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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#3561
Why do you guys think exarezee made and all in on D2 as town? If he was wrong he would have thrown the game immediately. Why do you guys think exarezee felt extremely offended and got mad when hzflank was thinking he was mafia on N2 as he was in fact fake claiming? Why do you guys think exarezee claimed he checked Oats at the start of D3 as he was fakeclaiming? Why do you guys think exarezee let his perfectly fine guise drop dead as town right after that? Why would he protect me only for one night and not more?

None of this stuff makes sense from town point of view.
table for two on a tv tray
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#3562
CJS, can you see a likely scenario where FT is town?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 18:33 GMT
#3563
On August 03 2013 03:32 hzflank wrote:
CJS, can you see a likely scenario where FT is town?

There is a possibility where mafia has no roleblocker and CJS is a GF. If that´s the situation their guise will fall apart sooner or later.
table for two on a tv tray
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#3564
On August 03 2013 03:32 hzflank wrote:
CJS, can you see a likely scenario where FT is town?

I'll have to get back to you on that one...didn't FT go after XRC hard in the beginning? It would all have to come down to interactions between the two to see if they are scumbuddies or if XRC actually had a town read on FT at that moment in time.

FT is still #3 on my lynch list. He's below Koshi (#1) and Stutters (#2).

"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#3565
On August 03 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:32 hzflank wrote:
CJS, can you see a likely scenario where FT is town?

There is a possibility where mafia has no roleblocker and CJS is a GF. If that´s the situation their guise will fall apart sooner or later.


I know, but from CJS's point of view he knows he is town.

I mean, if Exar is town then the following people are town (from CJS point of view):

Exar
hzflank
Rayn
Clarity
CJS

That is 5 confirmed town. There are only 5 other players of which 2 would be scum. Sorry to make a list again but to make it clear.

Oats
Stutters
FT
Koshi
JAT
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#3566
EBWOP 3 would be scum*
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#3567
All i am saying is that if exarezee is town he just threw the game with his incredibly stupid D3 actions and we should lynch him for that.
table for two on a tv tray
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#3568
On August 03 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
All i am saying is that if exarezee is town he just threw the game with his incredibly stupid D3 actions and we should lynch him for that.


I agree. But...

If we can say that the 100% only reason that scum-Exar would possibly do what he did if FT is also scum then we probably get better odds by lynching FT today instead of Exar, no?

If it is not possible that Exar is scum and FT is town, but the opposite is possible, then it makes more sense to lynch FT imo.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#3569
Also, if exarezee flips town, that confirms Clarity, CJS, and Oatsmaster as town.
Clarity because scum have a roleblocker.
CJS and Oats because of scum not having a GF.

exarezee lynch is the best we can do today. Believe me guys.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#3570
On August 03 2013 03:39 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
All i am saying is that if exarezee is town he just threw the game with his incredibly stupid D3 actions and we should lynch him for that.


I agree. But...

If we can say that the 100% only reason that scum-Exar would possibly do what he did if FT is also scum then we probably get better odds by lynching FT today instead of Exar, no?

If it is not possible that Exar is scum and FT is town, but the opposite is possible, then it makes more sense to lynch FT imo.

If exarezee was protecting his scumbuddy from getting lynched that dude he was protecting was CJS and not FT, as he himself pointed out.
table for two on a tv tray
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#3571
Actually, if Exar were scum he could of pulled that to save GF-Cora or RB-FT. Lets be honest, trading goon Mal for a scum PR was not a bad trade.

However, due to the great risk of scum claiming cop I do not think it would of been a good play to save GF-Cora. Saving RB-FT would of been better for scum as if the Roleblocker flips then Clarity is town.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#3572
On August 03 2013 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:39 hzflank wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
All i am saying is that if exarezee is town he just threw the game with his incredibly stupid D3 actions and we should lynch him for that.


I agree. But...

If we can say that the 100% only reason that scum-Exar would possibly do what he did if FT is also scum then we probably get better odds by lynching FT today instead of Exar, no?

If it is not possible that Exar is scum and FT is town, but the opposite is possible, then it makes more sense to lynch FT imo.

If exarezee was protecting his scumbuddy from getting lynched that dude he was protecting was CJS and not FT, as he himself pointed out.


Well we do need to ask ourselves why Exar would of pulled that if he were scum.

Was killing Mal and risking himself worth saving the GF?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#3573
On August 03 2013 03:42 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:39 hzflank wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
All i am saying is that if exarezee is town he just threw the game with his incredibly stupid D3 actions and we should lynch him for that.


I agree. But...

If we can say that the 100% only reason that scum-Exar would possibly do what he did if FT is also scum then we probably get better odds by lynching FT today instead of Exar, no?

If it is not possible that Exar is scum and FT is town, but the opposite is possible, then it makes more sense to lynch FT imo.

If exarezee was protecting his scumbuddy from getting lynched that dude he was protecting was CJS and not FT, as he himself pointed out.


Well we do need to ask ourselves why Exar would of pulled that if he were scum.

Was killing Mal and risking himself worth saving the GF?

Because in that case mafia has no roleblocker and their only role is GF-Corazon. There is no reason to protect a roleblocker that does not exist.
table for two on a tv tray
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#3574
When Exar claimed there was every chance that the votes would swap back to FT. It really depended on what Vayne did. Stutters left his vote on FT and I never moved my vote until after the claim.

Also, CJS voted for Mal quite early and pushed it a bit.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:46 GMT
#3575
On August 03 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:42 hzflank wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:39 hzflank wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
All i am saying is that if exarezee is town he just threw the game with his incredibly stupid D3 actions and we should lynch him for that.


I agree. But...

If we can say that the 100% only reason that scum-Exar would possibly do what he did if FT is also scum then we probably get better odds by lynching FT today instead of Exar, no?

If it is not possible that Exar is scum and FT is town, but the opposite is possible, then it makes more sense to lynch FT imo.

If exarezee was protecting his scumbuddy from getting lynched that dude he was protecting was CJS and not FT, as he himself pointed out.


Well we do need to ask ourselves why Exar would of pulled that if he were scum.

Was killing Mal and risking himself worth saving the GF?

Because in that case mafia has no roleblocker and their only role is GF-Corazon. There is no reason to protect a roleblocker that does not exist.


Even still, is that worth the risk? Saving the RB would of been worth it not only because they save the power role, but also because they prevent Clarity being confirmed town.

Saving the GF does not prevent anyone additional being confirmed town unless they know that the cop will soon check the GF.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:48 GMT
#3576
Rayn, I do not know Cora but you do. If he were scum would he of let Exar pull that to save the godfather? It seems like a bad move for scum that an experience player (Cora?) would put a stop to.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#3577
Are you guys actively thinking about scenarios where Rayn and XRC are both town or are you just slipping more and more into confirmation bias?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#3578
I'm awake, sup kids.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#3579
On August 03 2013 03:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Are you guys actively thinking about scenarios where Rayn and XRC are both town or are you just slipping more and more into confirmation bias?


Well, I can only do one thing at a time. First I am making sure why I think XRZ would do what he did as scum. Then I am going to look into what it means if XRZ did what he did at town.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#3580
On August 03 2013 04:00 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Are you guys actively thinking about scenarios where Rayn and XRC are both town or are you just slipping more and more into confirmation bias?


Well, I can only do one thing at a time. First I am making sure why I think XRZ would do what he did as scum. Then I am going to look into what it means if XRZ did what he did at town.

Well I am glad that you are going to look into both sides of the argument.
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
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