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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Are we allowed to talk at night? forgot mod font | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:00 killerdog wrote: The day ends an hour and a half from when you made that post, (one hour from when I make this one.) Make sure you don't get modkilled for talking at night :p make sure you don't get modkilled for talking at night? | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:06 Umasi wrote: make sure you don't get modkilled for talking at night? sorry, I'd misunderstood the rules :p | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:05 Bereft wrote: LV's arguments are laughably bad. also what's with him going balls to the wall to paint the 2 people with suspicions of him (blurry and myself) as mafia? would be disappointed if he genuinely finds me sketchy - am inclined to think this is an ink defense. ##vote lord velocity Whats your response to my points in favour of not voting for him? On September 06 2013 05:54 killerdog wrote: + Show Spoiler + I've voiced my opinion that I don't think he's an intelligent d1 lynch, although it was a while ago so I'll give my reasons again. I'm reading him as a new player who is very eager, he cracked under pressure very easily both times, but bounced right back almost immediately. The lack of caution in his play (especially right after being under the gun) requires self confidence that I don't think mafia have.+ Show Spoiler + (note, after the first time I made this point, I looked at his posting habits before and after to see if he suddenly went more aggressive, but didn't see any noticeable change.) My overall read is he's one of three things -New player who's really eager but isn't very experienced -Really good mafia player who's faking newbie town really well -Really bad mafia who's playing wayyyy more agressive then he should given his current situation. (The last two are a bit wifom) But currently I'm leaning towards him being inexperienced town. The reason I think he'd be a poor d1 lynch is, firstly, He's active, bad at pressure and not afraid to commit to things. This means that if he is mafia, he shouldn't be very hard to break in a day or two, and his aggressive posting is leaving a huge crumb trail behind him. Secondly, he doesn't really have any friends right now, he hasn't really defended anyone and has at various points called pretty much everyone scummy. So I feel that regardless of what he flips, we don't really learn anything. Compare that to the information we might get from lynching someone else. Say we lynch Infii, regardless of whether he flips scum or town, we have the potential to look at his past posts and maybe learn something from them. Not everyone has aggroed on him and he hasn't aggroed on very many people and we could maybe read something from that. And third and most importantly, I'm just not getting a scum read off him. It might be because he hasn't aggroed on me at all, but his play just seems to open and carefree for me to tick him off as overly scummy. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, as my vote on myrzeth suggests, he's my current preferred target, just because I don't see him being anything other then a liability if left alive, but I'm open to suggestions. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:09 Holyflare wrote: inb4 clusterfuck voting 1 minute before deadline again............ As long as people give a reason for their vote when they cast it, clusterfucks can be great information :p | ||
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:00 Chairman Ray wrote: I have concluded that HolyFlare and Umasi are both town, and I am about 95% sure of it. No, just no. No. fucking no. Either God, hack or mafia. Yes they act like town, that doesn't mean that they are truly for 95% town, yes the % are in the favor of town, that doesn't mean you can be that sure that 1 person is town, especially non as experienced and witty as those. Sorry I can't get over this. If they are going to lead town you have to be extra cirtical of them, don't just bless everything they say with yeah they'll 95% be town. Man. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:11 Bereft wrote: also as a side note I know I said I wanted myrzeth to respond in the last 2 hours and he didn't, but given that it was a small window and he may not have seen it, I'd like to encourage the rest of the town to keep him alive and give him a chance to prove himself, ie let's give him an ultimatum before the next lynch before we cut him. So we can lynch him and kill off 2 townies instead? Nice try scum. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
HolyFlare (1): Lord Velocity (3): Chairman Ray, Heavenz (0):: bereft (0):: myRZeth (2): Chairman Ray (2): HolyFlare, LoneMeow Not Voting: Umasi, Infii, heavenz, Pharcyd3 Currently Lord Velocity is set to be lynched! REMINDER: Voting is mandatory! The person with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched! Deadline is at 22:00 GMT (+00:00)! You have ~46 minutes left! | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
