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Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response)
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On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response)
Dandel Ion is nothing compared to Chezinu...
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On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response)
He is trying to bury important things, of course....
Dang everyone read pages 72-80, 85-90 at the least. Better to read 72-89, but that is a helluva lot.
Onegu, just no. This is helpful.
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88 specifically is also a good page.
All this is in my filter! If my filter can document important pages, I can help bogged town even after death!
I will do this soon, in one post.
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On July 10 2013 05:23 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:19 Xatalos wrote:
I agree - except about jampidampi.
1) It's not scummy to make a simple mistake like that (what would be the scum motive for that?)
2) His posts about your claim seemed to make sense otherwise
3) I looked through his filter earlier today and didn't find him scummy in any way, so I find him relatively townish for reasons outside of this incident
The one worrying thing about him is his excessive focus on your claim. It would indeed be an easy topic for scum to appear active and contributive (without actually scumhunting). Probably worth it to keep an eye on him, but definitely not to lynch him (at least at this point). Can we chat about 3)? I'm interested in your finding his filter townie and why dat be, or whether you have other "reasons outside of this incident." To me, his filter IS dominated by excessive focus on the claim, and so overall I don't love the filter. Is there something in particular during the early posts that pops out to you as town? Or just his general posting on rayn.
Okay, maybe I overestimated jampidampi's townishness. Must be because I read it after reading through the filters of players like MajuGarzett, Abenson etc. damn scummy lurkers. Anything looks good compared to that.
I'd put jampidampi as null rather than townish atm. His only actually noticeable contribution to the thread so far has been that analysis of rayn's claim, which is fine, but as his ONLY real contribution... not so much. Scum could do that just as easily as town. In fact, scum might prefer to do something like that instead of scumhunting.
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On July 10 2013 05:40 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:23 austinmcc wrote:On July 10 2013 05:19 Xatalos wrote:
I agree - except about jampidampi.
1) It's not scummy to make a simple mistake like that (what would be the scum motive for that?)
2) His posts about your claim seemed to make sense otherwise
3) I looked through his filter earlier today and didn't find him scummy in any way, so I find him relatively townish for reasons outside of this incident
The one worrying thing about him is his excessive focus on your claim. It would indeed be an easy topic for scum to appear active and contributive (without actually scumhunting). Probably worth it to keep an eye on him, but definitely not to lynch him (at least at this point). Can we chat about 3)? I'm interested in your finding his filter townie and why dat be, or whether you have other "reasons outside of this incident." To me, his filter IS dominated by excessive focus on the claim, and so overall I don't love the filter. Is there something in particular during the early posts that pops out to you as town? Or just his general posting on rayn. Okay, maybe I overestimated jampidampi's townishness. Must be because I read it after reading through the filters of players like MajuGarzett, Abenson etc. damn scummy lurkers. Anything looks good compared to that. I'd put jampidampi as null rather than townish atm. His only actually noticeable contribution to the thread so far has been that analysis of rayn's claim, which is fine, but as his ONLY real contribution... not so much. Scum could do that just as easily as town. In fact, scum might prefer to do something like that instead of scumhunting.
Awwww, you better actually be town. + Show Spoiler +On July 10 2013 04:02 austinmcc wrote:
Moreover, I actually find suspicious the people that came out of the woodwork JUST to talk about you and the nuke. Ace has been more or less townie to me, but spending pages and pages arguing with people for little reason actually gives me the impression that he's happy to post and muck up the thread. Jampidampi looks odd for me because he gets involved in very, very little on D1, and now half of his filter is posts about you and your claim. Your claim is easy pickings for mafia to get active, to fill filter either accusing someone of being mafia for lying (ezpz townie thing to do) or fill filter about why your lying doesn't make sense (ezpz thing to do).
Right? It's an easy topic of discussion that isn't really scumhunting, isn't really moving things forward. You just give your thoughts, recycle them, argue about them, but the whole thing is meaningless and it's just a great opportunity to LOOK active.
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On July 10 2013 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response) He is trying to bury important things, of course.... Dang everyone read pages 72-75, and then 87-90, at the least. Better to read 72-89, but that is a helluva lot. Onegu, just no. This is helpful.
EBWOP.
Cut out some unimportant for the time-pressed.
Anyone have early page suggestions?
