EPTPyrion Flax Attacks : FOREIGNERS - Page 6
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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Tru_m4n
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animagne
United Kingdom47 Posts
(By the way, my extremely limited Russian skills are enough to understand what they are talking, I am fully aware of the issues with ping that connection from eastern Stockholm server, unlike Luxembourg has and I never blame pubs for being bad, because that's just waste of time. Hating to interact with players from those countries, as it is much more likely to find friendlier people with better attitude from somewhere else is an issue though.) | ||
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Web_cole
25 Posts
There probably is a lot of unwarranted xenophobia directed at Russians, but its not xenophobic to want to be able to communicate with your teammates. | ||
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BadBinky
Finland649 Posts
Nice analogy though  | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I cannot teach or mitigate a horrible player who cannot understand a word coming out of my mouth. It becomes frustrating and I don't enjoy it. There is nothing xenophobic about that. It's a desire to win and learn and becoming naturally frustrated at anyone who impedes that. It just so happens that when you can't communicate with your team properly they become a greater impediment and makes the game worse. Also, I have only ever run into Mexican/Brazilian players who somehow just leave their audio on the WHOLE game while blasting shitty (Note: ANY) music. | ||
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Prophanity
United States165 Posts
On October 20 2013 12:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: It's a team orientated game. I don't queue on servers that don't speak my own language because it hampers our ability to communicate and work as a team. It's not xenphobic, it's reality. It's exceedingly difficult to coordinate a team who speaks different languages without any type of common ground. A trillion times this. I really do appreciate the scroll wheel and it does help a bit but you cannot, with such few options on the wheel, convey all the necessary information at times. I have nothing against people from other countries nor those that speak other languages and I understand that there isn't a server in each country for those that speak a specific language. That is a fact that does not, however, make playing a team game easier when half of your team has no idea what you're trying to tell them. In the end, the complaint is not so much about people on a US server not speaking English as it is a complaint about not being able to clearly converse many simple things to them as the scroll wheel and pings are not catch-alls. I'm afraid until Google Translate (lol) is installed in Dota, this will be a continued issue. | ||
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
Pretty simple as this: 1) People who project their experiences with a culture/race/demographic onto all others of the same, are asshats. 2) People who queue with a language selected that they can't speak/comprehend, are asshats. 3) People who queue on a server that they knowingly have a terrible ping on, and spend the whole game typing "-ping", then blame their mistakes on lag, are asshats. | ||
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ohBareN
United States11 Posts
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OOHCHILD
United States570 Posts
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Vansetsu
United States1452 Posts
On October 19 2013 23:20 opisska wrote: This blog is slightly puzzling - who is this guy who has 3 posts and 1 blog and his blog is already featured? Yea, only thing about the blog other than the stupid arguments that followed that kinda bothered me. Someone literally coded a little banner for people to follow him. With 3 posts to contribute on TL, this kinda just feels like self advertizing -_- | ||
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Desertfaux
Netherlands276 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On October 20 2013 17:15 Vansetsu wrote: Yea, only thing about the blog other than the stupid arguments that followed that kinda bothered me. Someone literally coded a little banner for people to follow him. With 3 posts to contribute on TL, this kinda just feels like self advertizing -_- I'm not aware of any post count requirement for a blog to be featured. Being somewhat of a scene insider / personality obviously helps, but that's always been the case. | ||
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Sogetsu
514 Posts
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Cosm01
Netherlands2 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Ubs
Netherlands10 Posts
On October 20 2013 21:56 Cosm01 wrote: Just logged in to say this was among the worst and idiotic articles I've ever read. It may be a TL feature but that doesn't stop it from being horrendous. The point is that any person that doesn't have the inherent intelligence to be able to pick up English after years and years of being online or dealing with it in some other way, they probably ARE of lesser intelligence. And before you bash me for ''then why don't you speak any other languages'', I'm able to speak 4 at a decent level. One of the most ridiculous and try-hard articles I've ever read in my life Thank you. It saddens me when people love to circlejerk around an article without actually reading it. Pyrion, anyone with a decent level of critical thinking can clearly see how hard you try to make a point about an issue while clearly going far from the real problem. Most of those people who are not being cooperative or/and communicative are actually doing it on purpose just because they couldn't give a damn about winning and can take their kick out of the game by watching you painfully trying to make some teamwork happen. That’s kind of uncool, you know what I mean man? Because the internet is meant to be about, like, breaking down barriers and stuff. I got to admit, I laughed at this part quite hard. This may be YOUR reasons to join other servers but everyone here knows why most of people do it. The main reason is the queue time. They want a game asap so they tick all the options and don't give any damn about "breaking down barriers and stuff". Seriously Pyrion, you are either naive or really oblivious about this game's playerbase. Ask yourself this: If there was a fast queue time for all servers of all countries, do you really think russians would tick an EU West server just to ''break down barriers and stuff''? The answer is no. Unless he wants to troll. But that, is another story. | ||
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Batcha
Bosnia-Herzegovina72 Posts
Idea was to reply with questioning statistics but considering I've just had a rather unpleasant game involving players that seemed to originate from Russia, perhaps it would be wiser to delay it until I'd go about it in a more objective way. :D I do agree with most of the points OP presents though. Thing is, the complaints don't necessarily have to be a bad thing when you look at the big picture. Mentioning Russians and Brazilians has become a part of Dota culture, and I'm certain a significant part of players from those countries acts in a way only to reinforce just that. People seem to take the complaints too seriously anyway. I find the entire thing quite humorous which is why I think in general, a certain amount of stuff with a "negative" vibe to it can in the long run create a more enjoyable experience, such as complaining about Russians or other stereotypes, stuff being broken/op, unfair, demoralizing and so on.. simply because some kind of story forms around it. Maybe the new players don't immediately appreciate it, but for me it gives the game some character and even though I'm complaining about a negative experience at the time, it makes me more opinionated towards the game in the end. And as long as the game does not play out that way each time, and allows me to choose how i want it to play out (by the way i queue and with whom) I see no problem. People need to loosen up.. + Show Spoiler + cyka | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On October 20 2013 06:51 Headnoob wrote: How many russians do you actually play with though. I only play EU West and in most games I have at least 2 russians | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
Yes, the internet is supposed to unite and break down boundaries yadda, yadda. But guess what, like it or not- the language of the internet (and most other "international" entities) is English. You might as well argue that everyone on TL should be allowed to write in their own language. And there's a little country right next to those awesome Switzerlands and Luxembourgs, it has cute little inhabitants who have little problem speaking English on the web even though their language is spoken by ~100 million people. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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