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On May 26 2013 04:05 kaoxx wrote:


Id really like to run more Urban Evolutions because they are awesome, but in most of my games they are only playable when i have 7+ lands to avoid tapping out. A lot of times it is just stuck in my hand, with no good opportunity to play them so I decided it down to a 1-of.

Tested the Trees out today on cockatrice. That 13 toughness butt really does so much work against red. I will probably put x2 in the sideboard over a removal and a duress.

edit: Will most likely be taking the 1st list to game day in ~12 hrs, but I'd love to see your list/opinions before then haha.

On May 26 2013 11:11 Judicator wrote:


This is what I am playing right now:

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About Urban, I don't care most of the time (except against Jund) if I tap out for Evolution, because Aetherling lines are very strong.

Deadbridge I haven't tested yet, but it seems decent in grindy match ups. Cage/Shaman is there for Reanimator and UWR. Rift is in there against tokens or GW. Charm is great. Those are the cards that I find myself boarding in the most for Tamiyos and Syncopates along with some number of Think Twices.

I think Plasma Capture is overrated and I think 3 Forbidden Alchemy is too much, you aren't getting real value out of the 3 in the grave. 3 Snaps is pointless, I went from 2 to 1 and sometimes I board out the last one. You play Farseek but only have Plasma Capture to show for it on 4, pretty irrelevant. I rather take a more proactive approach rather than trying to play defensive; if you take those lines then you might as well be playing Bant where you have Sphinx's as a much better end-game than creature based stuff right now.

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Also for anyone passing judgement on rulings questions, know your shit. Don't be assuming that you know it, cite your logic and if possible cite your sources if you can't provide a decent explanation.

I can't stand people who give out incorrect information, because it affects your lines.

On May 26 2013 15:10 Nub4ever wrote:
So, how much do you guys draft, perhaps some thoughts to share on the format? :3 Did some drafts at my LGS, I'm far from what would be considered a good drafter, I'm decent at best. In any case, I've only drafted it a few times but what i feel sorta works is just, as DGM seems to have lots of silly powerful cards, armed//dangerous literally steals games Helix is also nuts etc., decide at least 1 color / guild in the DGM pack through your first few picks, and then pick up fixing to potentially play any potential splashes or if your bomb / opening card is a multicolored card.

From there just pick the good shit that goes with your fixing, if you can make it 2 color with as little of a splash as possible. I drafted a pretty sweet naya deck today, got a little lucky and got passed like a somewhat late sunhome and got 2 centaur healers. I was mostly boros w/ a fairly heavy green portion beyond even splash. I actually didn't get mana or color screwed once with 3 gates and a little bit of mathy mana basing.

On May 26 2013 14:48 Judicator wrote:
I especially don't like Charm against Voice. Verdict is the only reason. Sphinx is worse than Aetherling with you trying to dodge Sin Collectors.

The Wurm is meh to me right now. It's certainly good, but nothing game breaking.

Decay's for the RG aggro match up as there really isn't anything better on the draw at 2 in any color.

Devour Flesh is for the Bant auras deck, but that could be a Far/Away. As for Devour Flesh not in any sideboard, that's a pretty inaccurate representation of that card.

As for the comment about White's mana efficiency, I question that. I would argue the debate is up to whether you want to casting Augur on turn 2 or Farseek. Or better yet, do you want to be casting Sphinx or Aetherling? White just doesn't cut it for me any more outside of Verdict and Voice makes the deck awkward. If the meta was smaller, then I can buy into White, but Azorious Charm is pretty bad right now as tempo.

Also notice I am not casting Gaze as a Wrath (or I would be doing 4-ofs), but rather as a Deeds.

On May 26 2013 17:29 bobbob wrote:


What are the matchups where you are even getting to cast it as a Deed? Jund and tokens are the only ones that come to mind. Vs Aggro it's a bit slow due to the fact that you don't play it turn 3, sit on it turn 4 the way that Deed was good. Control shouldn't care much that you deed, unless they have an answer, tapping out. What is Gaze removing that Verdict does not, or what is Verdict removing that Gaze does not? Tusk seems like the only card, but is losing your Tusk that bad in the matchups that you want to be slamming Verdict?

Isn't Think Twice just as awkward against Voice as Azorius Charm? I guess you board Think Twice out vs Voice, Charm works vs the token from Voice after the Verdict. Abrupt Decay isn't a great solution to the Voice either, if used as an instant it still gives 2 tokens, when Charm gives 1, even though the Voice comes back. What threats are your opponents playing that you can't answer except with Azorius Charm? It's only bad if they have more dudes than just Voice, and at that point you want a sweeper anyways, so if you really have to dig for one, Charm still digs.

Farseek is also way better than Augur, that's probably the reason you are playing Green over Red. It's not like going White requires Augur over the best 2 drop in the format.

You can just not play Sphinx, but it's still worth considering as a card, even in the SB.

Wurm is really just a filler, I notice your list has no 4 drops off of Farseek aside from Jace, I suppose you generally Putrefy off of casting a Farseek. Not game breaking, but fills a good role, and a hole.

I have to admit that having B gives you a better reanimator matchup due to actual hard removal (Although you get access to RIP).
I see your deck basically dying to a resolved Geist as is, options are really to Gaze it, or race with Aetherling, both of which you will have trouble forcing through any sort of countermagic.

Voice is great out of the board, since the decks you bring it against won't have the early defense (Augur is the most likely problem with it, but that means they are both sitting there, and Voice is going to give you a card, Augur may not.), just like your deck, so hurting their draw/countering abilities and applying the beats earlier puts pressure on them, rather than waiting to Drownyard and such.

EDIT: I also forgot that Resto Angel is a card that can just be played as a 3/4 Flash for 4, although Advent is probably better.


As for DGM drafting, if you don't open something insane, the general rules for signaling are get into a Gatecrash guild and cut it, as it sends a clear signal to the guy to your left. Tithe Drinker/Beetleform Mage/Druid/Firstblade are the commons to look for.

On May 26 2013 22:59 spinesheath wrote:
I'm pretty sure I heard from multiple sources that cutting an RTR guild is better than cutting a GTC guild because RTR comes last.

On May 26 2013 22:59 spinesheath wrote:
I'm pretty sure I heard from multiple sources that cutting an RTR guild is better than cutting a GTC guild because RTR comes last.