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On September 22 2013 07:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I have to parrot rayn here though and say that the longer it goes between his "I'm catching up" post and something with some substance, the worse he looks though. Not what I was getting at but I'm fine with the suspicion. Yes I'm aware it wasn't what you were getting at. I asked you what you were getting at and you said later.
I'm just telling you where I stand because you mentioned him.
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On September 22 2013 07:21 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Pandains case is a bunch of misunderstandings tbh.
I never defended him, nor did I not do what i said prior. I can debunk the post in about 5 minutes at my comp, not really concered about it. On phone atm if anyone has simple questions. Yes I would like you to explain. Also why you feel like voting Coag versus what you said about going for inactives.
I'll try to do this on my phone as best I can. Just cannot quote at all.
I'll dissect the case into three points, maybe there are more i can remember.1) I assumed DP was town when talking of Geript. 2) I defended Pandain 3) I say i wanted to lynch inactive but dont follow through.
Essentially, #1 is true. I assumed DP as town if im talking of geript in the scum light. If geript is scum, he is ballsy to go after DP regardless of DPs alignment. Bus lor not, but DP would likely be town in this case. In context DPs alignment is irrelevant because its geript who was being scummy. I assume he would be town if geript scum.
#2 and #3 are not true. I did not defend Pandain. I even heralded people like Mocsta pressuring him because that was scummy behavior. I was calling out LM for calling out mocsta for calling out pandain, really. I keep asking why coag thinks pandain is scum because i want coag to speak and give reasoning instead od hiding in the shadows. He mentions pandain as mafia but never says why its scummy behavior.
Similarly, I did follow through on my inactive lynch. Coag is low volume poster and was such in my scumteam. This is similar behavior, he hasnt done anything which equals inactive. LM is also pseudo inactive and i could lynch him. By inactive i dont mean those who have 0 posts, i mean those who are clearly there but have 1-4 posts of uselessness.
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On September 22 2013 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I have to parrot rayn here though and say that the longer it goes between his "I'm catching up" post and something with some substance, the worse he looks though. Not what I was getting at but I'm fine with the suspicion. Yes I'm aware it wasn't what you were getting at. I asked you what you were getting at and you said later. I'm just telling you where I stand because you mentioned him. Where's Kush? VE is emphasizing words and I want to know if this further confirms or conflates his previously stated townish read.
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On September 22 2013 07:51 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 22 2013 07:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I have to parrot rayn here though and say that the longer it goes between his "I'm catching up" post and something with some substance, the worse he looks though. Not what I was getting at but I'm fine with the suspicion. Yes I'm aware it wasn't what you were getting at. I asked you what you were getting at and you said later. I'm just telling you where I stand because you mentioned him. Where's Kush? VE is emphasizing words and I want to know if this further confirms or conflates his previously stated townish read. They're italicized rather than capitalized OO. You're safe.
Or are you?
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On September 22 2013 07:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: [ The only thing i found odd in FT's post was that he was trying to appear like he was contributing. Then said he has not yet caught up in thread and never followed it up in any way. It's now been 1,5 hours since his post. He should have caught up already. Yes. But increasingly these days I see this as a bloody annoying-tell rather than a mafia-tell. Stutters is a well known proponent of this as town in fact Maybe it's a promise to contribute and somehow can't because he's mafia? Obviously broken promises and shit are bad, but also as mafia you tend to try to follow through on simple things like reading and making some bullshit posts. Yeah i am not saying it absolutely makes him mafia. His post just reads to me as "hi, i am now at page 30, and here's what i have gathered so far". Then what, he stops reading and doesn't finish the thread?
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On September 22 2013 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:51 ObviousOne wrote:On September 22 2013 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 22 2013 07:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I have to parrot rayn here though and say that the longer it goes between his "I'm catching up" post and something with some substance, the worse he looks though. Not what I was getting at but I'm fine with the suspicion. Yes I'm aware it wasn't what you were getting at. I asked you what you were getting at and you said later. I'm just telling you where I stand because you mentioned him. Where's Kush? VE is emphasizing words and I want to know if this further confirms or conflates his previously stated townish read. They're italicized rather than capitalized OO. You're safe. Or are you? It's debatable. I have a fever. Things are warped slightly. Please make Pandain piss in someone else's cheerios. Give me your thoughts on CC?
