EPTIf you do not do this you are mafia.
I am a parity cop and tried to check thrawn, got roleblocked.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
If you do not do this you are mafia. I am a parity cop and tried to check thrawn, got roleblocked. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Hopeless1der (2) - Yamato77, Alakaslam Yamato77 (1) - raynpelikoneet With 8 alive it takes 4 to lynch | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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yamato77
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Hopeless1der (2) - Yamato77, Alakaslam Alakaslam (1) - kushm4sta Yamato77 (1) - raynpelikoneet With 8 alive it takes 4 to lynch | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You, yamato, are one of the most obvious town players there is on the planet. You have opinions as town, at least when the game is on D2 and there are two flips which one of them is mafia, and night actions to analyze. The only thing you can come up with is a bullshit theory about scum shooting their own and all the blues in the game fakeclaiming with no counter claims. This is like the most obvioius mafia catch in the game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You made a case on Hopeless based on him proposing a random lynch and his voting behavior. 1) The random lynch is in fact a random lynch so how is that alignment indicative? Why does proposing a random lynch at the start of the game make Hopeless mafia? 2) Where exactly is Hopeless soft-defending gumshoe on D1, i can't see it? 3) If you are stanfding behind your accusation of Hopeless soft-defending gumshoe, how can you say you were not doing the same thing? In my opinion you (using your terms and logic) are "soft-defending" gumshoe just as much as Hopeless as your voting behavior and stance on random lynch matches exactly Hopeless' on D1. 4) Who is the other mafia in your opinion besides Hopeless? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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There are three blue claims. Me, Mr.SexyCake, and Sentinel can't all be mafia, so there are 2 scenarios he is considering: 1) Mr.CC and Sentinel are both fake-claiming and i am telling the truth. This can't possibly be true because that would mean there would be another blue claim and they would have shot their own scumbuddy. Town mislynched on D1 so instead of trying to mislynch on D2 they are giving town a mislynch by shooting their scumbuddy and instantly losing the game if someone claims blue on D2 (if someone claims we lynch one of Sent/CC or the blue claim - if the blue claim turns up blue, scum lose). This is ridiculosu to even consider. 2) I decided to fakeclaim parity cop 1h into the game instead of just not claiming. This makes no sense given that yamato knows how confident i am at my scumplay. Let's entertain a scenario that i did something very stupid (which i would never do) as mafia. The only reason i would do that as mafia is to assume there is no parity cop in the game - because one-one trade is ridiculous in a game where i can just mislynch 2 townies and win the game. There is no counter-claim. I have gained the town credit i was looking for. Good. What's my next move. I decide to buss my teammate thrawn by asking a vigilante to shoot him on N1. I already know there is no parity cop in the game because noone counter-claimed me, so the reasonable assumption is that there is a vigilante in the game. So i made a stupid and a risky claim that could end up in a 1-1 trade, when it worked, i make a stupid move that risks my scumbuddy being shot or lynched on D2 for town-credit i have already gained from my fake claim. In addition to all this stupidness thrawn, my scumbuddy, does not give me the town credit from my fake claim (which was the point of my scumteam in the first place) but instead attacks me and we go 1vs1 with him ensuring we pretty much tunnel each other on D2 - that will most likely end up in one of us getting lynched. So me, raynpelikoneet, did this as mafia, instead of... just lynching townies and playing scum as i normally do, by controlling the thread. Ridiculous. Based purely on yamato even considering something this stupid he is mafia, 100%. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch So here's what happens 1) you elect me mayor 2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works. In this case, 1 = BC 2 = Mattchew 3 = Sharrant 4 = VE and so on all the way up to... 30 = BH 0 = Oatsmaster (since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31). From that same game, here is yamato's reactions to NOT getting made mayor and being subsequently shot N1. On November 18 2013 06:49 yamato77 wrote: Okay, so I've caught up to the lynch since I stopped reading yesterday due to going to my friend's birthday and then subsequently passing out for 12+ hours. FIRST and FOREMOST, I want to say that neither super nor VE have analyzed just about anyone in the game at all up to this point and yet people trusted their reads and analysis skills over mine (LOLOLOLOLOL). I should have been elected pardoner, mafia will 100% shoot me tonight. hiss gg post On November 18 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote: I told you I was dead idiots. Also, yamato's general opinion of me, again from LXIII On November 17 2013 02:32 yamato77 wrote: Why hopeless? I mean, he's always useless. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
