EPTNot like he was all OMGWTFBBQ about it he just put him at null, which is a rather decent place to have BC at imo.
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Dandel Ion
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Not like he was all OMGWTFBBQ about it he just put him at null, which is a rather decent place to have BC at imo. | ||
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Xatalos
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On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote: Why'd everybody go quiet? Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems: Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die. HUH? If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw. Next: If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!! More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town). Onwards and upwards! We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART! Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them. Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case. In closing: lets kill Xatalos Haha... What the heck? That came out of nowhere. I hadn't really noticed s0Lstice until Gonzaw made a case on him. That really triggered me to look at his actions, and they were scummy. He had piled dirt on me early on and done absolutely nothing about it. It felt like he had just hoped for it to stick and when it didn't, it was conveniently forgotten. He constantly side-stepped pressure and questions, didn't really participate in any meaningful activity in the thread and was overall a vague and unimpactful poster. All this just screams scum. I'd definitely lynch him again (or yeah, it was a Vig-shot, but same end result anyway) if I went back to the end of D1. How has my stance on WOS been "inconsistent"? It went from weakly scummy to quite scummy and hasn't changed from that. I had a moment of doubt when I started pushing s0Lstice, since there were a couple of townish posts in WOS's filter and he joined me so easily to get s0Lstice lynched. I was pretty convinced s0Lstice was scum, so I didn't think WOS would bus so eagerly and before more significant pressure had yet to form on s0Lstice. So yeah, there was one point in time where I thought that maybe, just maybe he was town after all? There's a clear logic to that though, nothing like how you portray my stance in your case. "Damn inconsistent" ROFL. What? And even funnier is this earlier part "not taking a stance on ANYTHING". You can't be serious right? That fits you much better with your wishy-washy suspicions during D1. Look at my post history if you wonder about my public thought process posts. That's a normal part of my town play. Especially in one newbie game (forgot the name) I had like a 20-page filter full of my thoughts. As scum I'm much more careful and prefer to post neat lists of my stances. Ok, maybe that BC thing is taken a bit out of context. But it's pretty weird that he's so lenient towards austinmcc and so unforgiving towards sk8r when, ultimately, it's about the same thing: confirmation through power usage. I fail to see how sk8r's use of his ability isn't townish at all while austinmcc's ability usage is incredibly townish.. Mind you, WOS *is* in a hurry to start posting. I was just going to post that anyway after seeing his lame response. I'm steadily losing any doubts about him being scum, especially considering his really easy jump on s0Lstice (and the meta-reason he used for that didn't appear until AFTER he had already voted!! - so it was just a justification, not the real reason). I don't think he can change my mind before deadline anyway though, especially since he's apparently not going to post until D2, which is too bad.. For him. | ||
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Barbiero
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Acrofales
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Let me put it this way: I can see why he wasn't lynched in Dessert, and it's largely because he is not doing anything dumb like posting waffly crap about how Kurumi is 100% town or 100% scum (like he did in this game). | ||
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Acrofales
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Crisis averted. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On June 24 2013 19:54 Xatalos wrote: LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness  Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.Different line of thinking completely. -_- what role someone has does not equal alignment. It is also not in a scums best interests to publically claim they are performing a role on a player. Why? Because it opens them up to watchers, trackers, etc.... Being insanely free with information and publically announcing you are doing something is a good alignment indicator. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 25 2013 02:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Different line of thinking completely. -_- what role someone has does not equal alignment. It is also not in a scums best interests to publically claim they are performing a role on a player. Why? Because it opens them up to watchers, trackers, etc.... Being insanely free with information and publically announcing you are doing something is a good alignment indicator. if they actually use those actions, they don't give a shit about watchers etc. Soooo... | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On June 25 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote: if they actually use those actions, they don't give a shit about watchers etc. Soooo... Eh? Why? He publically claimed an action. IF dt roles check him they can quickly figure out if hes bullshitting. Rolecops would find out if he can do even what hes suggesting, trackers would know if he wandered around to the right spot, watchers would know if he even left, etc... It also actively puts peoples eyes on him. Why? Because if I end up dead he will be one of the first people everyone goes after for my dead because he openly stated he was using a role on me. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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The reason i view sk8s ability use as not townlike is this. He has actively had posts that are heavily heavily anti town. He actively admitted to trolling, and lying about reads. Denying to give his reads when he could have died as it "was people fishing" He then near instantly starts claiming my shot was fake and proceeds to toss suspicion on me for it when he would know his power was responsible for him not dying. Given the fact he openly admitted to wanting to get shot, and has been behaving overall as someone attempting to take a vig bullet, I would put him down as a scum read. Just because he has a self defense power and that he came out and admitted it WELL AFTER a situation while using the role as a reason to call bullshit and clutter the thread even more. Kita and Meapak both need to post more. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On June 25 2013 01:46 Acrofales wrote: Okay. Homicidal urge is under control again. Lets go back to killing MZ, SnB and austin. Crisis averted. What... That was really fast. Care to explain how I went from clear scum to townish in a matter of 30min or something? Apparently you read through my previous games. Why did you do that AFTER making your case, not before you met resistance in the form of DI and myself? Sadly it looks like justification to abandon the failed bandwagon... Meaning you appear in a more scummy light based on these recent posts. Also, what exactly about my defense "averted the crisis" (excluding you checking up my posting history)? This is just a very strange chain of events and I want to hear your reasoning. Ugh, I hope I don't have to drop you as well from my townreads.. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Xatalos
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On June 25 2013 02:44 Dandel Ion wrote: I can be very persuasive. Lol, apparently. Is your role perhaps "case destroyer"?  | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On June 25 2013 02:29 Dandel Ion wrote: So do you have opinions on people not-sk8er yet or do we have to wait a couple more days for those? I have to filter the entire list that voted for austin last minute. Why? Because the entire wagon is scummy as hell in its conception. You are high on my list of potential scum for being disruptive and trolly. You do have some moments of "im glad he said that" sort of bit but you have a ton of stuff I don't like. However nothing really has changed with any of these reads http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=29#571 I also need to re-read carefully all the stuff surrounding s0lstice. As that entire situation was clearly what the fuck as well. | ||
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