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I would also be down for a lynch on VA for the reasons I gave earlier as well austin's case. I don't suspect FirmToufu so that's not a problem for me. FirmTofu may have been against DI's lynch but that lynch did move pretty fast so I think that action is caution rather than trying to save his scum buddy. FT has also done a good amount of analysis.
Rayn asked me for some specific reads so here:
WoS nuke redirect I don't find scummy because if he was scum the only reason for a redirect would be to gain credit which could only be done by redirecting the nuke to scum.Also, I really doubt that he would save a scum buddy like that as if one of them dies the other is sure to be caught. WoS was also accepted that Rayn's nuke claim didn't make sense for scum quite early. I think if WoS was scum he would have tried to pressure Rayn a bit more. So WoS is probably town.
MZ is town, I don't have any evidence to the contrary and neither does anyone else I've seen.
I still suspect Onegu. Looking at his filter the only read he's given is repeating Xata is 100% town. He's said this 3 times so far and uses it as an excuse to sheep.
Rayn's claim doesn't make sense for scum so I don't suspect him.
Best lynch targets are VA, Onegu, and DI.
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Also, xat, as long as you're here, could you look at FirmTofu and VA?
Vayne was black on your read list, but there's been a decent bit written about him lately. FirmTofu was town on your list of reads, but he was part of a group at lynch time that you were concerned with (Although you noted that you weren't concerned with him out of the people in the group). What in particular has you town on him?
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On July 10 2013 05:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response) He is trying to bury important things, of course.... Dang everyone read pages 72-75, and then 87-90, at the least. Better to read 72-89, but that is a helluva lot. Onegu, just no. This is helpful. EBWOP. Cut out some unimportant for the time-pressed. Anyone have early page suggestions?
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Why not point out something interesting about those pages rather than spamming the page numbers? What you're doing helps nobody and achieves nothing.
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On July 10 2013 05:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response) He is trying to bury important things, of course.... Dang everyone read pages 72-75, and then 87-90, at the least. Better to read 72-89, but that is a helluva lot. Onegu, just no. This is helpful. EBWOP. Cut out some unimportant for the time-pressed. Anyone have early page suggestions? I will admit that I have a hard time figuring out if you're actually getting at something in particular or no. You find these pages, and the page sets you've referenced earlier, to be important because of specific posts or specific things that happen? Like...it would be helpful if you either got to where you're trying to go, or possibly changed tracks and got somewhere in general. I just can't tell what you're trying to do fully.
As best I can tell, but don't know explicit page numbers, good spots to look are where ACTION took place. Chez's nuke and the following calls for him to be nuked or not. Redirects/saves/claims concerning those. People's reasons for hopping on the ON wagon/off the ON wagon.
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Hey guys, I've been following the thread, but haven't had the time to respond. I'm done with class for the day, but I'm going to head over to the gym so ill be available for questioning in about 1.5 hrs.
I think jampidampi is scum right now. I will explain more in detail later. If anyone suspects me or has any quick questions, I will be available for about 10 minutes.
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On July 09 2013 21:54 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 13:46 Alakaslam wrote:Was starting to throw this together + Show Spoiler +On July 09 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WaveofShadow: Answer me this.
I launched a nuke on Meapak. You were scummy as hell, came back in thread and implied you have a desire to use your power. Then you redirected the nuke from Meapak to NG. Now if you and Meapak are both scum and i am town, how does this not make sense from my point of view to call you both mafia? Desires to paint Mepak and WoS as mafia On July 09 2013 09:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Wait rayn, after you nuked me you called me town. Also you called me town all the up until now when you started disliking WoS's retarget. Take your tinfoil hat off, you're making me wish I had died.
Doesn't make sense bruh
Also fuck you guys for not lynching dandel, he came back and did literally nothing and then peaced the fuck out. Absolutely disgraceful.
At some point tonight I'm gonna do another big reads list because I fully expect to die tonight despite all the claimed blues -_- Mepak calls bs Which is 1000x harder on iPhone. Then I realized: EVERYONE, PLEASE JUST READ PAGES 72-77.It really needs the context. How on earth is rayn not at the very least confirmed lying? What is his motive for all that? Why dont you say what you want us to see, really bad to just say go look. Show nested quote +Ok. He was the host of my other game, where I was completely different.I don't see a scum read on me from anyone who hosted in that game (or even played in it) as at all implausible. I am so different I know it. I have gone from (to use jungle book analogies) Disney Baloo to Rudyard Kipling Kaa in the space of two games.(In reality though that is just comparative. I am very like ohai i am nwe heer plz help me btw blazinghand cooler than cool hehehe Both games. Just this one I see most of TL mafia is pretty cool at it <3<3<3 as everyone from FirmTofu to Ace has managed to impress me at some point.)
