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Vivax
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VayneAuthority
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 14 2013 23:11 kitaman27 wrote: Is there anyone who wants to convince me that prpl is a better lynch than Vivax? Those are really the only two I think we should consider today. If anything I would like to hear your case for prplhz. Why do you think he is scum. Why do you think Vivax is scum? I can see the roleblock being a possible reason but is that the only one why. I just think Sent has played a Whole lot scummier by comparison. Even with a green check I just dont see him being town. His play speaks louder then the check. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On June 15 2013 02:54 VayneAuthority wrote: If a town does get cop tonight I would highly look into stutters if vivax is town, he brings up valid points Nah | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Vivax (3): Stutters695, VayneAuthority, prplhz (1): Vivax [UoN]Sentinel (3): prplhz, jaybrundage, mkfuba07 VayneAuthority (1): [UoN]Sentinel Not Voting (2): WaveofShadow, layabout [UoN]Sentinel is set to be lynched! (tiebreakers) Deadline is in ~5 hours, at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
That analysis realy strikes a chord with me and tbh I'm pretty sure you removed all doubt from mind as to your alignment. Either that or you're experienced scum? I don't know your history on the forum so I don't really know that. Whatever if you are scum then gg. I realized just now I'm going to have to vote before the end of the day because I won't be around at deadline and my trouble is based on posting alone it doesn't seem to make sense that Vivax is scum. I know it's probably the more correct move to hit Vivax before Sent but lynching based on blue role stuff hasn't done us great thus far this game. I know what I did, and I RBed Sent last night, there was no NK. His posting has been worse than godawful for most of the game. I'm going to take a gamble here. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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kitaman27
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Vivax
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Also @Fuba plz do keep posting I like it when you post you seem to have good analysis. But if you dont post often enough its hard to distinguish if your town or scum. Keep up zee posting. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 15 2013 03:24 Vivax wrote: Can anyone not voting for stutters give me a quick rundown of reasons why they don't think he's scum? Because I think given sents play he has a bigger chance to flip scum. | ||
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Vivax
22426 Posts
On June 15 2013 03:28 jaybrundage wrote: Because I think given sents play he has a bigger chance to flip scum. You're putting your faith into 10 % , come lynch stutters instead. That guy skates by, his effort dropped off, he doesn't post analysis or reasoning. Everything that happened so far points to him being most likely scum. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On June 15 2013 02:34 Stutters695 wrote: Lynch vivax first. If he flips scum we know his claim is worthless and sent is probably scum. If he's town then we're looking at the odds of him getting gf compared to just scummy town play. It's not "just scummy town play" though. It's multiple instances of what I would consider significant scumslips (much like the one that we pinned rayn for). It's almost every dead townie having a scumread on him, and telling us to lynch him. Sure, they didn't have all of the information we do at the moment, but slOosh (who actually made the first case on rayn imo) was right about rayn (and died the first night), and oats was right about Ace (as well as being suspicious of sent), even though most of the people here thought there wasn't enough to go on. I wouldn't be surprised if zephirdd said something particularly key about the other members of the scumteam which got him killed early. It's the general scumminess the entire game, in addition to what I mentioned above and a slight bump from the fact that I consider roleblocking from a trusted source more likely to be successful than a doc save from a trusted source. Oh, and keep in mind that if we kill scum today, we're both more likely to get power roles (roleblocker, specifically) as well as roleblock the correct person to stop a NK. While I was willing before to go with either vivax or sentinel, this realization as well as my current read through the thread have made me more confident in my sent read, less confident in my vivax read, and more insistent upon which of these we lynch first. Some other slightly off-topic thoughts: + Show Spoiler + Something else I've been pondering is that Ace may have mentioned me as the only one confirmed town so that slOosh or WoS were "guaranteed" unprotected the first night. As I said, slOosh was confirmed town for me, since he brought up a legitimate scumslip on the scum power role. Scum would have been aware of this right when he first mentioned it. Ace certainly was, but he attributed it to me instead of slOosh. He tried to leave WoS out of it, but WoS brought himself back in. WoS as one of the drivers of the rayn wagon and a potential town leader would have been a good NK target, but it wasn't "safe" to shoot him after he asserted his town status. