

furthermore there are reasons why yamato might not want to counter claim his blue role.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

January 05 2014 15:54 GMT

#449

On January 06 2014 00:46 kushm4sta wrote:
furthermore there are reasons why yamato might not want to counter claim his blue role.

well then I'd like him to bring them up. Its not a stupid part of the argument. He's beating around the bush on whether the PRs are legit. I'm here trying to confirm townies, how is that a scum agenda? Yamato is reluctantly admitting they are probably good but still clutches to 'sent seems redish' and 'rayn makes no sense' both of which do not appear to be reasonable statements to me.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43188 Posts

January 05 2014 16:31 GMT

#450

So yamato and kush are scum.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

January 05 2014 16:34 GMT

#451

The sexycake has returned, and list of reads will be given.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 05 2014 16:38 GMT

#452

On January 06 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So yamato and kush are scum.

your problem is you don't listen to people and you just talk

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

January 05 2014 16:55 GMT

#453

Cheesecake's Big List of Awesome

1) kushm4sta - Ok so I liked his point on hopeless as I explain later, but this point about Yamato is 100% wrong.

yamato
town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol)

WHAT early suspicion on Thrawn??? I don't understand how any town person can have a townread on Yamato right now, and using some non-existent suspicion on Thrawn is really bad.

2) alakaslam - Has seemed really town to me all game. Has engaged in conversation, and had thoughts very similar to mine. Upon seeing the gumshoe/rayn fiasco that was occuring, he posts this:

On January 04 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok everything essentially just became a food fight from my perspective.

At first I was thinking Rayne and Gumshoe scum, because seeing the layout concerns Rayne pointed out coupled with gumeshoe's post implying what I am doing is usually seen as scummy in reply to him, it looked like something to be able to lynch LHF with no recompense.

Then, after they talk a bit, I see Rayne going after gumshoe for said post and I'm like "well they certainly aren't scum together" and then Yamato77 wildly says between them he would go after Rayne!

Then gumshoe explains himself to Rayne and it makes sense- my how my reads fly -_-

This makes me ask, what are people's thoughts about hopeless and I rng'ing Kush? He has said nothing, and we are what, a couple hours into the game? I mean seriously, are we wrong/scummy or vote with us? Or what in between?

I was thinking pretty much the exact same things, and this leads me to believe he is town. He also has genuine posts like he doesn't trust his own reads, etc etc... and he even goes after Rayn for claiming parity cop. I don't think scum would yell at the cop like that -- he's just paranoid town.

4) Hopeless1der - I don't really think Hopeless is town anymore. He prodded the RNG lynch, whatever, non alignment indicative. He didn't really PUSH his RNG lynch at all, just sat on the sidelines and voted for Gumshoe for no reason. Upon the daypost he said some generic stuff which is null. His case on Yamato isn't really convicincing, sadly. Overall I haven't seen much from Hopeless to indicate that he's town, but not enough to say he's mafia... HOWEVER. Kush brings up a good point about Hopeless that I'll keep here, I believe it is valid.

On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:

hopeless
His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense.
First he soft defends him.

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To this:

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Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him.

5) Raynpelikoneet - Claimed Parity Cop, 3 blues doesn't seem too bad in a game where it's 3 mafia v 7 town, and parity cop sucks nuts. Has acted fairly pro-town all game, pushed Thrawn into getting vigged by Sentinel.

6) coagulation - Really hasn't done anything, typical Coag. Only thing I really hated was his point on 'slam talking about lurker hunting the entire game which he only did at the beginning.

7) [UoN]Sentinel - Vigilante, shot mafia N1.

8) Yamato77 - Parroting off of others, don't feel like writing a lot, but I agree with Rayn pretty much. I don't like how he says "Good to see my suspicion on Thrawn was correct" because he had no suspicion on thrawn from what I can tell. All i see in his filter is a giant list post, AFTER the day post, saying thrawn = red. No reasoning given. Even if Yamato is town and he was posting his nighttime reads, the thrawn mafia read would have AT LEAST A SENTENCE OF EXPLANATION.

10) Mr. Cheesecake - Veteran, shot N1

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

January 05 2014 16:57 GMT

#454

FMPOV the unknowns are technically Coag / Kush / Yamato / Hopeless / Slam. We have to pick two that are town, and then lynch into the other three to win the game.

Slam I think is townie. So lynch into coag/kush/yamato/hopeless. I really want to lynch kush for that line about Yamato being town cus thrawn suspicion.

Mr. Cheesecake

United States3756 Posts

January 05 2014 17:00 GMT

#455

##Vote: Kush

Slapping that there because confirmed town get fucked mafia.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 05 2014 17:04 GMT

#456

cheesecake when i was talking about yamato's early suspicion on thrawn, that was a complete error on my part. i attributed something rayn said to yamato. that's not why I think he's town.