Show nested quote +Geript's answer strikes me as smarter than mine would have been. I would have labelled myself yet scummier, as it means I am consciously being different.I would still have said this. The coaching I (unconsciously) ignored last time? Calm down, be honest. That's all, and it probably would have prevented Lylo if I had followed that advice better (I thought I was, somehow).
Alakaslam are you trying to play different by makeing zero reads, sheeping answers, and posting fluff? Please its not like that.
I don't post reads until I am very sure of myself.
Scumhunting is the act of confirming your reads or am I wrong?
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On July 10 2013 05:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay, here we go: This is the situation:N1 just started. We mislynched OriginalName. Chezinu launched a nuke on Xatalos, Oatsmaster defended that nuke. A silent nuke was launched towards Meapak. WoS redirected the nuke to NG. Chezinu has claimed his nuke was harmless. Before that Johnnywup claimed that he thinks he has a similar role to Chezinu and had to nuke. He nuked TanGeng. Everybody hit by a nuke died and flipped town. We are 3 townies down. Bad. This means everyone in town is pretty clueless or mafia has the control of the game. These are my thoughts (mainly on the silent nuke - which we know was harmful); Meapak is probably town and the silent nuker is mafia. A townie has no reason to not announce he nuked someone in thread, even if the nuke is silent. If they do not announce it, they are withholding information from the town, information that mafia already has (as they did not launch the nuke in that case). So the silent nuker is mafia, there is no other explanation. WoS is probably town for redirecting the nuke to a scummy guy (NG). As the nuke is from mafia, there is one thing that concerns me. What if Meapak & WoS are both mafia and they made a powerplay with a nuke to "confirm" them. I want to know if that's the case. This is my plan:I claim that i nuked Meapak to throw mafia off their game. Seriously, think about it. You are mafia and some townie claims a nuke you have launched. Would it throw you off? You need to comment on the matter somehow, as by reading my filter there is an obvious lie, just that you know EXACTLY where the lie is (in "i nuked MZ"). Mafia gets confused. As from townies however, i expect four sorts of behaviour: 1) Straight out calling me the stupidest player ever. 2) Analyzing the situation from mafia/town perspective and reach into a conclusion (why would i claim i nuked MZ as either alignment, especially as mafia). 3) Point out the obvious contradiction in my posts and question me about it. 4) Can't understand anything that's going on with me, question me or go back to 1) Who did (1):Meapak and WoS. This is perfectly understandable because they were involved in this particular business from the beginning. I can understand their thought process, insta "wtf is this, this is the stupidest idiot ever". Who did (2):Oats. Oats realized there is no way i would have claimed that nuke as mafia. It makes no sense. As mafia i would not benefit about it at all. Who did (3):Alaskaslam. He did ask the right question when he looked at the situation. This is the correct post to dig up: + Show Spoiler +On July 09 2013 10:34 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 08 2013 09:02 Ace wrote:On July 07 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 18:31 geript wrote:
@rayn... was that you? No it was not me. I think town should claim all their nukes so that we can tell for sure if there is an unclaimed nuke that's from scum. I don't see any downside doing so. Either way if this nuke to MZ is from town, please claim it whoever shot it. If nobody claims it probably means MZ is town, i was wrong, and mafia is trying to frame me. Setup is closed and we don't know what role mechanics exist. Claiming nukes this early with little information is pointless. Also, if Scum know who holds nukes that may lead to them NKing Town with KP if they have nukes themselves. This is something i wanted to comment on earlier but forgot. Ace i think you are misunderstanding me; I was trying to say if you are town and launch a nuke you should claim it even if the nuke is silent. This way we know that every nuke not claimed in thread when launched is from mafia (that seems to be the case