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On July 01 2013 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
There's some way left to win, or game would have been over when DI got shot or WoS sacced himself.
It most likely means Xfire is town after all.
Again, let me remind you scum Xfire has:
-Bus driver
-NRA Member (kills whoever visits him)
-TARDIS (or kita has it)
-Vet
If he's scum, then it's easy: Scum shoot you/me, Xfire uses the Tazer (NRA member), and scum use TARDIS to bus kita with Xfire.
BC will RB kita, but visit Xfire, and die, then austin/I dies, and we get to 1v2 GG D3. Nobody else can do much to stop that, and even if we do it's still 2v2 on D2, or Xfire can use his bus driver shit (on TOP of the TARDIS bus drive shit) to bus even more shit.
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Xfire, choose option 2 tonight if you can get the item instantly tonight, otherwise choose option 1
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 30 2013 08:20 gonzaw wrote:
I kind of wonder how I wasn't FOSED for saying that sk8 lied about my role when the hosts apparently said he didn't lol (sk8 said he made me a veteran lookout or some shit who gets info about roles)
FOS gonzaw
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On July 01 2013 02:40 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 08:20 gonzaw wrote:
I kind of wonder how I wasn't FOSED for saying that sk8 lied about my role when the hosts apparently said he didn't lol (sk8 said he made me a veteran lookout or some shit who gets info about roles) FOS gonzaw
oh noes you caught me
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On July 01 2013 02:01 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
There's some way left to win, or game would have been over when DI got shot or WoS sacced himself. It most likely means Xfire is town after all. Again, let me remind you scum Xfire has: -Bus driver -NRA Member (kills whoever visits him) -TARDIS (or kita has it) -Vet If he's scum, then it's easy: Scum shoot you/me, Xfire uses the Tazer (NRA member), and scum use TARDIS to bus kita with Xfire. BC will RB kita, but visit Xfire, and die, then austin/I dies, and we get to 1v2 GG D3. Nobody else can do much to stop that, and even if we do it's still 2v2 on D2, or Xfire can use his bus driver shit (on TOP of the TARDIS bus drive shit) to bus even more shit. Except that he doesn't know if he gets shot tonight by someone I give vigi to. He doesn't know if he shoots someone protected by someone I give medic to. He doesn't know in what order RB/busses/actions resolve (I checked, not being revealed).
It's also possible you don't have full information.
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Xfire, if you get your ability from austin, this is how we communicate:
This is a mapping between the events and Medic/Vig (or medic and whatever Dandel chose):
Event A - Medic
Event B - Vig
Event C - Medic
Event D - Vig
Event E - Medic
Then you use N#x to determine the Event that maps to your ability (choose any of the events that map to it as random)
For instance, N#D
Here are some strategies I can think using them:
If you get the ability represented by N#C:
I'd suggest using that ability on N#B
Then use this item: I#C - N#D - N#B
If you get the other ability:
Hmm, then there are a couple of options:
1)Use ability on N#E and item I#C - N#E - N#B
2)Use ability on N#B and item I#D - N#B - N#E
3)Use ability on N#B and item I#A - N#E - N#C
What do you think Xfire?
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On July 01 2013 03:05 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 02:01 gonzaw wrote:On July 01 2013 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
There's some way left to win, or game would have been over when DI got shot or WoS sacced himself. It most likely means Xfire is town after all. Again, let me remind you scum Xfire has: -Bus driver -NRA Member (kills whoever visits him) -TARDIS (or kita has it) -Vet If he's scum, then it's easy: Scum shoot you/me, Xfire uses the Tazer (NRA member), and scum use TARDIS to bus kita with Xfire. BC will RB kita, but visit Xfire, and die, then austin/I dies, and we get to 1v2 GG D3. Nobody else can do much to stop that, and even if we do it's still 2v2 on D2, or Xfire can use his bus driver shit (on TOP of the TARDIS bus drive shit) to bus even more shit. Except that he doesn't know if he gets shot tonight by someone I give vigi to. He doesn't know if he shoots someone protected by someone I give medic to. He doesn't know in what order RB/busses/actions resolve (I checked, not being revealed). It's also possible you don't have full information.