Firstly, his slipup. This doesn't give any tells on his own, but the way he reacted to it, and other people reacted to it does. I see LV's slip as an easy mafia bandwagon target. One of my intentions of voting him was to potentially start a mafia bandwagon. If 3 other people jumped on him as well, there's a good chance we got our mafia right there. However only killerdog jumped on him. Since no other mafia backed him up, I am inclined to believe killerdog may be safe. And since there was absolutely no mafia bandwagon on Lord Velocity at all, there's a greater chance that he is the mafia. My second piece of evidence is on how Lord Velocity reacted to it. I'm so so so so so Sorry people. I said that asking for reads wouldn't be scummy really unless you were trying to bandwagon on their reads, which could subsequently be scummy and realized how dumb I sounded and got embarassed, and the keyboard thing was because I dropped my laptop and had to fix my board itself because it has thin keys. And I was unaware of the no editing rule, I must have missed it. But voting for me(Killer and Chairman) is not the smartest thing. and seeing as you two hopped on it right away seeing an easy lynch but nobody else voted. And I don't even know what QT means, and I fled for an hour or so because I wanted to eat pizza with my sister who is moving out for college. I'm terribly sorry if it was suspicious and I myself have become suspicious of Killer and Chairman in the process. This is killerdog's accusation of LV: Right now I'm seeing a Mafia who posted something he shouldn't have, panicked, and has fled the thread until he can contact his coach/talk to mafia buddies in qt to work out how to do damage control, and until someone comes up with a convincing alternative my vote is staying. When killer accused LV of hiding in qt, he had qt in lowercase. How did LV know to capitalize it? Also, the meaning of qt was clear as crystal just from the context of killerdog's accusation. Not only that, in this entire thread, qt has been mentioned many times. LV has been active. If he didn't know what qt is, why didn't he ask earlier? It was also defined earlier as well. But the strongest case comes from putting yourself in LV's shoes. If you are town, would you phrase it like that? If you are mafia, would you phrase it like that? LV's testimony of not knowing what QT is sounds exactly like someone who's deliberately feigning ignorance. From these piece of evidence, I would suggest that LV is in fact mafia. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:06 killerdog wrote: ebwop Are we allowed to talk at night? forgot mod font yes | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
I was suggesting that killerdog did not capitalize it and LV did. This means that LV either knew what QT was or saw it earlier. In either case, it points to LV feigning ignorance. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Would you rather lynch myrzeth, Chairman Ray or Lord Velocity? | ||
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Blurry
Switzerland125 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
ray scumslips don't exist, and you've done a lot of hunting for scumslips this game, with your qt talk at the beginning, then your accusing LV with quick topic crap.. I'm not buying it. He might have known it was an abbreviation, or he did what you did at the beginning On September 04 2013 07:53 Chairman Ray wrote: Has everyone got their QT yet? You should have received one by now. and capitalized that. Why are you pressuring him hard on something as insignificant as THAT? sure, you 'could' be correct, and he's actually scum, and you caught a scum slip but..... not buying it. Had problems with this post a while ago, On September 05 2013 04:03 Chairman Ray wrote: I am currently working on my scum reads right now, and will post them in a sec. As for Umasi/HolyFlare, one of the best scum tactics is to have two scum ragging on each other the first day. It monopolizes the discussion preventing productive town discourse, paints them both as very pro town, and in the case that one of them turns mafia, there's a strong argument for the other one being town. Because of this, I am not willing to read them both as town. Right now, there's a possibility of both being scum, both being town, or one being mafia, so lynching one will not give us ANY headway, I say keep them both alive on day 1. Based on who gets lynched and who gets killed by mafia, we may be able to eliminate one of the possibilities. because it was like 'no guys they still could be scummy', which is correct, but not because of some kind of scum tactics, you just state every possible scenario which is totally pointless. velocity has both good and bad things in his filter, but I think you're scummier than him. Heavenz and infii aren't really off, they're still -.-.-.-.--egh, but you're pretty out there. | ||
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