with the nuke on MZ). Then you didn't claim it until now. So Lying and foolishly so, but I haven't had to play scum ever so idunno, I bet it gets hard. Seeing as I suck this bad at town, I would probably be a day1 red flip come a scum game. But wow I have never seen such a resounding call, well done Mepak_Ziph, you deserve our ears. That's spot on. Why did i not follow my own advice in claiming nukes? Who did (4):Afaik noone. Now about people who are scum and why:What i was looking was behaviour that does not fall into any category i described before. Think about this from mafia pov. You don't know what i am up to. I have obviously fakeclaimed to shot a nuke. I am asking you questions. What am i after? I obviously have some sort of a plan, what do you need to answer? Another behaviour is to straight up say "lol you can't possibly have launched that nuke". Austin: Look at pages 71 -> where i claim. What does Austin do? Avoids the whole claiming thing!! He is happy to ask me about anything else and happy to answer questions about anything else but no, he does not talk aboutthe obvious contradiction in my behaviour. I even try to prod him into discussing it by saying "Are you even reading the thread?", but no, he won't. The obvious answer is that he is uncomfortable talking about something he knows more than he should and he knows i know more than what's been said in thread. I can't find any reason why you would not try to figure out why someone is lying as town. Look at Austin now. NOW he's ready to talk about my motives. rofl. Ace:What Ace does after PC. Calls me scum. Why? Because "i was instrumental in turning the DI lynch around." Yeah, me and only me. Not Austin (who made a case) or any other guy like geript/Xatalos etc etc. But me, who has earlier said "Dandel is town and ON is mafia". Makes sense right? Ace does not account my lie, at all. FUCK I DIRECTED THE POST EARLIER TO HIM. The post where i say "Everyone who is town and nukes should claim their nuke instantly". Ace is not bringing this up, but he is bringing up OTHER stuff why i am scum. If he was town that would be an obvious point to bring up, as i have lied. But as Ace is scum he does not know what i am after, therefore he stays silent and let's someone else bring that up so he can add that to my scumminess-list later. And how does he do that. By saying "Meapak caught rayn in a lie and now he is trying to cover it up". rofl. I already talked about how ridiculous that is in thread. If i was scum there would be no lie, as there is absolutely zero reason to claim the nuke as scum!! Ace usually thinks these things true from every perspective, questions the other person about their motives and makes a decision. What about here? A half-arsed case that does not hold water at any point. Take a look at Ace's filter and you can see how he is just trying to find reasons why i am scum and not trying to figure out if i am scum or not. Ace is mafia. Jampidampi:Jampidampi was the first one to bring up that i fakeclaimed the nuke. His thought process seemed fine until he said "rayn can't have launched that nuke because he nuked Xatalos earlier and that nuke did not fly." Silent nuke is silent nuke and probably launched via PM's, that has nothing to do with ##nuke: commands in thread. That's where his thought process falls apart. I think he is too informed about the situation and is trying to make good posts aboutthe situation. Maju:He asks me a random question about launching a nuke on MZ, then goes back to WoS. Definitely not interested in what happened there.
That are all people who stood out for me last night and this morning. If you want to look closer into this, look at people who did not want to talk about the claim at all, and why. I agree - except about jampidampi. 1) It's not scummy to make a simple mistake like that (what would be the scum motive for that?) 2) His posts about your claim seemed to make sense otherwise 3) I looked through his filter earlier today and didn't find him scummy in any way, so I find him relatively townish for reasons outside of this incident The one worrying thing about him is his excessive focus on your claim. It would indeed be an easy topic for scum to appear active and contributive (without actually scumhunting). Probably worth it to keep an eye on him, but definitely not to lynch him (at least at this point).
This is what bothers me about Jampidampi.
