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Blurry
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland125 Posts
September 05 2013 21:46 GMT
#461
On September 06 2013 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 06:40 Blurry wrote:
On September 06 2013 06:00 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not all of my posts thus far have been genuine to my feelings, but rather baits to get certain reactions. After thorough analysis, I have concluded that HolyFlare and Umasi are both town, and I am about 95% sure of it. I will post a very long analysis during the nighttime since there's only 1 hour left.


This screams scum "Disregard my suspicious actions because I actually meant to be suspicious."


screams scum > scum is targeting lord velocity > you are targeting lord velocity > you are scum > lynch you = profit


This is a huge logical fallacy. Think about what you just said.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#462
On September 06 2013 06:45 killerdog wrote:
Also a quick note. If, in the last 15 minutes to try and save themselves, someone comes out as a blue role. What do we do? Obviously noone should counterclaim (even if it wasn't a semi open setup that would be dumb as hell) but do we still lynch them, or do we switch lynches to myrzeth and see if mafia kills them that night?

I really don't want to have everything go to shit in the last 5 minutes becomes someone randomly goes "ok i'm Q"


I actually don't know.
I'm gonna ignore it though, desperation moves are ridiculous
also

for those who aren't aware, don't fucking blue hunt in thread. just a side note.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Lord Velocity
Profile Joined August 2013
84 Posts
September 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#463
Well kill me then if you feel I'm the scummiest, but notice how dumb you will feel after I flip in the morning
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#464
##vote Blurry

he's a worse version of myRZeth.

Everything you do is so smothe, totally neutral. You're not giving in anywhere, dispite, I belive you could. You acknowldge your neutrality and think you can just pass by it. A little suspecious on VL there, but not commiting (lol just by what he's writing he's suspicious as f´´k). I don't trust you, and I value Rays's work more. I have made a longer case where I went through your posts before.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 05 2013 21:48 GMT
#465
On September 06 2013 06:47 Lord Velocity wrote:
Well kill me then if you feel I'm the scummiest, but notice how dumb you will feel after I flip in the morning


oh my god
go fuck yourself
right now
hoooooooly shit

I'm sticking with ray, but holy god, I almost want to switch.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 05 2013 21:49 GMT
#466
that is
SO retarded
to say



heavenz, I do not see the comparison between blurry and myrzeth
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2013 21:49 GMT
#467
Totally situational but blue roles shouldn't be playing like he has been either so I wouldn't believe it if he said so.
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 05 2013 21:49 GMT
#468
On September 06 2013 06:47 Lord Velocity wrote:
Well kill me then if you feel I'm the scummiest, but notice how dumb you will feel after I flip in the morning


just out of curiousity, how old are you?
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#469
On September 06 2013 06:47 heavenz wrote:
##vote Blurry

he's a worse version of myRZeth.

Everything you do is so smothe, totally neutral. You're not giving in anywhere, dispite, I belive you could. You acknowldge your neutrality and think you can just pass by it. A little suspecious on VL there, but not commiting (lol just by what he's writing he's suspicious as f´´k). I don't trust you, and I value Rays's work more. I have made a longer case where I went through your posts before.


The thing is, compare the cost of not lynching either of them.

We don't lynch blurry, people with suspicions can grill him tomorrow and maybe get leads out of him.
We don't lynch myrzeth, if he just stays afk like he has today, then well shit, we have to waste a lynch on him (causing us to not be able to properly pressure actual scum reads) or leave him alive (again) til day 3, where it's lynch a mafia or lose. And i really really don't want to be in a position where it's lynch or lose and myr is still in the game, not having said anything.
Blurry
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland125 Posts
September 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#470
On September 06 2013 06:47 heavenz wrote:
##vote Blurry

he's a worse version of myRZeth.

Everything you do is so smothe, totally neutral. You're not giving in anywhere, dispite, I belive you could. You acknowldge your neutrality and think you can just pass by it. A little suspecious on VL there, but not commiting (lol just by what he's writing he's suspicious as f´´k). I don't trust you, and I value Rays's work more. I have made a longer case where I went through your posts before.


Voting for him and keeping your vote there isn't committing? I still think he is scum, I did since the start. I was the first player to question him, and I haven't changed my views at all this entire game so far, even when people started piling on myrzeth or chairman ray, which would have been far easier targets to go after.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#471
Guys, I'm town, and this is a mislynch. Vanilla town if that matters. Time's almost up, and there's a train on me, but nothing to back me up. If I was mafia, then obviously team mafia would do something to save me right? Such as lynch train on myRZeth. I'm sticking my vote on LV, and if the two other people on LV as well are mafia, we could easily save me by all switching to myRZeth, right? But we're not doing it, because I'm not mafia. I'm also confident that lynching myRZeth is not a good idea either.

