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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote: Maybe scum didn't believe rayn was a cop anymore. I am pretty sure that I didn't believe rayn was a cop and that XRZ was the real cop. I thought that Rayn was more likely to be scum than cop. But I did not think that Rayn was VT. Scum or Cop for me and scum knew of Rayn's alignment already. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
In my opinion, the XRZ lynch gives us more information, but rayn is far more likely to flip scum based on his behavior throughout this game. @XRZ Why are you willing to lynch me even though the entire case on me rests on you being scum? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote: Maybe scum didn't believe rayn was a cop anymore. I am pretty sure that I didn't believe rayn was a cop and that XRZ was the real cop. So you don´t remember if you believed i am a cop or not? Pretty weak dude. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:40 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I'm finally at my computer for a few minutes. In my opinion, the XRZ lynch gives us more information, but rayn is far more likely to flip scum based on his behavior throughout this game. @XRZ Why are you willing to lynch me even though the entire case on me rests on you being scum? Are you claiming Cop then? Because if you think that scum have an RB and all town has is a Vet then I have a bridge to sell you. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
What exactly makes Clarity/CJS/Oats confirmed town if XRZ flips town? I didn't really follow that reasoning. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:40 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I'm finally at my computer for a few minutes. In my opinion, the XRZ lynch gives us more information, but rayn is far more likely to flip scum based on his behavior throughout this game. @XRZ Why are you willing to lynch me even though the entire case on me rests on you being scum? Also this dude is totally scum. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:41 hzflank wrote: Are you claiming Cop then? Because if you think that scum have an RB and all town has is a Vet then I have a bridge to sell you. I'm a VT, not a cop. Please, sell me the bridge. (I have no idea what that saying means) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Well maybe scum didn't believe that rayn was a cop (not too many of us did), so that means that they don't have to kill him with him being a prime lynchtarget. The small off-chance that he might be a cop he was going to go for Oats, something mafia allowed for x reason. There are so many possibilities left in this game. I think that only a very few are confirmed town. I would say rayn/hz at this point? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Can we agree to a truce until I can get my bearings around how this new interaction with you and XRZ makes me feel about you? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can´t possibly be that dumb Koshi and FT if you are town, can you? It looks like I am and this game I am not even offended. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:42 FirmTofu wrote: @rayn What exactly makes Clarity/CJS/Oats confirmed town if XRZ flips town? I didn't really follow that reasoning. Town has Vet and Cop. If Exar flips town then he was telling the truth about being roleblocked. Scum do not have a RBer and a GF as they would be imbalanced. Rayn has a green check on CJS. Clarity was roleblocked. Oats is not confirmed town, just a little bit more likely based on assumptions (Rayn said he was going to check Oats). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:46 FirmTofu wrote: rayn, if you are town, then you need to stop attacking me and answer my questions properly. I am willing to give you a chance but you aren't even willing to consider the possibility that I am town. Can we agree to a truce until I can get my bearings around how this new interaction with you and XRZ makes me feel about you? Your assumption is that i am mafia and XRZ is town. Do you really think mafia has a roleblocker in a game where they have nothing to roleblock as the only role for town would be a veteran? In addition to this, if we lynch exarezee and he some-fucking-how flips town, that clears: 1) Clarity because scum have a roleblocker, and roleblocking one of their own on N1 is beyond stupid. 2) Oats because he can´t be a godfather, and if he was mafia scum would not let me check him on N2. 3) Corazon because i have a green check on him. There is not a roleblocker + GF versus one cop, that´s impossible. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:43 Koshi wrote: Well maybe scum didn't believe that rayn was a cop (not too many of us did), so that means that they don't have to kill him with him being a prime lynchtarget. The small off-chance that he might be a cop he was going to go for Oats, something mafia allowed for x reason. There are so many possibilities left in this game. I think that only a very few are confirmed town. I would say rayn/hz at this point? It's possible, but not likely. Based on what Rayn did both at the start and the end of D2 he was likely to be either scum or cop. Scum knew that Rayn was not scum, so if they thought that he was not Cop they made a big mistake. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:48 hzflank wrote: Town has Vet and Cop. If Exar flips town then he was telling the truth about being roleblocked. Scum do not have a RBer and a GF as they would be imbalanced. Rayn has a green check on CJS. Clarity was roleblocked. Oats is not confirmed town, just a little bit more likely based on assumptions (Rayn said he was going to check Oats). Thank you hz, I appreciate it. If I understand you correctly, you are saying scum do not have an RBer and GF because both Clarity and XRZ are scum, yes? What if Clarity fakeclaimed that he was roleblocked and then XRZ actually got roleblocked? Is this not a possibility? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:51 FirmTofu wrote: This would mean that Scum did not use their roleblocker N1. Hm, I guess this scenario is much less likely.Thank you hz, I appreciate it. If I understand you correctly, you are saying scum do not have an RBer and GF because both Clarity and XRZ are scum, yes? What if Clarity fakeclaimed that he was roleblocked and then XRZ actually got roleblocked? Is this not a possibility? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:49 hzflank wrote: It's possible, but not likely. Based on what Rayn did both at the start and the end of D2 he was likely to be either scum or cop. Scum knew that Rayn was not scum, so if they thought that he was not Cop they made a big mistake. Why doesn´t anyone listen to this guy who speaks the truth. I know i am bad at explaining stuff so listen to hzflank because he is better than me at explaining and he understands me. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:51 FirmTofu wrote: Thank you hz, I appreciate it. If I understand you correctly, you are saying scum do not have an RBer and GF because both Clarity and XRZ are scum, yes? What if Clarity fakeclaimed that he was roleblocked and then XRZ actually got roleblocked? Is this not a possibility? Scum do not have Rber and Gf if town only have vet and cop in a 10/4 majority setup, because it would be completely imbalanced and this host is not a bastard. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43211 Posts
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