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I know rayn. But my reply to you is contained in my quote right there. ^_^
It's bad, but there's nothing else to say about it right now. It's not even that alignment indicative. What will be alignment indicative is what he finally posts.
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On September 22 2013 07:54 marvellosity wrote: I know rayn. But my reply to you is contained in my quote right there. ^_^
It's bad, but there's nothing else to say about it right now. It's not even that alignment indicative. What will be alignment indicative is what he finally posts. Yeah we are getting nowhere in talking about FT now. What are your thoughts on Koshi?
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I've no idea what to think about Koshi. His first posts yesterday seemed a little tame, and his pursuit of VA is... weird? Would he do that as mafia? It seems counterproductive, and Koshi isn't stupid I don't think.
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koshis like a less extreme rayn imo, the way I read him is how sincere he sounds, but I'm still on the fence about him
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I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless?
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On September 22 2013 07:53 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 22 2013 07:51 ObviousOne wrote:On September 22 2013 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 22 2013 07:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I have to parrot rayn here though and say that the longer it goes between his "I'm catching up" post and something with some substance, the worse he looks though. Not what I was getting at but I'm fine with the suspicion. Yes I'm aware it wasn't what you were getting at. I asked you what you were getting at and you said later. I'm just telling you where I stand because you mentioned him. Where's Kush? VE is emphasizing words and I want to know if this further confirms or conflates his previously stated townish read. They're italicized rather than capitalized OO. You're safe. Or are you? It's debatable. I have a fever. Things are warped slightly. Please make Pandain piss in someone else's cheerios. Give me your thoughts on CC? I have a hard time reading CC because he so damn sexy. He's at least contributing, and I think that's enough to not kill him today...much like Mocsta before him. Leaning town until he does something I really don't like.
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On September 22 2013 07:59 marvellosity wrote: I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless? He invites it by being unrepentant about it regardless of alignment. Haters gon' hate.
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On September 22 2013 07:58 Umasi wrote: koshis like a less extreme rayn imo, the way I read him is how sincere he sounds, but I'm still on the fence about him Does that worry you? Signal to noise ratio too low? Also what are his other thoughts other than VA? I don't recall any off the top of my head.
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On September 22 2013 07:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:59 marvellosity wrote: I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless? He invites it by being unrepentant about it regardless of alignment. Haters gon' hate.
mainly thinking about Sentinel brought this on. As someone else noted, Sentinel's original catch-up post was a bit blergh.
Then he comes up with this reasonably structured, also kinda catch-up post, ending in a vote on coag. The coag vote seems so weak as shit to me.
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I think he took a pretty null stance on both DP and Geript, and is suspicious of mocsta? idk why though, his filters hard to understand, kinda need to read him as he responds to the thread :|
oh tyty for getting filters up maepak
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he hasn't been as opinionated as I'd expect him to be as town
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On September 22 2013 07:59 marvellosity wrote: I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless? That's right.
This is actually my problem with Koshi at the moment. Koshi knows what will happen if he pushes Vayne lynch now. Vayne probably OMGUSes him and that'll turn the thread into a shitfest and for people not knowing Vayne's play (regardless of his alignment) Koshi will look better than him with justified reasoning. That however does not tell anything about either of those people's alignment.
Vayne needs to be let doing his own stuff. Regardless of if he is mafia or not attacking him at this point, when he has posted twice, does not help figuring out his alignment. He is capable of good analyses, but if someone attacks him for stupid reasons he'll attack back. If he and his useless posts are left unnoticed he'll have to contribute something useful, otherwise we lynch him.
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That's an awful scummy post from rayne. You defending two people you know are town?
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On September 22 2013 02:38 Stutters695 wrote:By asking for modkills, calling people out for spamming instead of playing? I'd say it's a fitting description
Asking for modkills was a joke mostly. Obviously it wasn't going to happen. Telling them to stop spamming was definitely a joke. Notice how I used 2 posts unnecessarily and thus spammed myself
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