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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Mocsta... NEVER PLAY MAFIA AGAIN UMGG Nah, if he's sitting out A game that's fine. Permanent ban is if you consistently call someone's mother a whore, then post porn in the thread and then stream a live execution of your dog on the internet..... and post your scumlist etc. Players shouldn't be impartial at all to stuff like this though, mocsta, but koshi needs to put down the pitchfork. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Can I ruin 5 games like that before I get permabanned? I don't want Mocsta banned atm. But it would be cool if the rules became very strict on this matter for the future. I don't see a problem if the OP said "if you get yourself modkilled by purposely breaking these rules you get permabanned." Then followed by a couple rules that should never get broken. Posting something on purpose the get yourself modkilled is one of those rules. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Did bot recently firm tofu have an incident where a scum conceded to a similar scenario you described. No ban eventuated. As stated I'm sitting out a game. Lets move on please. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Yeah it sucks and I'm sure Mocsta feels bad, but in the end it's simply not the end of the world by any stretch. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 22 2013 19:06 Koshi wrote: I don't agree. Imagine I would post my role in the Titanic game and you lynch Stutters after that FT and Cora is demotivated and just surrenders. Can I ruin 5 games like that before I get permabanned? I don't want Mocsta banned atm. But it would be cool if the rules became very strict on this matter for the future. I don't see a problem if the OP said "if you get yourself modkilled by purposely breaking these rules you get permabanned." Then followed by a couple rules that should never get broken. Posting something on purpose the get yourself modkilled is one of those rules. I mean, if you show intent of ruining every game you are entering then yeah, I reckon it would happen a bit sooner. Do you believe mocsta replaced in this game with the intent of ruining it? Or did it just happen cause things got heated. edit: ninjad | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Like, this wasn't just a modkill or ragequit, it was an attempt to influence the game with a forced modkill. I think a three-game ban is more appropriate than a one-game. This should include the one that mocsta already has decided not to participate in, so two more games. But some rules are much more serious than others, and those rules need to be enforced more strongly than everyday infractions. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
I'll remind you that his modkill made the votes from town 3-2 scum to 2-2, essentially fucking any chance to ever lynch scum. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:52 Dandel Ion wrote: help your team? I'll remind you that his modkill made the votes from town 3-2 scum to 2-2, essentially fucking any chance to ever lynch scum. This was my impression as well. Pretty much the least timely modkill for town imaginable, wasn't it? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 22 2013 23:52 Dandel Ion wrote: help your team? I'll remind you that his modkill made the votes from town 3-2 scum to 2-2, essentially fucking any chance to ever lynch scum. Yep, but the intention was there, which is what matters in these situations. edit: let me clarify I guess. Mocsta was almost certainly either going to be lynched or shot. He was aware of this and from my perspective (although mocsta has not said this as far as I'm aware) he got himself modkilled because he thought it might benefit town. Yes, it turns out it removed town's majority in votes that cycle but mocsta did not know this at the time, I assume he thought he was making it possible for town to lynch/shoot scum instead of him. That's not to say I agree that he needs more than a 1 game ban, not sure what I think about this yet, but it's worth discussing I realize you were just co-hosting marv, but could you explain why the hosts have not really commented on this situation yet? Or if any other hosts are around, ofcourse. On August 22 2013 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would really like if GoT hosts brought up the Mocsta issue here. Purposely getting yourself modkilled is ruining the game for everyone. At least that's how i feel. That's the worst thing you can do. Play against your wincon and ruin the game for people. I also remember myself getting a 5 game ban for the same thing. Why are different people treated differently in these kind of situations? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
1) has to cheat to be useful in any way 2) fails even at cheating 3) game lost | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Can't really blame the loss on mocsta, can blame him for breaking the rules, though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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