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On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote: WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.
SERIOUSLY. because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. Are you referring to this post? Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this.
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EBWOP Are you referring to this post?
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kitaman27
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On June 14 2013 02:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: EBWOP Are you referring to this post?
On June 12 2013 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 03:37 kitaman27 wrote:On June 12 2013 03:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 11 2013 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:On June 11 2013 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I died in smurf mini, the amount of effort I dedicate to this game is now 33%, up from 25%. Scum team? Do you still have a mafia read on Vayne? Ace Vayne ____ don't know my third pick yet prpl claims roleblock on Vivax. Vayne claims medic on Wave. Are you saying that mafia shot into the player they were protecting or that they double stacked last night? How wouldn't Vivax be scum if you have a mafia read on Vayne? Yeah I guess that would make sense. Maybe target #2 was a vet? Although none have come forward so maybe Vivax is scum after all... vet hasn't claimed yet has he?
I'm referring to this post. Nothing really for you to add though.
Do you think I could be scum?
On June 14 2013 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Kita did you read my dive into Vivax? You really think the scumteam has been going all out to save Sentinel of all people?
I think Ace claimed to preserve the second mafia kp, which makes the most sense if sent is scum. Suppose you are the mafia cop Vivax with Sent, Sent gets roleblocked and there is a missing kp, do you think trying to go 8v1 is the easier option?
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Who was vet that night? We should have waited for the vet claim last like layabout originally said (but also said it didn't matter) because if Vivax/Sent were scum they'd have no way of knowing if his target was a vet or protected and they might have fucked up.
Interesting here actually because neither of them posted until well after Stutters' vet claim.
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LoL that's what happens when I half-write stuff and then instead of being lazy I actually re-read the thread. Yes, Stutters was vet.
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kitaman27
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Ace was vet that night. The question I had was whether or not we thought a scum Sent was pretending not to know Ace's role or that he actually wasn't reading the thread.
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Oh I think I was referring to last night? I have no idea what the fuck I just did. Anyway the point I made still stands...in future I think we have to claim in that order.
Kita I don't think Sent read the thread either way honestly. What benefit is there as scum to lying about knowing a teammate's role?
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Yeah I was skimming the thread that day.
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Ok so looks like people so a far are on Vivax. I have been meaning to take a look at his so ill do a bit of filter diving. Reading over this filter I didnt find anything particularly damning. The one time i played with Vivax. I was fucking up as town day 1. He hard defended me because he recognized that the way i was playing was my town meta day 1. Being overly spammy and not having much to post lol. This game he also defended me after i was put under a bit of pressure day 1. I know its not much to go for but I don't see much in his filter that makes me think scum. Can someone write up a case? I know there was the roleblock thing But it's also likely that it was a doc save. Also scum could fuck with the blue roles to implicate people.
Sent has a 1 in 6 chance (I believe) to roll miller. So its not completly out of the question that he is the godfather.
I personally still like a sent lynch. Even given that he got checked as green Its not out of the question that he could get godfather. Also the fact that he got roleblocked and no shot was taken implicates him as well. Seeing as how last time Wos was saved my doc (This is assuming Vivax isnt scum) Then wouldnt the scum try to play it safe? I dont see why they would aim for someone like kita who is a vet and has a pretty good chance to get protected.
Here are some reasons I think Sent is scum.
Ok first off and a big reason I see him as scummy The hard defending of ace and the switch after.
On June 05 2013 21:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:What do you all think of Oats? He's been tunneling Ace on the following evidence:
Defending ace
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: OK first off the Vayne vote was a joke. That much should be obvious.
I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing.
So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum.
[##Unvote] [##Vote Oatsmaster]
On June 06 2013 10:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Okay.
I'd like to lynch Oats. However I too shall look into prplhz, Vayne and jay and determine what I think of them.
Guilty until proven flammable? Again defending Ace
On June 06 2013 18:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oats it wasn't a scumslip, you realize I was talking about "looking scummy", not "being scummy"?
I had a problem changing my vote because I thought someone could make a case for me being scum either way. If I switched and rayn flipped red, it would look to potential accusers like I was bussing him. If I didn't, it would look to them like I was potentially ignoring him.