This post and analysis is good imo:
On July 09 2013 20:45 jampidampi wrote:Was writing analysis about why Rayn could have possibly claimed the nuke, but since he has admitted that it was some sort of big play that he will explain later, I'm just going to stop right now and post what I had written spoilered below. If he doesn't explain, lynch him. + Show Spoiler +Possible scenarios in which rayn claims the nuke: 1) Rayn is town, actually lauched the nuke, and thinks WoS and Meapak are scum with WoS saving Meapak See my earlier why I think he didn't launch the nuke. 2) Rayn is town and claimed a nuke he didn't launch Some sort of trick to catch scum? For that to be true he must have though that scum launched the nuke. Because if he though town lauched it, he would just get counterclaimed and then be in a shitty situation. 3) Rayn is scum, launched the nuke and claimed it to put heat onto Meapak and WoS See my earlier why I think he didn't launch the nuke. 4) Rayn is scum and claimed a nuke his scumbuddy lauched to put heat onto Meapak and WoS Only possible if - Meapak and WoS are town
- Scum are low on misslynch possibilities
- the scumteam though Rayn had enough towncred to live despite a shitty nuke claim like this
1. because why would scum launch a nuke at scum and why would a scum WoS redirect a nuke from town to town. They can't all three be scum, because why would Rayn put them all in a worse position by claiming the nuke? 2. because why is there otherwise any reason to claim the nuke to put pressure on WoS and Meapak? 3. because it's no use claiming if he just gets lynched. 5) Rayn is scum and claimed a nuke not lauched by his scumbuddy Rayn concludes that since nobody has claimed the nuke, someone must have a reason for not claiming it, be it that they are 3rd party or maybe that they have multiple nukes, and therefore would not counterclaim him. He claims it to put heat onto Meapak and WoS. 6) Rayn is 3rd party Since we don't a possible 3rd partys wincon, I won't speculate on this so much. If he is a 3rd party, the claim is most likely for survival, as not looking so townie makes scum less likely to shoot at you. Other than that, maybe his wincon is related to Meapak dying? It's just too much speculation to think of it this way. The only options that actually make sense are 2, 5 and 6.
But then:
On July 09 2013 21:58 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 21:48 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 21:38 jampidampi wrote:On July 09 2013 21:29 Ace wrote:On July 09 2013 21:25 Xatalos wrote:On July 09 2013 21:19 Ace wrote:
How is it wrong? Be objective here.
There was a concerted effort to turn around the DI lynch. austincc posts a case on ON. Immediately a band wagon forms. DI defends himself and disappears from the thread. ON defends himself, role claims, and still gets lynched. There are no votes moving off of ON at this time. He flips Town.
MZ figures that rayne must be lying after rayne claims to have nuked him. This is where the doubt on rayne comes from.
I show up and I'm already looking at how the lynch played out. I already note how its going down. I get to MZ's post about rayne, who was instrumental to turning around the DI lynch.
Why would I call out anyone else but rayne? Logically, think about this. I think you seriously are lost because if you can't tell what my opinion on rayne is right now this is pointless. So you believe rayn is lying about his "big play"? Do you mean he's scum and launched the nuke after all? If you believe him on that point (which seems a pretty obvious thing to do IMO), you have no other decent reason to continue. He was just one of many who helped changing the lynch around, and unless DI flips red, it doesn't even prove anything at all. Yes. I believe rayne is scum not only for nuking MZ, but the DI lynch. I'm taking them both together. When geript asked me earlier about why I didn't include him as a suspect this was the same reasoning. Don't think I'm ignoring the entire wagon, I'm just only speaking on rayne right now because it makes no sense to put suspicion on everyone. It won't accomplish anything right now. Can you then point out what makes you think Rayn nuked? I wrote a big post explaining why I think Rayn didn't nuke, what makes my analysis wrong? I think he nuked because I dont think he is dumb enough to nuke MZ just like that as Town. MZ was the one who called him out for lying and I don't think he expected that to happen. All of a sudden it is some big plan he had all along? regarding your post, I don't think he would have launched a nuke at Xata. He had no good reason for doing so. The first person he really went hard on was Chezinu, which would have made the most sense to nuke. Not sending a nuke at the guy he is calling for to be nuked makes no sense here. If he is fake claiming the nuke on MZ it does not add up. It still does not explain why he would just not have nuked Chezinu, and why he would even own up to that nuke in the first place. We don't know who the nuke came from and once MZ caught him in a lie he was stuck. The first point is that if he had a nuke, that post would have lauched it. Forget about reasonings, look at Chez and johnny lauching their nukes. They type ##Nuke: [insert target here] and the nuke is lauched. If Rayn had a nuke, why wouldn't his post have lauched the nuke? Did you even read my post and think about it? If Rayn had a fucking nuke it would have been launched at Xata early D1! That is why couldn't have a nuke at Meapak!
If this is really what Jampidampi think, wtf is the above post? It says nothing about Jampidampi thinking all nukes are launched bhy thread.
There is a contradiction in his thought process which i would like him to explain.
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On July 10 2013 05:46 MajuGarzett wrote:
I would also be down for a lynch on VA for the reasons I gave earlier as well austin's case. I don't suspect FirmToufu so that's not a problem for me. FirmTofu may have been against DI's lynch but that lynch did move pretty fast so I think that action is caution rather than trying to save his scum buddy. FT has also done a good amount of analysis.