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 15 2013 03:27 kitaman27 wrote: Jay, why aren't you voting Vivax? I dived Vivax's filter and i didn't find anything that makes me think he has a better chance to flip scum then sent. Given his day 1 play. I had a town read on him. Afterwards his lack of posting kinda worried me. But recently he has picked up again. I see the point about him being roleblocked and the KP not showing up. But the doctor could also be the cause of that. I'm sure scum want to kill the people keeping this town active cause if they died we would be in for a rougher time. I think Sent has a more likely to flip scum given the way he has played to this point. So kita why are you voting Vivax? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 15 2013 03:32 jaybrundage wrote: I dived Vivax's filter and i didn't find anything that makes me think he has a better chance to flip scum then sent. Given his day 1 play. I had a town read on him. Afterwards his lack of posting kinda worried me. But recently he has picked up again. I see the point about him being roleblocked and the KP not showing up. But the doctor could also be the cause of that. I'm sure scum want to kill the people keeping this town active cause if they died we would be in for a rougher time. I think Sent has a more likely to flip scum given the way he has played to this point. So kita why are you voting Vivax? When Sent flips, we probably lynch Vivax/prpl, regardless if sent is town or mafia. Right now I'm looking at the scenarios where we lose at lylo and I think a Vivax lynch puts us in a better position. Vivax hasn't done anything for town outside of analyzing night actions involving himself to create possible mafia team scenarios. Knowing his alignment gives us the most information, plus we lynch a scummy player. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On June 15 2013 02:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I considered both, which is why, instead of voting for Ace or Oats depending on who I thought was more scummy, I decided to go with my primary scumread of Vayne. It's not what you did, since I assume you tried to consider all scenarios as either alignment. It's what you actually said. Just like oats pointed out before, you're posting from the perspective of someone who already knew who was going to flip what. Your comment about Ace, that he might be cop, isn't even something that townies were considering. Of course he's cop, he claimed it in a game where fakeclaims would instantly implicate you as scum. It's whether or not he was scum that we were thinking about. What at first appears to be an off the cuff comment about how unsure you are of which of the two should be lynched (as either alignment) actually shows you being concerned with something that no townie was actually concerned about. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
he says that vivax and sentinel can't be scum together but he is choosing to go against his own opinion and is voting for sent instead. I would much prefer that we kill prplhz today ##vote: prplhz | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Vivax
22426 Posts
On June 05 2013 06:23 Stutters695 wrote: Oh, one more thing Rayne, if he's trying to change his meta than he needs to be here and actively trying. Regardless of his alignment he appears disinterested and from my experiences he's not nearly as involved as scum as town. On June 05 2013 14:04 Stutters695 wrote: You could literally say that about 3/4 the thread. Why ace specifically? Also, where are you Ace? On June 06 2013 02:58 Stutters695 wrote: ##vote: raynpelikoneet PLEASE, go to stutters' filter, where the posts are located, read what stutters writes since his first post about Rayn, then look at what he's writing about ace, and last, check the timing of his vote. It reeks of scum play, I want to lynch stutters today. ##Unvote ##Vote stutters | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On June 15 2013 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Fuba I wish you posted more often. That analysis realy strikes a chord with me and tbh I'm pretty sure you removed all doubt from mind as to your alignment. Either that or you're experienced scum? I don't know your history on the forum so I don't really know that. Whatever if you are scum then gg. I realized just now I'm going to have to vote before the end of the day because I won't be around at deadline and my trouble is based on posting alone it doesn't seem to make sense that Vivax is scum. I know it's probably the more correct move to hit Vivax before Sent but lynching based on blue role stuff hasn't done us great thus far this game. I know what I did, and I RBed Sent last night, there was no NK. His posting has been worse than godawful for most of the game. I'm going to take a gamble here. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel My first game on TL was a scum game, and it had to be remade before 48 hours had passed. Aside from that, I don't actually have any experience being mafia. Fun fact about that game: I think it's actually the earliest that I've ever made a case on anyone. | ||
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