Stop grasping at straws that don't exist (*hem* Ace *hem*)
Ots pls
THEN there is this little gem. A complete turn around from calling Ace town town town. And calling Oats scum scum scum. He does a complete flip. Just because Vayne and prplhz voting for Oats and because they defending ace. Note that I think that because Sent saw the writing on the wall of Ace getting lynched later that he tried to bus early to get town cred. His complete flip based on prplhz and Vayne being scum wasnt even note worthy. Notice that he doesn't even really keep those scum reads. he doesnt really push anyone of them later.
On June 07 2013 18:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Vayne and prplhz voted for Oats and defending Ace on little evidence despite public opinion, are we having a repeat of the rayn lynch? Can we be right twice?
##unvote ##vote: ace
Here is a part that people seem to have forgotten. Here Oats is jumping on what he thinks is a scum slip by Oats. Oats brushes it off saying he knew that rayn was scum. But his posting doesn't show that. He only voted Rayn after the wagon picked up. His vote wasn't even necessary
On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote: No. Sent. The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red. There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head. Thats where you scumslipped.
On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not.
This little bit when he calls his own post scummy. He has not confidence in his posting or thread presence to solidify himself as a town read. So he votes calling his own post scummy because he doesn't even try to put any reasons for his vote on rayn
On June 06 2013 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Whether or not I sheep rayne my vote will look scummy.
Going with my gut I guess.
##unvote ##vote: raynpelikoneet
This was special. Analyzing an anonymous poll. Talk about reaching for fluff content.
On June 10 2013 04:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So the poll is anonymous so I'm guessing the scummers could be honest with their intentions. They'd be fools not to since they can vote for the situation that favors them and nobody would know who voted for wat. Ergo, if he was scum they would label him town and if he was town they'd vote for the lynch.
Without shakalaka's vote (assuming he voted), we have 7-4 in favor of a lynch.
If Ace is town, the three scummers would vote to lynch him and buy an extra day. This would mean 4 towns voted for each scenario. Seems about probable, and scum could swing the wagon to their favored outcome.
If Ace is scum, the three scummers (including Ace) would vote against the lynch. This would mean 7 towns want Ace dead, and only one townie threw his lot in with the scum by some happenstance. This near-unanimous effort by town to lynch him would be less probable - but there is also the guy in IRC who asked Shakalaka to come in and vote for the town option. It would make sense that scum, seeing that despite all their efforts their man is going to get lynched, ask another guy to put some more weight on the town option.
Intredasting.
Even now Sent doesnt push any of his scum reads. He just sits there adding no content. Giving his posting and some things i pointed out. I think he is scum that got lucky with the miller role.
##Vote Sent
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Kite wave what are you guys thoughts on Scum sent Unrelated Tooting my own horn + Show Spoiler + i hit gold in lol yaya :3
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kitaman27
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Congrats :D
I was in the lol liquid chatroom and saw you, me, and Wave all join within like two minutes and started wondering if I had missed the memo about our scum meeting :p
I'm hesitant to lynch Sent before Vivax due to the claim. If it turns out Vivax is telling the truth, then its something to consider if the cop checks starting piling up on players making more people innocent than it makes sense.
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On June 14 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: Congrats :D
I was in the lol liquid chatroom and saw you, me, and Wave all join within like two minutes and started wondering if I had missed the memo about our scum meeting :p
I'm hesitant to lynch Sent before Vivax due to the claim. If it turns out Vivax is telling the truth, then its something to consider if the cop checks starting piling up on players making more people innocent than it makes sense. What do you think of the possibility of Sent just rolling Miller. It would be pretty convenient. But 1 out of 6 isn't that big of a chance. I just can't see him as town.
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Also what's your ign i didn't know you played lol :D
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kitaman27
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On June 14 2013 04:24 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: Congrats :D
I was in the lol liquid chatroom and saw you, me, and Wave all join within like two minutes and started wondering if I had missed the memo about our scum meeting :p
I'm hesitant to lynch Sent before Vivax due to the claim. If it turns out Vivax is telling the truth, then its something to consider if the cop checks starting piling up on players making more people innocent than it makes sense. What do you think of the possibility of Sent just rolling Miller. It would be pretty convenient. But 1 out of 6 isn't that big of a chance. I just can't see him as town.