I especially have a problem with the fact that he has a documented history of thinking I'm generally useless and has found sufficient reasoning in "my filter" to say I should be lynched with fire. As rayn already noted, Yamato has been trying to cast doubt on the blueclaims On January 05 2014 17:29 yamato77 wrote: This is a bit silly. There's no conclusive evidence that any of their claims is 100% confirmed. There are no counterclaims, that is evidence by itself. Unless yamato is counterclaiming (and he hasnt to my knowledge) then the simple answer is that all the night action claims are legit. Rayn's needs to be scrutinized at this point, but imo his claim also checks out. Ergo 3 confirmed town for the sake of limiting our scope of analysis unless there are counterclaims. Of the three, I trust CC's the most. It's believable that scum wanted to let Rayn live because of how he played D1 (or that Rayn is possibly scum) and thus shot CC, who is a better player than Slam and the second towniest player behind him. Where does yamato fall on this list of townliness? No one else thinks its strange that he doesn't consider himself a viable shot? Especially after the points I pulled from LXIII about him knowing he was about to die before he was shot? If I believe CC's claim, I kinda have to believe Sent's claim as well, considering the setup. There is a possible scenario where they are the last two mafia and intentionally did this, but I haven't enough reason to doubt my read on CC to believe in it yet. Sent seemed mafia-ish D1, but it's not enough to take a leap of faith. This is unnecessary fluff Rayn's claim makes no sense as any alignment, so I'm basically ignoring the fact that he claimed altogether. There is NO WAY to confirm his claim yet and NO REASON to ignore him now because of it. He led the lynch D1, and has now basically just peaced out of any responsibility for how D2 goes. It's definitely possible that he was scumbuddies with thrawn and accused him D1. rayn has covered this beautifully already here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20533299 That leaves Coag, you, and Hopeless as possible mafia, with AT LEAST ONE likely to be, POSSIBLY TWO, if Rayn is to be believed. The correct play would be to thus pick one of you three and lynch him, and I'm pretty sure I already said Hopeless is the scummiest. By the way, the list was MOSTLY based off reads I made during the night phase. I have only just now begun to consider the implications of the claims seriously. coag, kush, hopeless as possible mafia. convenient that slams missing. I guess he's being readable this game and the 3 of us aren't? You don't need to be scummy to be mafia in yamato's game, you just need to be lurk or troll and that is sufficient. . | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
Rayne, hopeless, you are voting for yamato on the basis that his scumplan is to push the lynch of claimed prs. That is the scum motivation you are giving for his opionion about claimed pr. That is not realistic. I don't think scum would ever try to do that. Scum is going to push the vts, like myself, coag, and probably yamato. So with that in mind, Yamato's disagreement with you really has no plausible scum motivation behind it. So where are the scum. Well I just found one. He is jumping right on rayn's "u no make sense!" yamato wagon. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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kushm4sta
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1) kushm4sta (filter) 2) [red]alakaslam/[red] 3) Gumshoe (filter) Mineral Line Drone Lynched D1 4) [red]Hopeless1der[r/ed] (filter) 5) Raynpelikoneet (filter) 6) coagulation (filter) 7) [UoN]Sentinel (filter) 8) Yamato77 (filter) 9) thrawn2112 (filter) AFK in the Mineral Line Shot N1 10) Mr. Cheesecake (filter) | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
1) kushm4sta (filter) 2) alakaslam 3) Gumshoe (filter) Mineral Line Drone Lynched D1 4) Hopeless1der 5) Raynpelikoneet (filter) 6) coagulation (filter) 7) [UoN]Sentinel (filter) 8) Yamato77 (filter) 9) thrawn2112 (filter) AFK in the Mineral Line Shot N1 10) Mr. Cheesecake (filter) and that's why you already press preview before you use tags. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote: Another possibility i just realized is yamato is pr and that's why he mysteriously doubts that all the prs are telling the truth. that actually makes a lot of sense. omg kush pro bluhunter. well he hasnt counterclaimed. I pointed this out already. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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kushm4sta
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