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On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"?
worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool.
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On August 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Same question to Clarity.
Please just post once instead of thrice.
Yes.
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On August 03 2013 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
CJS and exarezee do you guys think i am confirmed town or not?
no, you are not confirmed. You are cop unless there is no cop in the game in which you would therefore be scum. I thought the chance of you being cop were like 99%, but captain jack has said that its a possibility there's no cop in the game in this setup.
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There's a possibility but I think Rayn is most likely cop.
Rayn, please stop posting. You don't need to push lynches every single post. Your filter is almost 30 pages. It's ridiculous.
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On August 03 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"? worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool.
No town person who was actually trying to win the game would think it worth the risk. I was trying hard to win on D2 and I did not think we lose if we mislynched on FT. You had no right to potentially throw the entire game away for me and every other town player with a fake guilty check.
I am not moving my vote today.
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On August 03 2013 02:43 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"? worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool. No town person who was actually trying to win the game would think it worth the risk. I was trying hard to win on D2 and I did not think we lose if we mislynched on FT. You had no right to potentially throw the entire game away for me and every other town player with a fake guilty check. I am not moving my vote today.
I have the right to do whatever I want to win the game.
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You guys are silly. XRZ is so obviously town it hurts that you guys are voting for him.
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I saw the scenario as basically must lynch, and I took matters into my hands. How do I not have the right to do that? That's like saying at final 3 of 2 town, and 1 scum...the 1st person to vote has to be scum, because he's taking matters into his own hands.
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On August 03 2013 02:41 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
CJS and exarezee do you guys think i am confirmed town or not? no, you are not confirmed. You are cop unless there is no cop in the game in which you would therefore be scum. I thought the chance of you being cop were like 99%, but captain jack has said that its a possibility there's no cop in the game in this setup.
There is no other cop in the game, that´s damn sure. They would have counterclaimed us at last at the start of D3. You were roleblocked, remember? Your conclusion is that there might be a roleblocker in the game with nothing to roleblock?
On August 03 2013 02:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
There's a possibility but I think Rayn is most likely cop.
Rayn, please stop posting. You don't need to push lynches every single post. Your filter is almost 30 pages. It's ridiculous.
If you believe there is a roleblocker in the game then you must assume i am the cop. If you do not assume i am a cop and therefore scum you must also believe there is no roleblocker, in which case the scumteam for you is me/clarity/XRZ. Now why are you not voting for XRZ because every single scenario includes him being mafia?
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Rayn,
WE ALL THINK UR THE DAMN COP.
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I'm going out of town for 2 days. About to start the 3 hour drive. I will be on my phone posting. I'll piggyback onto captain jack, clarity, or rayn on who they want to lynch. They are my close to guaranteed town group without a flip.
2 of them think I'm scum though. so LOL.
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On August 03 2013 01:46 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
You guys are silly.
Keep It Simple Stupid
Scum killed Vayne because he was either right or they wanted to paint his scumreads in red and make it look like they killed Vayne because he was on the right track.
Scum roleblocked XRZ and not Rayn because XRZ had so much more town cred and they knew Rayn was going to get a green check on Oats and still call him gf, allowing scum to refute Rayn's claim.
It's not truly simple, but it's a lot better than the giant ass spider web that Rayn is trying to create.
You are both town in this scenario...
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CJS, all things considered to do still think that Exar is town?
Do you think a VT would of claimed a guilty check 30 minutes before the lynch deadline when we are 1 mislynch from MYLO?
Do you think that it is normal that VT Exar did not think I was town after he got roleblocked?
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On August 03 2013 02:43 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"? worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool. No town person who was actually trying to win the game would think it worth the risk. I was trying hard to win on D2 and I did not think we lose if we mislynched on FT. You had no right to potentially throw the entire game away for me and every other town player with a fake guilty check. I am not moving my vote today.
This is a bit extreme hz. Not a logical argument like I've come to expect from you this game.
You genuinely seem upset at the thought of a townie doing this, to the point that you ignore the possibility altogether.
Myself, I am having doubts.
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So your thought process is that mafia killed vayne, a person who had absolutely zero credibility to convince anyone in this game even when Malongo flipped red, just because he was on the right track or wanted to paint his targets red (i was also one of them, remember). They did kill vayne over 2 claimed cops and let me have a check on Oats because i would call that green check scum afterwards? You are not making very much sense here.