Mafia miller sent and town vivax is small enough of a chance that I'd rather deal with the 2nd mafia member first.
On June 14 2013 04:25 jaybrundage wrote: Also what's your ign i didn't know you played lol :D
Same as TL. :p
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On June 14 2013 04:24 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: Congrats :D
I was in the lol liquid chatroom and saw you, me, and Wave all join within like two minutes and started wondering if I had missed the memo about our scum meeting :p
I'm hesitant to lynch Sent before Vivax due to the claim. If it turns out Vivax is telling the truth, then its something to consider if the cop checks starting piling up on players making more people innocent than it makes sense. What do you think of the possibility of Sent just rolling Miller. It would be pretty convenient. But 1 out of 6 isn't that big of a chance. I just can't see him as town. 1 out of 10? There are 10 people to assign roles to.
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His complete flip based on prplhz and Vayne being scum wasnt even note worthy. Notice that he doesn't even really keep those scum reads. he doesnt really push anyone of them later.
Made me chuckle, I've been tunneling one of those two all game.
Speaking of which I forgot to vote
##Vote: VayneAuthority
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On June 14 2013 04:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +His complete flip based on prplhz and Vayne being scum wasnt even note worthy. Notice that he doesn't even really keep those scum reads. he doesnt really push anyone of them later. Made me chuckle, I've been tunneling one of those two all game. Speaking of which I forgot to vote ##Vote: VayneAuthority Plz humor me and write a case.
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On June 14 2013 04:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:24 jaybrundage wrote:On June 14 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: Congrats :D
I was in the lol liquid chatroom and saw you, me, and Wave all join within like two minutes and started wondering if I had missed the memo about our scum meeting :p
I'm hesitant to lynch Sent before Vivax due to the claim. If it turns out Vivax is telling the truth, then its something to consider if the cop checks starting piling up on players making more people innocent than it makes sense. What do you think of the possibility of Sent just rolling Miller. It would be pretty convenient. But 1 out of 6 isn't that big of a chance. I just can't see him as town. 1 out of 10? There are 10 people to assign roles to. Considering that there are 4 other power roles. 6 normal townies left 1 miller between 6 townies.
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On June 14 2013 05:18 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:His complete flip based on prplhz and Vayne being scum wasnt even note worthy. Notice that he doesn't even really keep those scum reads. he doesnt really push anyone of them later. Made me chuckle, I've been tunneling one of those two all game. Speaking of which I forgot to vote ##Vote: VayneAuthority Plz humor me and write a case.
Nothing I haven't said already.
I see a lot of your case on me comes from JJD's case.
On June 14 2013 05:20 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 14 2013 04:24 jaybrundage wrote:On June 14 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: Congrats :D
I was in the lol liquid chatroom and saw you, me, and Wave all join within like two minutes and started wondering if I had missed the memo about our scum meeting :p
I'm hesitant to lynch Sent before Vivax due to the claim. If it turns out Vivax is telling the truth, then its something to consider if the cop checks starting piling up on players making more people innocent than it makes sense. What do you think of the possibility of Sent just rolling Miller. It would be pretty convenient. But 1 out of 6 isn't that big of a chance. I just can't see him as town. 1 out of 10? There are 10 people to assign roles to. Considering that there are 4 other power roles. 6 normal townies left 1 miller between 6 townies.
Alignment cop checks alignment. There are 10 players left. One is randomly selected to be miller, so you have 1 in 10 of miller, 1 in 10 of veteran, 1 in 10 of cop.. etc. and 5 in 10 of vanilla.
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On June 14 2013 04:25 jaybrundage wrote: Also what's your ign i didn't know you played lol :D We need to get some forum mafia LoL games going....I don't have time for lol lately though because baby and whatnot. I'll be in and out sporadically btw until later this evening if anyone has anything they want to ask/talk about.
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