This is a mistake. There are three mafia among the people who are voting me, and the are hiding behind Umasi and HolyFlare, who both have a lot of power. I know I can't convince the three mafia to get off me, but I'll try to convince the rest of you. I'm town, everything I've done is to help town, and I've spend a lot of time and effort looking deep into posts, filters, interactions, even down to capitalizations. This is not something mafia will do. I am town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#472
On September 06 2013 06:46 Blurry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
On September 06 2013 06:40 Blurry wrote:
On September 06 2013 06:00 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not all of my posts thus far have been genuine to my feelings, but rather baits to get certain reactions. After thorough analysis, I have concluded that HolyFlare and Umasi are both town, and I am about 95% sure of it. I will post a very long analysis during the nighttime since there's only 1 hour left.


This screams scum "Disregard my suspicious actions because I actually meant to be suspicious."


screams scum > scum is targeting lord velocity > you are targeting lord velocity > you are scum > lynch you = profit


This is a huge logical fallacy. Think about what you just said.


It was sarcasm and no there is no fallacy. You think ray is scum, scum would not have their vote on scum that would possibly be lynched therefore velocity would not be scum. You vote is on a therefore town confirmed target and you are keeping it there because of that.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 05 2013 21:53 GMT
#473
it's unfortunate, ray, that your defense right there was you screaming 'I'm town'
:|
why are killerdog, zeth, and lonemeow scum?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 05 2013 21:53 GMT
#474
[green] can we get a count of the votes? [/green/]
Lord Velocity
Profile Joined August 2013
84 Posts
September 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#475
Well if you're so sure I'm scum what do you have to worry about? It's a dumb lynch that can lead to nothing and when that does, you only have about 2 or 3 left
Blurry
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland125 Posts
September 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#476
On September 06 2013 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 06:46 Blurry wrote:
On September 06 2013 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
On September 06 2013 06:40 Blurry wrote:
On September 06 2013 06:00 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not all of my posts thus far have been genuine to my feelings, but rather baits to get certain reactions. After thorough analysis, I have concluded that HolyFlare and Umasi are both town, and I am about 95% sure of it. I will post a very long analysis during the nighttime since there's only 1 hour left.


This screams scum "Disregard my suspicious actions because I actually meant to be suspicious."


screams scum > scum is targeting lord velocity > you are targeting lord velocity > you are scum > lynch you = profit


This is a huge logical fallacy. Think about what you just said.


It was sarcasm and no there is no fallacy. You think ray is scum, scum would not have their vote on scum that would possibly be lynched therefore velocity would not be scum. You vote is on a therefore town confirmed target and you are keeping it there because of that.


I can't say anyone is scum with certainty, nobody can. Its an educated guessing game, there is literally no way to confirm it until you lynch or kill them. My biggest scumread is on lord velocity, thats why my vote is there. If Chairman Ray flips green are the people who voted for him automatically scum?
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#477
I'm bad at teamliquid
can we get an official count of the votes?
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#478
If you're town, ray, at this point, where you are probably going to be lynched, this is my advice

SPAM READS.
this is your last chance.
If you're mafia, SPAM READS TO LOOK TOWNIE
if you're town, we can consider your reads
if you're mafia, we'll just ignore them.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#479
On September 06 2013 06:53 Umasi wrote:
it's unfortunate, ray, that your defense right there was you screaming 'I'm town'
:|
why are killerdog, zeth, and lonemeow scum?


I'm not just screaming that I'm town. What's wrong with my argument? If I'm mafia, why aren't the other mafia helping me?
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 05 2013 21:55 GMT
#480
On September 06 2013 06:49 Umasi wrote:
that is
SO retarded
to say



heavenz, I do not see the comparison between blurry and myrzeth


It's not hard to see, both try to accomplish the same thing: staying undercover. mrzeth used the way that works in sc2 mafia and Blurry tries to use a way that feints townmanship in this game.

Just look at his posts, am I the only one seeing this? Ray makes spectacular moves and get's voted on (mind after he got voted on he makes such!) Blurry just "yeah I am neutral, what ya gonna do bout it". It's my first game, but this seems to me very suspecious, he made not a single case against someone he just wants to slip by, my feeling this indicates mafia closeness.

I hate follow a leader lol. Holyf. yeah, explain this ray thing to me.
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