The only reason vayne was killed was because it was a blue snipe and XRZ is the only person who could possibly assume vayne is blue.
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On August 03 2013 03:20 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 02:43 hzflank wrote:On August 03 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"? worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool. No town person who was actually trying to win the game would think it worth the risk. I was trying hard to win on D2 and I did not think we lose if we mislynched on FT. You had no right to potentially throw the entire game away for me and every other town player with a fake guilty check. I am not moving my vote today. This is a bit extreme hz. Not a logical argument like I've come to expect from you this game. You genuinely seem upset at the thought of a townie doing this, to the point that you ignore the possibility altogether. Myself, I am having doubts.
It is not extreme at all. If XRZ is telling the truth and Malongo flipped green we would have instantly lost the game because we would have lynched XRZ the following day under any circumstances. You don´t do that kind of shit as town.
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On August 03 2013 03:20 hzflank wrote:
CJS, all things considered to do still think that Exar is town?
Do you think a VT would of claimed a guilty check 30 minutes before the lynch deadline when we are 1 mislynch from MYLO?
Do you think that it is normal that VT Exar did not think I was town after he got roleblocked?
I think Exar is town still.
He wanted a lynch and he had a scumread on Malongo so he claimed and lynched scum. It worked. If you had doubts about the claim you shouldn't have voted for Malongo. The fact that we are still talking about this is kind of silly.
I'll look into the last part but playing like an idiot isn't a scumtell, as Rayn is very near confirmed town...
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On August 03 2013 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 03:20 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 02:43 hzflank wrote:On August 03 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"? worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool. No town person who was actually trying to win the game would think it worth the risk. I was trying hard to win on D2 and I did not think we lose if we mislynched on FT. You had no right to potentially throw the entire game away for me and every other town player with a fake guilty check. I am not moving my vote today. This is a bit extreme hz. Not a logical argument like I've come to expect from you this game. You genuinely seem upset at the thought of a townie doing this, to the point that you ignore the possibility altogether. Myself, I am having doubts. It is not extreme at all. If XRZ is telling the truth and Malongo flipped green we would have instantly lost the game because we would have lynched XRZ the following day under any circumstances. You don´t do that kind of shit as town.
I mean, there's a lot of shit you shouldn't do as town, but they do it all the time.
Vayne's day 1 comes to mind.
I agree it's dumb as fuck but it doesn't make it scum on its own.
He's likely scum though. I'll be back later
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On August 03 2013 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your thought process is that mafia killed vayne, a person who had absolutely zero credibility to convince anyone in this game even when Malongo flipped red, just because he was on the right track or wanted to paint his targets red (i was also one of them, remember). They did kill vayne over 2 claimed cops and let me have a check on Oats because i would call that green check scum afterwards? You are not making very much sense here.
The only reason vayne was killed was because it was a blue snipe and XRZ is the only person who could possibly assume vayne is blue.
It's a scenario where you both are town. Just think about it and see if it makse sense.
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On August 03 2013 03:20 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 02:43 hzflank wrote:On August 03 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:On August 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
"I'd rather we take a mislynch today than not lynch malongo" equals "I am 100% certain malongo is scum and will risk the entire game on it"? worth the risk imo. town has little to no chance of winning if malongo were town. there would be the same suspicion and case on him every single day, the rest of the game. And you have one less townperson in your voting pool. No town person who was actually trying to win the game would think it worth the risk. I was trying hard to win on D2 and I did not think we lose if we mislynched on FT. You had no right to potentially throw the entire game away for me and every other town player with a fake guilty check. I am not moving my vote today. This is a bit extreme hz. Not a logical argument like I've come to expect from you this game. You genuinely seem upset at the thought of a townie doing this, to the point that you ignore the possibility altogether. Myself, I am having doubts.
Tbh I did genuinely get annoyed there. This was because Exar is calling me and Rayn bad at town while he just did something which I consider awful as town.
Do you agree with: If Exar is scum, the only reason he risks that guilty claim is if FT is RBer?
CJS cannot be RBer because of the green check. If we had lynched the RBer then Clarity is confirmed town. If Exar is town then scum think that we have 2 cops + a Vet + confirmed town clarity and they no longer have a roleblocker. That puts scum in an extreme situation.
That is the only good reason I can see for scum-Exar making that move.
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