Rayn asked me for some specific reads so here:
WoS nuke redirect I don't find scummy because if he was scum the only reason for a redirect would be to gain credit which could only be done by redirecting the nuke to scum.Also, I really doubt that he would save a scum buddy like that as if one of them dies the other is sure to be caught. WoS was also accepted that Rayn's nuke claim didn't make sense for scum quite early. I think if WoS was scum he would have tried to pressure Rayn a bit more. So WoS is probably town.
MZ is town, I don't have any evidence to the contrary and neither does anyone else I've seen.
I still suspect Onegu. Looking at his filter the only read he's given is repeating Xata is 100% town. He's said this 3 times so far and uses it as an excuse to sheep.
Rayn's claim doesn't make sense for scum so I don't suspect him.
Best lynch targets are VA, Onegu, and DI. Maju, pretend you work in a nuke factory.
Who do you give your first nuke to, someone who is townie and you trust to do townie stuff with it?
Who would you give a nuke to if you want it in townie hands, but want to shake up the thread, have them do something odd with it that might spark discussion/hit scum with a longshot?
Who would you nuke with a nuke that just causes the person to post all their thoughts?
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On July 10 2013 05:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 10 2013 05:24 Xatalos wrote:On July 10 2013 05:23 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 10 2013 05:22 Xatalos wrote:
I think someone quoted a post from Dandel Ion at a ScumQT thread... Something like this: "I have no motivation to play as scum. Just bus me. I will be lynched, it's inevitable." That's what your attitude is emanating right now. yeah i might've said that (or something close to it anyways). So you admit to being scum? Or? No? I'm saying that I have probably said "something like this" in the past. But you admitted that you feel (or at least felt before - what about these days?) unmotivated as scum. Logical conclusion: You feel unmotivated as scum. You are usually active and involved as town. You've clearly felt unmotivated this game (the difference to PTP is crystal clear). -> You are probably scum. I think that's a reasonable deduction.
I know it's "reasonable" but that doesn't make it correct.
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On July 10 2013 05:50 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:45 Alakaslam wrote:On July 10 2013 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response) He is trying to bury important things, of course.... Dang everyone read pages 72-75, and then 87-90, at the least. Better to read 72-89, but that is a helluva lot. Onegu, just no. This is helpful. EBWOP. Cut out some unimportant for the time-pressed. Anyone have early page suggestions? [image blocked] Why not point out something interesting about those pages rather than spamming the page numbers? What you're doing helps nobody and achieves nothing.
On July 10 2013 05:50 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:45 Alakaslam wrote:On July 10 2013 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:On July 10 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Don't feed the troll (he says, despite posting a response) He is trying to bury important things, of course.... Dang everyone read pages 72-75, and then 87-90, at the least. Better to read 72-89, but that is a helluva lot. Onegu, just no. This is helpful. EBWOP. Cut out some unimportant for the time-pressed. Anyone have early page suggestions? I will admit that I have a hard time figuring out if you're actually getting at something in particular or no. You find these pages, and the page sets you've referenced earlier, to be important because of specific posts or specific things that happen? Like...it would be helpful if you either got to where you're trying to go, or possibly changed tracks and got somewhere in general. I just can't tell what you're trying to do fully. As best I can tell, but don't know explicit page numbers, good spots to look are where ACTION took place. Chez's nuke and the following calls for him to be nuked or not. Redirects/saves/claims concerning those. People's reasons for hopping on the ON wagon/off the ON wagon.
Those pages are where the rayn ploy happened, and the info that came from it. Did you two find that unimportant?
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Dandel you're really not helping your cause lol. Looking more and more scummy by the post
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I think those pages are somewhat important. But I don't think it's helpful to note that they exist.
It's like posting that there are scum in this game and we should find them. It's true, but we know that. If there's something specific that you want to get into within those pages, bring it up. If there's someone who addressed those pages in a weird way or not at all, and you want to point that out, bring it up. But just noting that those pages exist and are important doesn't really affect the thread.
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He has been banned
TL.net Bot TL.net. July 10 2013 05:54. Posts 3 Gift TL+ PM Profile Quote #
Dandel Ion was just temp banned for 1 week by micronesia.
That account was created on 2010-11-19 08:55:43 and had 6697 posts.
Reason: Stop shitting up mafia
What are the ramifications of that?!?
Sorry for my bbcode error...
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