EPTI like the idea of "vote values" for the 2 player houses, though.
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
I like the idea of "vote values" for the 2 player houses, though. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 31 2013 10:04 Chromatically wrote: What's the problem with the last player in the house being permanent lord? I think that's just something to take into consideration when choosing lynches/nks. I like the idea of "vote values" for the 2 player houses, though. Well, that's true I guess. Still, it feels a bit counter-intuitive that your House becomes "stronger" / better as your fellow players within the House die. That kind of encourages you to preferably get rid of your own House members first instead of other players.... And that makes the House members against each other more than against other Houses. Although maybe that somehow weirdly fits into the theme  Dunno... | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
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Oberyn
United Kingdom508 Posts
On July 31 2013 10:04 Chromatically wrote: What's the problem with the last player in the house being permanent lord? I think that's just something to take into consideration when choosing lynches/nks. It's difficult to say how things will work out without knowing the roles, house distribution or how the kp are balanced, but with only 6 votes, mafia would need to control only three houses each day to control the lynch or two houses to force town to vote perfectly. Mafia can manipulate the night hits to eliminate 1-2 lords of the houses they don't control and obtain the runner-up Lordship. Furthermore, 1-2 mafia would likely get selected as Lords through the Lord selection vote. The mafia also have the option of targeting their own house with night kills to guarantee Lordship. I'm just worried things might spiral out of control with mafia having too much influence in the day cycle too quickly. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
If it is still full add me as a /replacement | ||
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Nachomamma8
United States1 Post
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 31 2013 22:53 Oberyn wrote: It's difficult to say how things will work out without knowing the roles, house distribution or how the kp are balanced, but with only 6 votes, mafia would need to control only three houses each day to control the lynch or two houses to force town to vote perfectly. Mafia can manipulate the night hits to eliminate 1-2 lords of the houses they don't control and obtain the runner-up Lordship. Furthermore, 1-2 mafia would likely get selected as Lords through the Lord selection vote. The mafia also have the option of targeting their own house with night kills to guarantee Lordship. I'm just worried things might spiral out of control with mafia having too much influence in the day cycle too quickly. I agree that it seems a bit too advantageous for Mafia to probably get majority in the voting by D3-D4. Although this problem might fade away if we increase the player amount, I guess. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 01 2013 02:45 Xatalos wrote: I agree that it seems a bit too advantageous for Mafia to probably get majority in the voting by D3-D4. Although this problem might fade away if we increase the player amount, I guess. If everyone form your faction flipped and none of those guys was scum yet, I predict rather short livings for you. Wouldn't worry too much about it. | ||
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Oberyn
United Kingdom508 Posts
On August 01 2013 03:06 Dandel Ion wrote: If everyone form your faction flipped and none of those guys was scum yet, I predict rather short livings for you. Wouldn't worry too much about it. We don't have any information about mafia distribution so that's doesn't necessarily make the remaining player mafia. Plus, suppose we lynch the final member of the house and they are town. Now the mafia team has even more control of the lynch by removing a guaranteed town vote from the pool. Without knowing the setup though, I suppose there are ways for things to work out so things aren't so mafia favored. I'll wait until the game begins to see how things turn out. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Btw if the vote value idea gets implemented, I think the values should be hidden. Maybe they should also be completely random in order to avoid setup/balance WIFOM... That might seem like "just luck", but actually it's not when you know what you got beforehand. It's completely different to play poker compared to rolling a dice, for example  Any feedback on this? At the moment, I think it's a better solution than full random tie results or rewarding the faster voter, but it's hard to say how it might play out in practice. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
On July 30 2013 15:18 Ace wrote: /replacement interesting mechanics Ace you want to change that to an /in? more slots are open now Adding more slots, obviously. The game will be starting on Monday Aug 5th. I've had bad experience doing weekend starts, plus we need a couple days to fill in the few remaining slots. | ||
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:08 Xatalos wrote: 3) Making the *requirement* for becoming a Lord to receive majority votes (2-0, 2-1 or 3-1 depending on the remaining players) - this solution would also resolve the tie issue - you'd have to decide between no Lord at all or someone else than you being Lord Thoughts? This was originally how I had it set up. I might change it to this because I think that's more interesting, but with the extra players per house a change isn't needed. actually fuck it imma do it. that was how i originally wanted to do things, yall just gonna have to cope with the extra in-house tension | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On August 01 2013 17:23 DrParnassus wrote: This was originally how I had it set up. I might change it to this because I think that's more interesting, but with the extra players per house a change isn't needed. actually fuck it imma do it. that was how i originally wanted to do things, yall just gonna have to cope with the extra in-house tension Haha okay. At least that removes the "luck factor" and possible timezone advantage. The worst case scenario, though, is Mafia forcing non-elections where they can't win - but on the other hand, it's too dangerous to do that too clearly What about the vote value idea? And what happens when someone is the last remaining player in a House?Monday is okay with me. Sign up people! (Btw what's so bad about weekend starts? More people AFK at the start?) | ||
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
On August 01 2013 18:54 Xatalos wrote: Haha okay. At least that removes the "luck factor" and possible timezone advantage. The worst case scenario, though, is Mafia forcing non-elections where they can't win - but on the other hand, it's too dangerous to do that too clearly What about the vote value idea? And what happens when someone is the last remaining player in a House?Monday is okay with me. Sign up people! (Btw what's so bad about weekend starts? More people AFK at the start?) They are perma-lord. I guess I could make them vote for themselves but that's a little silly. I've done a weekend start or two and the D1s were soooo slow. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17705 Posts
/in! Haven't read the OP, but I promise to be active and follow any other requirements placed in the OP, including reading it! | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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