Well I dunno ask the hosts yourself why the game hasn't ended yet if Xfire is scum.
Yeah, well you can only give ME the vig to have a slight chance to survive if Xfire is scum, since the other guy you can give it to is Xfire lolol. In that case.....convince me to shoot him then I guess?
I don't really get this....are you two thinking both are town or something? Like Xfire seems like thinking austin may be town, and you don't think of Xfire as "confirmed scum" either?
I guess an option is austin being 3P with scum only being kita+geript+MZ, that's the ONLY way one of you two is not a super scummy scummer
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Hmm, actually Xfire I think it'd be better for it to be:
N#E then I#C - N#D - N#B
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Is factional KP carried out as a team, or by a single member?
I.e if there are 2 scum, and 1 is RBed, is the factional KP still going through, or not if the RBed scum was carrying it?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
It's like like BC is going to block a scum buddy so who cares.
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Austin, stop having cold feet. You're making me think that you're scum. Give me an ability.
gonzaw i'm back. I chose the option that included the word "where". Whether or not I got an item only you know, but let's use the designator I#F for the item I may or may not have gotten.
Also I think you messed up the quote for item E. It should be "wait" not "way". Otherwise I think I understand everything (hopefully lol).
If I got everything correctly, I think we should do this.
Ability N#C:
Either N#B like you said or N#E.
Other Ability:
N#A or N#C
My items:
I#A - N#A - N#B
I#A - N#C - N#E
I#B - N#C - N#D
I#C - N#E - N#A
I#C - N#C - N#B
I don't want to use item D.
I#E - N#A - N#D
I#F - N#B - N#A
Those are the options i'm thinking of. What do you think?
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I forgot to say the order of my preference is Item F, B, A, C, E
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Oh, I think I also figured out how Kita as scum could have figured out about the TARDIS. So kita masoned solstice day 1, solstice was given the TARDIS by sk8r, solstice told kita this, kita then killed solstice to try get the TARDIS randomly when solstice died.
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Again, I CANNOT GIVE YOU AN ABILITY. NOR WOULD I.
#1 - You're apparently an NRA member. NOBODY should be saying "Hey austin, target crossfire, the NRA member, to give him an ability."
#2 - Again, even if you WEREN'T an NRA member, I cannot give you a power. That is not an option for me tonight.
#3 - Even if you WEREN'T an NRA member, AND were an option for my power tonight, it is too late.
#4 - Even if you WEREN'T an NRA member, AND were an option for my power tonight, AND it was early enough in the night phase that I can assign powers, then I still wouldn't give you anything, because I don't see gonzaw or BC being mafia.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On July 01 2013 03:54 Crossfire99 wrote:
Oh, I think I also figured out how Kita as scum could have figured out about the TARDIS. So kita masoned solstice day 1, solstice was given the TARDIS by sk8r, solstice told kita this, kita then killed solstice to try get the TARDIS randomly when solstice died.
solstice couldn't have obtained the TARDIS until night 1 (he was dead by then). Pretty sure this was already pointed out at some point in the thread.
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How would you know "where" isn't in the other option as well? 
You are lucky since it's not!
On July 01 2013 03:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Also I think you messed up the quote for item E. It should be "wait" not "way". Otherwise I think I understand everything (hopefully lol).
It should be "way before", unless deconduo fucked up the PM
Here's another one:
"you look" 2
Based on your choices this should give the correct event as well
Wait a minute I'll check those strategies you mentioned
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
austin, give me a power instead!
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So you got the Item #F instantly? You already have it?
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On July 01 2013 03:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Ability N#C:
Either N#B like you said or N#E.
Other Ability:
N#A or N#C
I'm not sure I understand some of these. Do you think of using them standalone or in conjuction with another item in special?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Let me simplify things for you:
![[image loading]](http://www.niemanlab.org/images/math-formula-chalkboard.jpg)
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