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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Dandel, who is usually as town the most disruptive person (besides Oats) in thread tried a new scum-strategy? That's what you are trying to sell us? Read your post again slowly. I'll let you figure it out. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:53 austinmcc wrote: I need to wait for contribution in some cases because it's the answer/thought process itself that's more important to me than anything else someone has posted. Or, at least, that's the case with Onegu. Also, yes. My play so far has been lazy/reactive. But as of right now, I'm doing what I'm doing. Also also, if you don't die, I have determined that you are town. Huzzah! That warms my heart. If you're actually town after all, that is. Right now I'm finding that a bit hard to believe with your uncharacteristically reactionary and passive playstyle. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Read your post again slowly. I'll let you figure it out. No, you answer it. Are you seriously saying Dandel's answer in a large game like this as mafia is that he is going to be even more lurky / aphatic (as you put it) than usually as mafia, when it's really easy to mimic his town play as there is a lot of shit going on at every moment? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: As austin's scumbuddy in PTP I can't get behind his lynch today. There are just too many differences. He's not as evasive as he was in PTP and he's been a lot more active. I very carefully watched his play in PTP and I just don't see enough similarities here. Dandel on the other hand is trying to skate in a large game. I recall him being a lot more active and spammy when he's town. He's usually making reads and participating but instead this game I feel like he's trying to see how long he can lurk. This is not town Dandel and I feel that it is a much better lynch than austin. My brother nuke-target has abandoned me  It's no wonder if austinmcc is more active now, since he was AFK for quite some times in PTP (I think?). Also it's not impossible to act a bit differently otherwise, just to make it harder to read you for example. Lynching Dandel Ion based on being completely AFK feels... Random, I guess. He might flip scum, he might flip town, but there's no real way to say for good certainty which it's going to be. I agree that his AFK-fest points to scum rather than town, but I also wonder if he would really be so stupid to sacrifice any chance to survive until endgame like this (if he keeps up this level of activity). | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, you answer it. Are you seriously saying Dandel's answer in a large game like this as mafia is that he is going to be even more lurky / aphatic (as you put it) than usually as mafia, when it's really easy to mimic his town play as there is a lot of shit going on at every moment? ![[image loading]](https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2727748211/c3d0981ae770f926eedf4eda7505b006.jpeg) I literally have no idea what you're trying to say. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
To the extent you're arguing that DI began the game with faux-trolliness (which is how I read your take on DI's early posts), he's saying if DI is going to fake his town game, he would also be faking trolly/disruptive posts throughout D1. As in, "If this were scumDI, putting on a troll show for his natural town predators who would want to lynch not-trolly DI, then why isn't scumDI continuing to be trolly, when it would be so easy?" I think. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:06 Xatalos wrote: My brother nuke-target has abandoned me It's no wonder if austinmcc is more active now, since he was AFK for quite some times in PTP (I think?). Also it's not impossible to act a bit differently otherwise, just to make it harder to read you for example. Lynching Dandel Ion based on being completely AFK feels... Random, I guess. He might flip scum, he might flip town, but there's no real way to say for good certainty which it's going to be. I agree that his AFK-fest points to scum rather than town, but I also wonder if he would really be so stupid to sacrifice any chance to survive until endgame like this (if he keeps up this level of activity). Sorry! We may just have to disagree on this one, I just don't get the scum feel from austin right now. As for Dandel, his behavior is far from his town behavior and I feel like his afk-ness is a gambit to try and escape the first day without being noticed. It's a large game so I think he rolled the dice on that one. Unless he comes back with good reads and a compelling reason for being gone I like him for a lynch. By good reads I mean I'm not going to be content with a "hey guys catching up now" post and no follow up. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
We are lynching into Chez/NG/WoS/ON/Maju today. That's my preferred order of their scumminess. Chez & NG are like totally scum. I'm off to bed. kthxbye. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:12 austinmcc wrote: MZ, he thinks that DI is usually spammy/disruptive/doing whatever in his town games. To the extent you're arguing that DI began the game with faux-trolliness (which is how I read your take on DI's early posts), he's saying if DI is going to fake his town game, he would also be faking trolly/disruptive posts throughout D1. As in, "If this were scumDI, putting on a troll show for his natural town predators who would want to lynch not-trolly DI, then why isn't scumDI continuing to be trolly, when it would be so easy?" I think. Well if you're right then he's dumb. I am arguing that Dandel is usually active and yes spammy throughout the whole day. Instead he's been lurky and inactive. I'm not trying to kill him for his early activity, I was fine with that, it's his current lack of activity that has me suspicious. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Whatever. You can't lynch Dandel either way. We are lynching into Chez/NG/WoS/ON/Maju today. That's my preferred order of their scumminess. Chez & NG are like totally scum. I'm off to bed. kthxbye. k chez is not getting lynched, NG would be ok, WoS is not getting lynched, ON is not getting lynched, Maju would be ok. And yeah, I can lynch Dandel and I will if he doesn't haul his ass in here and start looking protown as fuck. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Going to sleep now though. geript/rayn, your thoughts on austin btw? | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much. On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote: Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian... filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town. When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that. If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts. I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts. I agree with the suspicion about Onegu. On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote: Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around. The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame. The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either. ##VOTE: Chezinu Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon. On July 08 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote: Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet. And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff ##Vote: Onegu Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
Onegu, yes you make a good point. But meta is meta, last game I was an ill- playing blue role, here I am just vanilla, with the added benefit of a little experience. So less worried about getting Lynched, and remembering the words of Hapa. So I retract my old statements on WoS, I rebuild the alliance, but note that I still ally with Ace. Reason being is I believe ace to be helping town in a genuine way, rather than in the ways I can see scum doing, and he is still doing better than WoS. Disclaimer, however: I suspect ace is capable of anything, and besides I should be taken with a grain of salt, considering how little I know I this game. That being said, as Onegu points out I have no excuse to lurk and yet posting unsubstantial fluff is something I have found to be nigh useless, if not detrimental to my fellow town. Geript, my ally: what thinks ye of Ace? You know far more about this great one than I. + Show Spoiler + Я знаю, что смешнее, когда я теряю голову, но я оставлю это на новых игроков, как игра была сделана пылающей рукой. Так что я буду стараться быть спокойнее, и более полезными должна я в последний раз. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
So, moving on, I retract my old statements on WoS... | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:24 austinmcc wrote: All you said previously was:MZ, can you be slightly more in-depth on your ON read, including, but not limited to, whether you guys still agree on things? On July 08 2013 03:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: OriginalName: This one’s making a lot of sense/agreeing with me on the right things. Verdict: Probably Town | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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